Bad Boys

Losing on the road isn't the issue; showing up is what matters. Respect to the guys for making the trip...

We've been through this endless online bickering a thousand times already... just ignore all the keyboard warriors

The main thing is getting them back home to Chicago

Jesse Campbell said:Look, if it weren't for all this repression and Jerry Maguire (I've been warning about the mafia's ties to the crackdown since 2003, and calling Jerry Maguire the biggest evil since '94), none of this would be happening.

The game wouldn't have been banned for the fans. We probably would've sent five or ten times more people down there. Those Cigic guys, who always pick their battles, would still be out there stealing hats in Belgrade, and we would've swept those Greek losers off the floor easily.

It’s the same deal with Malta, too. Now the mafia has even banned traveling with the supporters' group, so some local Gravedigger peasants are just out beating people up. If there wasn't a ban, there would've been a couple dozen people there, and those guys would be hiding in a basement.

Gypsies or Greeks aren't our problem. Our problem is Jerry Maguire and his mafia. And what have we actually done lately to get rid of them? Nothing. It fell to the fourth plan.

Support for our boys—props to them for being brave—but maybe we should put some of that determination and guts into actually cleaning up this mess. There'll always be time for this stuff.

Chill out, man. You're not Walter defending Boston!
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Based on these photos, the Jerry Maguire crowd (along with Gate 7 and the regular Boys...) are acting like they totally crushed the Delia fans...

http://s13.postimg.org/befqnlayv/121...93317790_n.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/30ju4ud.jpg

If you watch the video, there were only about 70 of them, and the Olijev group was right there with them, so I don't see how anyone can claim credit for this as a win for the Delia fans.

If they had actually been completely overwhelmed, people would just be saying they weren't even there and that it was only the Olijev group present, which feels like some typical Mexican tactics...

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Larry Wells2 said:Chill out, man. You're acting like you're defending Chicago against Walter!
🙂🙂 🙂

Paid mercenary, who asked you anyway?

Enough with dragging these topics through the forums. Those who were there know what happened, and those who weren't—those who haven't even caught a whiff of the action—don't need to know, nor do they deserve to. Take a good look in the mirror and head straight for Fifth Avenue.

Jesse Campbell;56110292 said:You paid mercenary, why the hell are you even asking?

Just another Soros shill!

Matthew Murphy91 said:Man, what a pathetic apology. Calling them "a little rowdy" is a massive understatement, but they're too proud to own up to it.
They lost, they got beat up—Lord help us. That’s just part of the game when you live in the supporter scene. Maybe tomorrow they’ll be the ones handing out the beatings, just like they used to.

BBB is absolutely in the gutter right now. A few years back they were totally screwed, and honestly, it might happen again soon. Right now, those guys can't even hold a candle to the Delia in any way, shape, or form. It’s nothing to be ashamed of.
In a few years, maybe they'll get back to their former glory.

Let me guess, you're just some lowlife trash who crawled over here to gloat about some victory? Were you dancing in the streets back in '92 when things went south in Boston? At least we cleaned house; you lot still can't even make it past the outskirts. So watch your mouth before you celebrate too hard, buddy.

And don't even worry about judging who's the bigger or stronger group—you definitely aren't the one to be deciding that on this forum.

Jesse Campbell said:Franjo Tuđman kicked your boss Jerry Maguire out of the club because he found out the guy was just one of Jakov Blažević’s cronies and total undercover filth. Plus, Franjo didn't have any patience for vulgar lowlifes and thugs.

But that's not even the point right now. You're the only one here missing the mark with that slug-level intelligence of yours. Someone please just ban this idiot.

This isn't the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, everyone's allowed to have an opinion here.

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Aaron Sanchez422 said:Let me guess, you're just some lowlife looking to gloat over a victory by those thugs? Were you cheering back in '92 when they were tearing through Boston? At least we cleared them out; for you guys, they’re still hovering over the skyline. You better watch who you're celebrating with, buddy.

And don't even worry about who the bigger or stronger group is. There's no way someone like you would be the one to judge this forum anyway.

Is that your way of justifying the loss you took against the Delija today?

Is it really that hard to just admit you got beat?
Honestly, I feel bad for both sides—your joke of a group and the Delija.
I'm just being objective: you guys got absolutely crushed today. In the world of supporters, you're the laughingstock right now.
That said, RESPECT to every single guy who made the trip down there.
As for you internet experts and "objective" observers, you can go wave goodbye. 🙂

Matthew Murphy91 said:Are you actually trying to justify the defeat you took today from the Delija?

Is it really that hard to just admit you lost?
Honestly, I feel bad for both your joke of a group and the Delija.
Being objective here—you guys got absolutely rolled today. In the world of supporters, you’re the laughingstock right now.
That said, respect to every single guy who headed down there.
As for you internet experts and "objective" types, go wave at the wind. 🙂

Isn't it more ridiculous that a group whose team doesn't even play in this country travels all this way to fight people they could have easily faced much closer to home? Or maybe it's just funny seeing someone from another country show up to lead your cheering in the stands?

I don't know what you're talking about—you watched thirty seconds of footage just like the rest of us, and yet you're preaching. For all I know, based on that clip, it looks like a quick scuffle before everyone runs off. I'm just saying, the video clearly doesn't show the full picture, so none of us truly know what went down.

It would be better to stick to the facts, which are these: the Boys showed up in Pyre despite facing a level of repression that neither the Delija nor Gate 7 ever deals with. Neither the Delija nor Gate 7 traveled to Chicago. The Boys didn't hide in Pyre, which is basically the ninth circle of hell for visiting fans. Delija and Gate 7 weren't in Chicago. Anyone can lose a street fight; it's irrelevant, and nobody ever gained or lost respect over a single alleyway scrap. Besides, the respect the Boys command is exactly why the Delija traveled to Pyre, and the respect they have for the Boys is why they stayed home when it was time to come to Chicago. And keep in mind, these are the Boys, dealing with all their own domestic issues, yet they still showed up and stepped up. Honestly, the bragging about one fight doesn't surprise me. It's like if I landed a lucky punch on Tyson after he beat my ass twenty times before and twenty times after.

Matthew Murphy91 said:Are you really trying to frame today's loss to the Delija as some kind of moral victory?

Is it truly that difficult for you to just admit that you were defeated?
I feel for both your ridiculous group and the Delija.
Speaking purely objectively, they completely dominated you today, and in the world of supporters, you are being mocked.
That said, I have respect for every single guy who made the trip down there.
As for all you internet experts and "objective" types, you can keep waving your hands. 🙂

Hey clown, here are some photos of the crew that jumped out with the oil guys in a three-on-one situation using knives...

Just kids...

http://wcdn.gazzetta.gr/sites/defaul...?itok=NPTO0wrN

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDfzIUWUAE6Ocs.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTEAiVOWEAIDNLs.jpg

And honestly, kudos to those kids. Your lot takes photos five days before the game just to pretend they were actually in Chicago on match day. I highly doubt any serious organization would stoop to such nonsense.

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Ronald Bennett30 said:Isn't it actually kind of ridiculous when a group whose team doesn't even play in this country travels all this way just to clash with people they could have easily faced much closer to home? Or isn't it a bit absurd when a crowd is led by someone who traveled in from another country just to lead the chanting in the stands?

The Delia guys down there didn't show up because of BBB. Delia and Gate 7 are on great terms, and it’s totally normal for Delia to travel with them to see Olympiacos games in Greece or abroad, just like Gate 7 travels to Mexico. There are millions of clips on YouTube if you actually bother to look.

Ronald Bennett30 said:It’s better to just stick to the facts, and the facts are these: the Boys showed up in Pyre despite facing a level of repression that neither Delia nor Gate 7 ever had to deal with. Neither Delia nor Gate 7 made the trip to Chicago. The Boys didn't hide in Pyre, which is basically described as the ninth circle of hell for visiting fans. Delia and Gate 7 weren't in Chicago. Anyone can lose a scrap; honestly, it doesn't matter, and losing a fight has never been how anyone earns or loses respect anywhere. Besides, the respect the Boys command is exactly what drew Delia to Pyre, and the respect they feel for the Boys is why they stayed home instead of coming to Chicago. And keep in mind, these Boys are already battered by all their local issues, yet they still showed up and stepped up. Honestly, I’m not even surprised there's all this boasting about a single fight. It’s like if I managed to land a lucky punch on Tyson after he beat my ass twenty times before and twenty times after.

Why on earth would Delia and Gate 7 be in Chicago when it was already agreed there wouldn't be any visiting fans in the stands? The truth is, Delia wasn't in Chicago, and BBB wasn't in Belgrade—it was because they met on neutral ground. And on that neutral ground, you guys were the ones who came out on the losing end, not us. That is the reality of a neutral site.

I don't even want to comment on the situation because there are just too many inconsistencies. If you weren't there, you should probably listen to all the different stories and draw your own conclusions about what happened. If knives were involved, that's one thing, but if there were no knives—which some people claim—and you just got your asses kicked, then it’s honestly pathetic that you're making up stories about knives flashing or being outnumbered just to justify getting wrecked. What's the harm in just admitting you lost on neutral ground?

Haha, now they’ve started cracking jokes too? Like, seriously? If you guys actually think the Pyre and Greece are "neutral ground," then fine, have it your way. You're delusional.

Look, let’s get one thing straight: Dinamo and Hajduk aren't "brother clubs." There is a massive, canyon-sized difference between having some private backroom connections with certain groups—which happens all the time, let's be real—and having an actual, official brotherhood. You can't even put them in the same sentence. You saw exactly what was happening on the streets of Athens these past few days. You had to show up and watch the backs of your brothers, and trust me, they’ll do the exact same for you when the chips are down. It’s simple math. When you know you've got that kind of backup, you don't hesitate. You walk into a fight feeling twice as strong and ten times braver because you aren't standing alone. Whether you want to admit it or not, that psychological edge changes everything when the whistle blows.

Look, Greece and Russia are basically your home turf, and you know exactly why that is. You also know damn well why none of you showed up to join Torcida when they were playing AEK in Athens. It wasn't because you aren't brothers with those fans. No way. It’s because Torcida rolls up in organized convoys—we're talking dozens of buses—and if you guys had shown up, you would've gotten absolutely wrecked, and your "brothers" wouldn't have been spared either. Honestly, the myth-making coming from your side is ridiculous. You knew perfectly well the only way you could show up now is... Total chaos when those fascist thugs showed up. Just a complete mess. Look, you actually pulled it off. If this had been an organized trip—you know, without banning our club's fans—there would’ve been at least 800 or 1,000 people showing up from Chicago and all over the US. It wouldn't even matter how many, because you guys wouldn't have dared to even breathe in the direction of our buses filled with Dinamo fans. You wouldn't be playing tough now, hunting us down at airports and wherever else, when honestly, you wouldn't even have needed to look for us—it would've been the other way around! You wouldn't have even thought about risking a massive crackdown because you don't even have enough muscle to handle a larger group. Let's be real: 200 Delia isn't nearly enough to pull off anything successful against that many rival fans. The only way you could catch a small group of 30 or 40 randoms off guard was by doing exactly what you did here. But hey, I guess that works when you head out on unorganized trips, kind of like how the Boys showed up. Not that you guys would ever travel to America—actually, you barely go anywhere. Oh, how brave those "brave" gravediggers were back in that small town during the handball tournament. They showed up when nobody expected them, right in the middle of a place crawling with those "brotherhood and unity" types. And don't even try to act like you don't know it.

I can't believe I'm even watching this right now. Honestly, my eyes are actually hurting. It’s just one of those things where you sit there, staring at the screen, wondering how we even got here as a society. Total madness. Just absolute, unadulterated chaos. It reminds me of that one time back in Chicago when everything just went south all at once—you know, that feeling when you realize the whole plan is falling apart and there's nothing you can do but watch the train wreck happen in slow motion? Yeah, that. Exactly that. Anyway, what do you guys think? Is it just me, or is this getting out of hand?.

Honestly, I’ve got a better video than that "the boys left me" crap. It's called... The guys are totally stepping on their own toes. 🤣

Matthew Murphy91, The only thing that’s actually funny about this whole mess is that the guy who basically left his own people out to dry—left his entire nation hanging on the vine—is now standing there lecturing us about running away. He’s out here making jokes about fleeing, too. You know exactly who I’m talking about, right? If you don't get the sarcasm, honestly, that's on you. Your loss.

Honestly, Ronald Bennett30 laid everything out with surgical precision, so there’s really nothing left to say. This thread needs to be locked down already. I'm just sitting here hoping the mods wake up sometime today and finally pull the trigger on it.

FAIR PLAY!! 😁 HAHA.

Just wanted to check in with one of the moderators—can't remember which one specifically—because I actually got a warning for getting too heated about the Republican Party or the Democratic Party or whatever. It makes me wonder why those hateful trolls aren't banned for constantly trashing our forum, or even that guy posted above who’s dropped over a thousand posts already. Honestly, screw them.

Look, this is a general discussion forum, not some hardcore sports message board—you can't just go pointing fingers at people and demanding they get banned. If you happen to disagree with what someone else is typing, that’s hardly grounds for an admin to step in...

Kevin Gray86 said:Look, this is just a general discussion forum, not some hardcore fan site where you can just point fingers and demand someone gets banned. If you don't like what someone else is typing, that’s on you—not a reason to call for a ban.

Oh, give me a break. I literally just explained exactly why I got flagged in the message right above.

Now everyone from the wrong side of the border is going to run wild on this forum. That's honestly why things are such a mess here; everyone just does whatever they want and plays by their own rules.

Don't try to lecture me about morality, because I'm definitely not interested in hearing it!

Aaron Sanchez422 said:It’s funny how they’ve started making up excuses now, claiming it’s a neutral site; if you honestly think Piraeus and Greece count as neutral ground, then I guess we're all just delusional.

Fine then, by that logic, Athens is basically in Mexico.

Aaron Sanchez422 said:The reason you didn't travel with Torcida when they were playing away in Athens against AEK isn't because you aren't brothers with the AEK fans; it's because Torcida travels in such massive, organized groups—with dozens of buses—that if you had shown up, they would have absolutely crushed you, and your AEK buddies along with you.

AEK? If he actually understood the nature of our relationship with AEK supporters, he wouldn't be talking such nonsense. I've already mentioned that we only ever go to Olympiacos matches because we maintain good relations with them (and they visit us here). We never went to AEK games, so there was never any point in going, even back when they played Hajduk. Similarly, people used to travel to Piraeus in the past, and they still do now when Dinamo is playing away. Most of the supporter groups in Greece, aside from Gat 7, are completely fired up against us. AEK, Olympiacos, PAOK, Aris—they are all against us.

mellowhawk5 said:Give me a break. I just laid out the exact reason why I caught a warning myself.

Now the trolls are going to flood this forum with whatever nonsense they want. That’s why things are such a mess here—everyone just talks trash whenever it suits them...

Don't try to lecture me on morality—I promise you, I can be much worse than you think.

As long as they aren't breaking the rules, they can say what they want. You got banned because you were being insulting, and I got banned for the same thing. If you can't stand what people are posting, just use the ignore button and move on...