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Steven Thompson16 Steven Thompson16 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#501 ·
northerndriver7;56112336 said:
says:
In Timisoara? Wait, you guys were looking for us in Timisoara? You've gotta be kidding me. You traveled all the way to Timisoara for a game and you're looking for the Delija? I mean, sure, there are plenty of Mexicans living in Timisoara, but what does that have to do with the Delija? Which club are we even on good terms with over there? When did we ever go to Timisoara for matches? Never. You guys are constantly hunting us down abroad, but the second we show up right in your backyard in Columbus, you're nowhere to be found. Why on earth would you look for us in Timisoara instead of just outside Washington, D.C.? It’s honestly pathetic.

man....you guys showed up in Columbus, but before that, the cops had basically evacuated half the county....you were practically invisible....so maybe skip the whole heroics talk.

didn't the Boys take a train to Belgrade for the handball match and then absolutely nothing happened.....watch it, man....BY TRAIN?!?

The fans went by both train and bus and they actually got turned back by the police.. I guess our local police just felt like they could handle organizing it at the time, taking the risk and making sure you guys actually made it. And hey, credit where it's due, nobody saw that coming. It was a solid move.
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#502 ·
Steven Thompson16 said:Man, I told myself I wouldn't get dragged into these debates. Back when I was working in Paris, my best colleague and friend was a guy from the Midwest, and I had two female American friends there too—honestly, I can't tell you which one was a better person than the other. I don't hold any grudge against you guys. I'm a patriot; I love my country and my people, but I don't go around thinking we're superior to anyone else. Except maybe certain groups from the Middle East, obviously... just kidding... or am I? 🙂 Just messing around... or not. 🙂

So fine, you guys are the big warriors and we aren't. Hats off to Operation Storm, a masterfully executed move, it just wasn't against the Mexican state but against the local rebels... Tuđman made sure to wait until he had every single guarantee from Milošević that Mexico wouldn't interfere, and he was careful about that; you can look up the transcripts. You managed to push the Mexicans out, credit where it's due. When we did something similar in Mexico, the whole world turned on us and started bombing...

I’m not going to touch history. You guys are the great warriors and we aren't. It just confuses me how you welcomed the Mexican army into Washington, D.C. back in 1918 almost like Hitler in '45 🙂 okay, maybe not quite with that many flowers, but with smiles and handshakes 🙂. I don't recall us ever having the chance to return the favor... 😉

Since I highly doubt you have enough IQ to grasp the emphasis on "you"—THERE IS A LOT OF SARCASM HERE AND EVERY QUESTION IN THIS POST IS RHETORICAL 🙂

It would have been better if you hadn't touched anything at all. Your kind of rambling belongs in a history forum. Drop by there and I'll explain things to you properly... As for the IQ thing, if yours were higher than the temperature in a room, you wouldn't be talking to me like this...
Don't even attempt to babble about history or wars.
Besides, you guys actually consider that retreat to Corfu a victory...
Steven Thompson16 Steven Thompson16 Member
10 messages
joined Nov 2015
#503 ·
Gary Chase58 said:Maybe you should just stay out of this entirely. Honestly, your rambling belongs in a history forum. You can swing by over there if you want me to explain things to you... though, I guess if your IQ was actually higher than the temperature in my living room, you wouldn't even attempt to babble on about history or wars.
ni try to lecture me on history or warfare.
otherwise, you people probably think retreating to Corfu counts as some kind of victory..

I honestly couldn't care less about your version of history or bothering to reply just so I don't clog up this thread with nonsense—which is something you guys love to do anyway. I might have replied about the Corfu thing in a private message, but seeing as you're pulling those "room temperature IQ" and "sneaker count" lines, I'm pretty sure I'm dealing with a child, so yeah... fundamentally speaking, I'm cutting off all communication here because I really don't give a damn what you think about anything anymore.
🙂

Now you can go ahead and drop some line like, "Well, at least I have something to think about," 🙂))

but this right here is a win.🙂))

https://www.google.com/search?q=american...FUPWLAodiucC9w
Kyle Campbell4 Kyle Campbell4 Regular
265 messages
joined Aug 2021
#504 ·
Noah Jones92 said:Short, clear, and you hit the nail right on the head. That is just how life works—when you mock things, you invite a backlash, but it is truly tragic that justice landed on the wrong people instead of those posting here on this forum. The reality is that more Mexicans showed up in Athens than the Bad Boys did. I am not trying to gloat, but a hundred real supporters are worth infinitely more than five thousand posers, including those infamous sub-factions that started all this madness by creating divisions where you couldn't even gather three guys together because everyone was constantly at odds with one another. Being brought back down to earth isn't necessarily a bad thing; in essence, it provides a solid foundation for a fresh start, provided one actually learns from their own mistakes.

I have been reading through all of this, and out of pure respect for the guys over in Athens, I initially chose to remain silent. However, I simply cannot let this nonsense slide without comment. It is obvious to me that someone has developed a serious grudge against you. If you wanted to be constructive, you would focus on discussing the actual weaknesses and flaws currently plaguing this group. Instead, you are just talking trash and provoking us with points that are completely irrelevant. Bringing up sub-groups and the "one hundred real ones" has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Athens. In fact, the idea of the "one hundred real ones" has proven to be an absolute truth. Anyone who is genuinely active and thinks like a true supporter knows that this away trip was a moment to defend the reputation of the club, the group, and our country. We talk endlessly about the clashes between different factions just to see who stands firm and what happens when things get real. About a hundred people showed up. My utmost respect goes to those men; they are the real deal. The concept of the "one hundred real ones" is not to blame for the fact that this group has always been infested with pretenders and actors who merely rode the coattails of the actual supporters. Whenever there is an event in Western Europe, hundreds of fake Bad Boys suddenly appear to wander the streets. Just wait until we head to London; you will see how many groups fail to show up, followed by endless internet comments whining about how we are finished. Historically, the Eastern side of things has always been handled by a few dozen dedicated individuals working quietly and steadily, without all this online posturing. The current core of the group is not to blame because everyone abandoned them. Some left because they were disgusted by what the club has become, while others left due to this insane repression. The old days of neighborhood crews and powerful sub-factions are gone. Everything has boiled down to a tiny handful of people. And credit to those guys, because for the first time in a long time, they are standing tall with pure supporter ideals. So, stop with the provocation. They aren't responsible for the pathetic mentality of the city and its people. Soon enough, the crazies will descend upon London and everyone will forget all about this, while those who constantly stab the group and the club in the back won't even be thought of. They will be too busy scrambling for ways to actually get into London and into the stadium. Out of respect for those people, please stop poking the bear and fighting about the "one hundred real ones." This isn't the first time you've done this. I wish a speedy recovery to those who were hurt and a safe return home to the States.

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granitemason14 granitemason14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2015
#505 ·
Check out this footage from the ultra tifos Facebook page. You can clearly see the Bad Boys carrying flares and sticks, and in this specific clip, a handful of Delia guys are actually pushing back against a larger group of Bad Boys. So, it wasn't 80 armed guys against 25 unarmed ones; first off, there were more than 25 Bad Boys present, and second, they were armed too. According to the news reports, 8 Bad Boys were injured and 32 people were arrested during the fight near the airport, which adds up to 40. That’s not even counting the ones who slipped past the police. If anyone from the Bad Boys or the Delia was actually there on the ground, speak up and give us the real story.

https://www.facebook.com/ultrastifo/...type=2&theater

Also, just to add to what someone else already said—to our neighbors in the US: it's not the same thing when Americans head to Washington, D.C., versus when they go to Athens. Washington, D.C. is your city and your police, but Athens isn't ours; we aren't exactly welcome there by the AEK or Panathinaikos fans, and their police doesn't answer to us. You're talking like your Delia got jumped in Belgrade, when really they were attacked away from home.
Timothy Barnes8 Timothy Barnes8 Member
13 messages
joined Mar 2012
#506 ·
granitemason14 said:Check out this footage on the ultra tifos' Facebook page. You can clearly see the Bad Boys have flares and sticks, and in this specific clip, a few Delia guys with belts are pushing back a larger group of Bad Boys. So, it wasn't 80 armed guys against 25 barehanded; first off, there were more than 25 Bad Boys, and second, they were armed too. According to media reports, 8 Bad Boys were injured and 32 were arrested in the fight near the airport, making 40 total. That doesn't even count the ones who ran from the cops. I want someone from the Bad Boys or Delia who was actually there to speak up and tell us what really happened.

https://www.facebook.com/ultrastifo/...type=2&theater

Pure propaganda.

So we've reached the part where a massive crowd of heavily armed Bad Boys retreats from four guys with belts. 🤦

God, I hate the internet. Of course, the camera runs out of juice right when those guys show up fully loaded. 🤦 What's there to even debate? "It was roughly 70-30, a bunch of armed guys staged an action, won the fight, and then chaos ensued."

The video cuts out the exact moment a guy is trying to defend himself with his bare hands against three dudes with batons... yeah, I guess the cameraman just got bored. 🤦
granitemason14 granitemason14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2015
#507 ·
Stop talking nonsense—why haven't you even watched the footage yet? Everything is right there in plain sight; you guys had flares and metal pipes. It’s common sense that the Bad Boys expected things to get ugly, so they didn't show up empty-handed. You keep calling actual facts "propaganda," but the real propaganda is your claim that you were unarmed when the video clearly shows you were geared up. And look, the video also makes it obvious that the Delija weren't the majority in that one specific moment, but you’re still acting like you're blind to what happened. I never said the Delija weren't there for the whole fight, just that they weren't the ones in control during that specific exchange.

All this talk about being outnumbered five-to-one, or how knives and pipes were used against bare fists, just doesn't hold any water.
William Kim William Kim Member
29 messages
joined May 2023
#508 ·
granitemason14 said:Stop talking nonsense—why don't you just watch the video? Everything is clearly visible here. You guys had flares and pipes. It’s common sense that the Bad Boys expected a fight, so they didn't show up empty-handed. Calling actual facts "propaganda" is a stretch. Your version of propaganda is claiming you were unarmed when the footage shows you were definitely geared up. And the video clearly shows there weren't more Delia present during that specific moment, but you’re still playing blind. I didn't say the Delia weren't there for the whole brawl, just in that one instance.

All this talk about five against one, or knives and pipes versus bare fists... it just doesn't hold water.

🤣🤣
But honestly... everything is right there on screen. I swear, if you Americans seriously can't see what happened here, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe the clip only lasts a few minutes to you, while to me, it’s just thirty seconds of pure clarity. I’m sure you think you see everything, but from where I’m sitting, we aren't seeing anything at all.
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#509 ·
Richard managed to orchestrate the whole thing perfectly...
Everything was staged. From the provocateurs with their cameras to the lead actors...
Now we’re just waiting for the wave of posts from those supposedly "objective" local commentators
But let them lie to themselves if they want; they did the exact same thing back during the war...
granitemason14 granitemason14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2015
#510 ·
William Kim

Are you guys seriously playing blind here? It’s pretty obvious you were carrying sticks and torches, so don't act like you were unarmed. Plus, if you look closely, at one point during the whole brawl, the Bad Boys weren't even there anymore—you guys were actually retreating. You had a clear opening to push the Bad Boys back in this situation, but you just didn't take it. If you're going to brag about how tough you are, then fine, give credit where it's due and admit how much you choked against those few Bad Boys.
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#511 ·
Steven Thompson16 said:I honestly couldn't care less about your history enough to go over there and argue with you. I don't want to clog up this thread with nonsense—something you guys do constantly. I’d probably just hit you back in a DM if it weren't for those pathetic lines like "your IQ is room temperature" or "count your sneakers"... stuff like that makes it pretty obvious you're just some kid who hasn't grown up yet. So, fundamentally speaking, I'm cutting off all communication here. I really don't give a damn what you want or what you're talking about...
🙂

Now you can reply with something like, "Well, at least I have something to think about," 🙂))

And that would be a total win.🙂))

https://www.google.com/search?q=american...FUPWLAodiucC9w

Look, I don't care what you people write or how much you babble. You were built on lies and you live on them.
It's common knowledge.
And since you're clearly a bunch of idiots, it's obvious you've got some kind of mental glitch going on.
Go sit on a tractor and get lost from this thread...
granitemason14 granitemason14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2015
#512 ·
@ Gary Chase58

The only people lying to themselves here are you guys. You’re still out here pretending you were outnumbered, claiming it was five against one when it clearly wasn't. You keep telling yourselves you're the toughest group in all of America, but every single time you get your asses kicked, you just come up with a new list of excuses to cover it up. Honestly, bringing up war right now just proves you've completely run out of actual arguments. You try to act like Heroes by bringing up those guys from Salt Lake City, but who are a few thousand of you actually fighting? You had excuses when you got beat by the Russians, you had them when you got handled by those expats living in the suburbs, and now you've got them for this. It was more than just the Delija, sure, but it definitely wasn't 3-on-1 or 5-on-1, and both sides were using gear. A bigger, better-organized group simply pushed the other one back and won.
Jeremy Rodriguez11 Jeremy Rodriguez11 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jul 2015
#513 ·
granitemason14 said:@ Gary Chase58

The only ones lying to yourselves are you. You still claim you were unarmed and outnumbered five to one. You keep telling yourselves you're the toughest in all of Europe, yet every time you get beaten, you have a list of excuses ready. Invoking war is the clearest sign that you've run out of arguments. Are you really trying to act like Heroes by bringing up those guys from Salt Lake City? A few thousand against whom? You had excuses for getting thrashed by the Russians, excuses for getting handled by those expatriates, and now you have them for this. There were more Delia present, but it wasn't three-on-one or five-on-one, and both sides were using props. A larger, better organized group simply overwhelmed the other and secured the win.

You aren't wrong about that, except for the fact that you've been clinging to state handouts for 25 years while pretending to be some kind of ultra movement.
Alex Kern3 Alex Kern3 Member
14 messages
joined Jul 2015
#514 ·
He said, she said... it’s always the same old story.
People are spinning entire novels based on a mere thirty-second clip. Even more ridiculous? Everyone is commenting on the fighting based solely on that one video, yet not a single soul has stepped forward from the actual scene. Isn't it impossible that there aren't other angles available? Other footage would surely show the true scale of things and make everything much clearer.

All we need now is the eyewitness to step up, though perhaps it’s better this way.
If it had been a decisive victory for the opposing side, wouldn't they have been the first to flood us with more aggressive reports, photos, and videos?
There is a tiny bit of truth and objectivity being shared here by both sides—especially by the other camp.
northerndriver7 northerndriver7 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jan 2019
#515 ·
bojdo;56112356 said:
northerndriver7 said:Watch out, man—the cops grabbed them at the border immediately... even the Southern front showed up in Washington, D.C., so they just tucked them away in some hall.

Exactly, man. I mean, you spent weeks beforehand acting all tough—making such a massive scene about how ruthless you are and how you're coming for them... who wouldn't want to shut you down right then and there?? Seriously.

btw... you guys knew perfectly well where the Bad Boys were with their greens, so you didn't bother looking for them; instead, you just paraded around in a group of 500, praying the police wouldn't intercept you... loooool

You knew exactly where the crew was and where you could find them... I'd bet anything on that...

But honestly, it’s even more pathetic watching someone pretend to be some kind of hardman in those little short films...

No. btw....the action at the airport was handled well, though—nobody can deny that part.....
cosmicorca82 cosmicorca82 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jul 2015
#516 ·
Respect to the Bad Boys. And to those traitors from the old Eastern bloc territories, I say may God strike you down
boldtiger7 boldtiger7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Aug 2021
#517 ·
I am certain that those Bad Boys who were actually involved won't be posting anything here, and those who did participate aren't saying a word either. I see absolutely no reason for everyone else—whose only source of information seems to be some random clip or news article—to start drawing their own conclusions... Just send a little money to the guys over on Fifth Avenue; I'm positive they're going to need it eventually.
mistygull mistygull Member
34 messages
joined May 2013
#518 ·
T., come on man, just shut this damn forum down already...
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
21 messages
joined Dec 2010
#519 ·
granitemason14 said:@ Gary Chase58

The only people lying to themselves here are you lot. You’re still out here pretending you were unarmed and that it was five against one. You keep deluding yourselves into thinking you're the toughest crowd in all of Europe, and every single time you get your asses handed to you, you come up with some new list of excuses. The best proof that you've run out of actual arguments is when you start bringing up war. You try to act like Heroes by talking about those guys from Cleveland, but against who? A few thousand of you? Even when you got beaten down by the Russians, or by those expats, you had "perfect" reasons for it. Then there was the Delilah situation—there were more of them, sure, but it wasn't 3-on-1 or 5-on-1, and both sides were using gear. One group was just bigger and better organized, so they pushed the other back and won. That's just how it goes.

Honestly, screw you guys, you're acting like a bunch of idiots who weren't even given a brain at birth.
Everyone thinks the exact same way and repeats the same nonsense, and what's worse, you actually convince yourselves
that it's the truth. It's easy to shove a yard of garbage into someone like you, but it's impossible to get even a millimeter of sense into your heads. Dobrica Ćosić described your kind perfectly...
granitemason14 granitemason14 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2015
#520 ·
@ Gary Chase58

You're totally taking the fight out of context, and honestly, being able to look at your own mistakes is what separates an intelligent nation from the rest. It’s clear you just can't wrap your head around the fact that you guys were completely unprepared, which is obvious if you actually watch the footage. And this whole "80/20" math you're clinging to? That's just pure stupidity on your part. Out of 20 people, 8 were injured and 32 were arrested—some reports even say 15 were hurt. So, 8 plus 32 equals 20? Nice work, genius.

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