Posts by Jerry King11

The universe is infinite, which means every single point serves as its own center. In that sense, we are the center of our own worlds, yet we're just one tiny speck in an endless sequence of centers... 😍

silvereagle6 said:If you feel like sharing, I'd love to hear your take. How exactly can the body be perceived as an illusion?
To me, it’s just physical matter—I honestly struggle to wrap my head around seeing it any other way.🤷

nimbleheron3 said:Haha, let's put that theory to the test. If the soul—or the mind, or whatever label we use for our non-material essence—is what projects our physical body, which in turn projects the world around us, then we basically take that mental image as reality. Why wouldn't we? If I feel the texture of my keyboard under my fingers right now, then the "keyboard" definitely exists. But if the body is just a projection of the mind, it could theoretically take any shape the mind imagines—which would change the world itself. In principle, matter doesn't exist. It sounds absurd, maybe, but it certainly gives you something to chew on.

They say the body is mostly just energy anyway. Think about it: mass is concentrated in that tiny atomic nucleus, which accounts for 99.98% of an atom's mass while occupying a radius that's basically one hundred-thousandth of the total atom. Most of what we call "substance" is just vast, empty space between the nucleus and the electrons. Those electrons zip around the nucleus at near light speed, and it's really just that constant motion that makes a body feel solid. If you look at it through that lens, matter is practically non-existent—it's almost entirely energy. Something like that, at least.

Tyler Baker6 said:You sleeping?!
🙂
Wake up!

🙂 Oops!

Someone once said that those who are awake share one common world, while those who sleep are all trapped in their own private realities. 🥳

Sean Cruz said:

Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

Cleaned this up a bit; I used to be able to recite that part of the Shakespearean Storm from memory 🙂, but that was a long time ago...

My computer is acting up tonight; I can't seem to get through to Alice... or the rabbit...

Sean Cruz said:😁

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWLQO...eature=related

Tyler Baker6 said:😁
A massive shift is right around the corner. And I'm not just talking about the planet, the government, or even time itself,
but the entire economy too. You've been summoned. It's time to wake up!🙂

Wake up. Just follow the white rabbit... who knows what Alice was hiding on the other side of the mirror

Make your choice.

This whole world is nothing more than an illusion. Our game is finished; we were merely souls that have now dissolved into refractive light. Much like the phantom image of a mirage, one day the skyscrapers and palaces, the grand cathedrals, and even this giant orb we call Earth—with everything upon it—will vanish. We are made of the very substance that conjures visions, and our brief little lives are surrounded by nothing but a dream... 🙂

It’s all just a fabrication. Wake up. You’re nothing more than a cog in the machine... 🙂

We wake one another from our dreams!

I just can't help myself—did you guys catch that headline? Wake up!!!

On Agartha from the book King of the World by Ren Guenona:

Based on the testimony of all consenting traditions, it’s easy to conclude that there exists a single "Holy Land"—a spiritual center to which all other centers are subject. This "Holy Land" is also the "land of the saints," the "land of the blessed," the "land of the living," and the "land of immortality." All these terms are synonymous, and one should probably add the descriptor "pure land" that Plato uses specifically to describe the "abode of the blessed." Usually, this abode is located within the "invisible world," but if we actually want to grasp what this means, we shouldn't forget the "spiritual hierarchies" mentioned by all traditions, which essentially represent various initiatory stages.

Here is another excerpt from the book:

... We won't dwell further on the meaning of those two priesthoods here; we will simply include some words from Saint Paul: "Here (in the Levitical priesthood) mortals receive a tenth, but there, one receives it for him who is testified to live forever." That "living man" is Melchizedek; he is the Manu who remains "eternal" (le olam in Hebrew), meaning for the entire duration of his cycle (manvantara) or the world over which he specifically reigns. He is "without genealogy" because his origin is "non-human," as he is the prototype of man himself. He is indeed "akin to the Son of God" because, through the Law he brings, he serves as the expression and image of the divine Word for this world.

Honestly, you really ought to read the whole booklet. Presented in snippets like this, it's probably a bit confusing since he’s pulling from so many different traditions... Regardless, I find myself believing in the power of the "invisible"—in a divine order that possesses the capacity to overcome the forces of Darkness at any given moment. And I suspect even the "little guy" with his "small thoughts" can make an impact. Now, whether WikiLeaks is actually an extension of Melchizedek's reach... that's a question.

dustyskipper3 said:It’s interesting... I know larger groups have meditated for peace here in the States too. But I guess I’m not entirely sure if prayer—you know, addressing some transcendental being, sometimes even with a specific request in mind—can really be equated to meditation. Meditation doesn't involve any kind of address or asking for things; it's just this general longing for harmony and peace, I suppose. I just know the Roman Catholic Church isn't exactly fond of meditation or yoga; to them, those kinds of things are practically devilry. Yet, what they do themselves and who they choose to back is apparently perfectly fine in their eyes. There was even a claim that Vatican City once stated: "If Bill Clinton is a thief, then so is Pope Benedict XVI".😲😲😲

I'm also curious about the actual meaning behind the word "synarchy" used in this piece regarding Agartha.

Quote : When The Anarchy which exists in Our World is replaced by The Synarchy

Is what they are doing with WikiLeaks an introduction to anarchy, or is it leading toward synarchy, which some people interpret as a cryptocracy—you know, that rule by people operating from the shadows?

There is such a thing as Christian meditation, which is actually quite similar to Eastern practices; the goal is to achieve unity with God through a contemplative state rather than just asking for things...

Synergy implies the rule of the spiritually superior, the enlightened... I'm not sure if what's happening with WikiLeaks is intended to establish a caste of brahmins...

And I don't see Agartha as a physical location—that feels a bit too materialistic to me. It’s more of a symbol. René Guénon also rejected that materialist view, arguing instead that it represents a communion of spirit, the collective spiritual strength of certain people, rather than a specific geographic spot where they all live...

dustyskipper3 said:Prayer is perhaps the final line of defense for the common man against various Rockefellers, the Trilateral Commission, and those shadowy figures operating behind the scenes. Their project seems to involve creating some kind of globally structured pyramidal state—a new world order, I guess. This project requires them to delay their own gratification, so it’s likely led by people with quite high emotional intelligence, or perhaps they simply lack emotion entirely. On the other hand, this whole scheme is non-transparent, whereas a government is supposed to function democratically and openly. In that sense, it feels similar to organized crime, and these "people in the shadows" often seem to use underworld elements when they need to get dirty work done. This way, we have something non-transparent influencing something that is meant to be transparent, which makes us feel like the state is oppressing us through its laws and policies, even though we, as citizens, should have decisive influence over them rather than these lobbies from the Darkness. Since the government clearly isn't succeeding in curbing these opaque influences through democratic means, we see these hacktivists emerging from the shadows too, seeking an immediate response to power centers that also operate from the shadows—essentially trying to wipe their information off the web via DDoS attacks.

But where does prayer fit into all this? Well, I suppose it would be directed toward God Himself, if He exists, asking Him to thwart the plans of these power centers and shadow figures through transcendent—meaning non-transparent and delayed—intervention. From what I've experienced, prayer can't do that. It doesn't seem to affect them. There is that saying, I think, that "God's power does not pray." But it might affect those people who aren't consumed by power and who still hold onto small grains of goodness. Those types of people still hold real power in the world simply through their sheer numbers, though they aren't organized like hacktivists or shadow power centers. The question is, how do you reach these people and turn them toward your cause? And, of course, is it even possible today to reach them without the internet or money, or without the mediation of the media and material resources? Of course, that assumes you actually believe in the power of prayer and that divine providence works in this world, since there isn't any solid proof that it does or that you will achieve anything through it. Our former President believed in the power of the media and the shadow players, tying his fate to them. Personally, I even prayed and lit a candle at Stone Gate, hoping he and Milan Bandić would just go to hell and lose their power, but it looks like that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the global financial crisis. So, if we believe in the delayed power of prayer, or providence, then the global economic crisis is the response to the non-transparent actions of various "people in the shadows" who, through their power centers, began trying to enslave the world. That is, of course, not counting that quiet mass of indifferent people—those who never show up to vote, never take out loans, and never even surf the internet, but just sit quietly in their homes thinking their own thoughts about all this nonsense.

There is a school of thought suggesting that there are people who remain entirely off the radar, influencing the world solely through the strength of their thoughts from within their private sanctuaries. Some argue there aren't enough of these positive souls to overcome the forces of Darkness and prevent everything from going to hell... Agartha is often mentioned in this context—not as a physical location, but as the spiritual epicenter of such people. René Guénon explores similar themes in his book King of the World, as does Hamvas in his little book Wonderful Journey of Joachim Olbrin, when discussing the gardener from the South... Furthermore, there have been studies suggesting that when larger groups of people pray or meditate together, it actually influences the course of events. So, I do believe it's possible to influence reality in that way...

It’s a safe bet that both the Holy Spirit and the devil are working through the internet; it all just depends on what you're open to receiving. 😁

A few pages later, from that same book:

That description following the passage about matter awakening and then forgetting itself—about repetition and the darkness outside—isn't particularly hard to wrap your head around. The image is vivid: a person surfaces, but they're so dazed, their soul so lethargic, dull, and blind, that they inevitably sink back down. Where to? Back into that external darkness. Then comes the question: "When does a person surface and actually stay up?" The answer is: "That person surfaces because they possess a healthy sense of self, a sense of trust, a sense of shame, a moral compass, a drive to act, and an ability to perceive. Their trust doesn't fluctuate; it stays constant. That sense of shame, their morality, their drive, and their perception—none of it ebbs or flows; it remains steady. That is how a person surfaces and manages to stay above.
They don't necessarily increase the soul's alertness, but they preserve it so they don't drown in the current all over again.

Gregory Jackson said:Oh, not at all, I mean, I've sort of circled around her work a few times, I guess, but I always end up grabbing something else that focuses more on practical spirituality. I don't really have the bandwidth to sit around analyzing different spiritual movements—well, specifically her stuff—since, you know, I'm much more into the actual practice part, and I figure we can leave the deep academic analysis to the scientists and professors out there. But hey, if you've got a specific quote that hits the mark, maybe I'll feel like I actually saved some time reading it 🙂

Alright, picking up where I left off with the quotes: 🙂

Then comes the first stage of vidya—moving toward wakefulness. Following the three stages of stupor—deep sleep, dreaming, and waking—comes the fourth level (turiyam). This is the "awakened dreamer," the buddhi. This is the mahatma—the great soul—the highest state a soul can achieve. This true seeing, this true knowledge, isn't vidjna, which is merely material or mental knowledge, but rather vidya, which is pure awareness.

The first sign of this awakening is when a vague doubt begins to surface within a person: the idea that maya, or the sensory world, is nothing more than an illusion—as Plato puts it. It’s non-existent. The physical world is an illusion born from a lethargy shared by all living people. Once someone begins to perceive beyond the senses, they start to sense something *meta physika*, something beyond nature. That metaphysical touch is the first step toward true wakefulness.

Bela Hamvas, Scientia Sacra

P.S. For what it's worth, I think the whole of Bela Hamvas is worth reading. His insights evolved over time, so he’s prone to being contradictory in his own way (regardless of the specific passage quoted here).

Gregory Jackson said:Haha, man, I've had that book sitting on my shelf for years and I haven't even cracked it open yet. Honestly, maybe just drop a few more quotes here so I can officially decide never to read it at all! 🙂

So, are you concluding it isn't worth the read? 😕

In The Bible, there’s this idea that a true master defines knowledge as something distinct from actual awareness. There is a specific term used for this kind of information—let's call it accumulated knowledge. It isn't the same as true insight. This type of knowledge is just stuff you can collect and pile up. The opposite is ignorance. The text puts it bluntly: "The ignorant wander in blind darkness, but those who pile knowledge upon knowledge dwell in an even thicker gloom."

Whether we are talking about mere data or simple ignorance, both are just different flavors of sleepwalking. Neither helps you actually see reality for what it is. In fact, both fall short. The ignorant are already stumbling through the dark, mostly because they're already lost. They’re the students who are essentially asleep at the wheel, convinced their time hasn't come yet. At least they still have a shred of hope. They might take a hit or stumble hard enough to finally open their eyes. But the truly dangerous ones—those trapped in an even deeper kind of bondage—are the ones obsessively stacking facts on top of facts. That kind of accumulation is the most dangerous way to sleep. If you're just increasing the volume of information without improving the clarity of your vision, you aren't gaining insight; you're just collecting more weight. It’s ultimately useless and quite risky. A soul can get lost in its own library much more permanently than it can in simple ignorance.

Ralph Waldo Emerson, Sacred Science

Emily Dickinson

CESARIĆ POEM ABOUT DEATH

Autumn will arrive without heavy branches,
without rain, without sorrow, or wine to pour.
Look, it won't have any days to offer:
It will possess only a single night!

Time will drag a black winter toward us,
but that winter's snow will never fall.
The spring sun will pull at the earth,
but it won't shine or bloom at all!

Just like winter and summer, it will pass,
and empty years will flow by just the same.
And the sun will never break through to you—
leaving you with nothing left to say!

Emily Dickinson

Because I could not death stop

Because I could not death stop.
She kindly stopped for me;
In a carriage, alongside Immortality,
The two of us were alone.

We drove slowly, Death is never in a rush,
And I had to say my goodbyes
To both work and leisure.
Simply out of her courtesy.

We passed a school where children
Were playing and wrestling;
We passed fields of swaying grain,
We passed the setting sun.

Or rather, it passed beside us:
The dew trembling in the shade.
For my dress was thin and light,
With a sheer shawl of tulle.

We paused before a house
- Swollen as if by the earth itself -
Hardly visible, since its
Roof was barely a hum.

Centuries have passed since then
But they feel shorter now, I suppose,
Except for the day I realized the horses
Are headed toward eternity.

neonscout5 said:When a person’s intention is absolute, nothing is off the table—not even grappling with those deep, mystical koans like: Who am I? Or rather, what am I?

Once that realization hits, all the theories, dogmas, and the heavy baggage of civilization just... evaporate. They don't matter anymore. All that’s left is a raw kind of knowledge, something you feel with your entire being.
There’s really no point in talking about it, or heaven forbid, trying to debate or convince someone else once you've seen it for yourself. The best part? This kind of insight is available to anyone willing to pursue it with true purpose.

True. We can philosophize all we want, but it’s just empty intellectualizing if we don't apply it to real life—and to how we treat the people around us. In fact, "insight" itself can be just another form of mental greed. Didn't even Faust sell his soul to the devil just for the sake of knowledge (or maybe I'm remembering that wrong... it was a long time ago)?

I agree that wisdom only arrives once you've had that firsthand experience (and put it into practice), because raw information isn't enough; that's when the "constructs" finally fall away. Whether it's possible for everyone, I couldn't say. But I'll stand by the idea that it requires honest intention—a genuine hunger for truth and right action—combined with an open mind and a large heart.

ironcyclist752 said:😕

But I wonder, what if God is merely a projection of the human mind?

And just me and humanity being the only reality? I wouldn't go that far.