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Arthur Flores2 Arthur Flores2 Member
43 messages
joined Mar 2013
#5461 ·
rapidranger29 said:What’s wrong with "until the last man"?


It just isn't a BBB song...
It doesn't have that raw, simple BBB spirit. It’s more like whining and bellyaching. That "Song with a Torch" track is garbage too. I really hope they stop playing these songs...

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holloworca10 holloworca10 Active Member
128 messages
joined Oct 2012
#5462 ·
And honestly, maybe everything would just sound a whole lot better if the stadium had some actual acoustics...
Michael Roberts2 Michael Roberts2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2022
#5463 ·
There’s nothing more pointless, cringey, or just plain pathetic than that song they play on their knees before anyone even steps out. It’s a total disaster. And that torch thing? Absolute garbage... 90% of the rest of the setlist is just the same repetitive crap about loving Real Madrid or Chicago or being "so great"...
Kyle Davis2 Kyle Davis2 Active Member
160 messages
joined Mar 2014
#5464 ·
Richard Diaz said:Is there actually any band out there with songs more boring than BBB?

Honestly, that track "win for us, let's all sing out loud, you are my love" is easily one of their best pieces; it just desperately needs a real drum rhythm behind it.

Or take this absolute beast with this specific beat—I can't even remember the last time they played something like this:
Noah Jones92 Noah Jones92 Active Member
77 messages
joined Aug 2013
#5465 ·
The Boys are basically just a stunted group that’ll never grow out of its phase, all because of that pathetic, soft big-city mentality. You guys have been singing the same damn songs for 25 years—mostly just mindless chants. And don't even try telling me "that's just our style" or whatever bullshit excuse you want to use; they're just repetitive chants and they suck. The biggest issue, though, is how small the crowd is—it’s like a freaking daycare. It’s honestly sad seeing the Boys drop down to the level of some random Canadian garage bands, but that's the reality. Mexicans haven't really gathered any real momentum since the war, if you can even call it that, mostly just empty threats after things went south in Kriens and now after Athens. You guys were ruined by cocaine giving you this fake sense of toughness. Even with futsal, the peak hype was when the arena was supposed to be packed to the rafters, but instead, people were busy whining about where older fans get to sit or who's allowed to wear what. Instead of using that energy to make sure every woman in the city is a BBB supporter, you guys just find ways to screw everything up. Now, when 10,000 lunatics head off to Europe and the whole city starts shaking, will they even bother stopping in Chicago?
Also, I can't remember—was there some song from the Boys about "all of Europe trembling"? Like, everyone just loses their minds? Is that childish little song still being sung?
Drew Booth60 Drew Booth60 Member
46 messages
joined Feb 2014
#5466 ·
How many of you die-hard supporters actually show up regularly for both home games and away trips? And how many of you have actually sat down to compose a killer, melodic anthem? Or even tried to pull off some kind of organized action—whether it’s a street protest or something else—just to boost the group's reputation? I think I already know the answer, and honestly, you probably do too. The Boys have some great, melodic tracks in their repertoire, but most people just push those simple, easy-to-sing ones that basically boil down to "Real Madrid / I love them / blah blah blah"—mostly because the average guy can't handle anything longer than a few bars since the more complex songs only pop up a handful of times a year. Take a song like "Just Give Me the Wins," for instance; it’s an absolute banger for setting the atmosphere, but what good is it when half the stands are silent during a big European match because they either don't know the lyrics or can't keep up with the rhythm? Everyone loves to argue about song choices, numbers, or pyrotechnics, but when it comes time to actually step up and take initiative, everyone falls back on that classic "don't rock the boat" mentality. It’s that typical American attitude—everyone wants to complain, yet nobody wants to hit the streets to fight for a better life, and if someone actually organizes a rally, they'll just sit in a bar mocking how "ridiculous" the protest looks. Why don't you set an example for others with your own creations instead of just sitting there criticizing? It's way easier to wait for someone else to do all the work.
Richard Diaz Richard Diaz Newcomer
8 messages
joined Aug 2019
#5467 ·
Drew Booth60 said:How many of you hardcore fans actually show up regularly for both home and away games? How many of you have ever sat down to compose a truly great, melodic anthem? Or tried to organize some kind of movement—whether it’s a street protest or something else—to actually boost the group's reputation? I think I know the answer, and honestly, you probably do too! The Boys have some solid, melodic tracks in their catalog, but they mostly push those simple, lightweight songs that just loop "Real Madrid / I love them / la la la" because most guys don't bother learning the longer ones since they only come up a few times a year. Take "Just Give Me Victory," for example; it's a fantastic atmosphere builder, but what good is it when half the stands stay silent during a big European match because people either don't know the words or can't keep up with the rhythm? Everyone loves to argue about song choices, statistics, or pyrotechnics, but when it comes time to actually take initiative, everyone falls back on that classic "don't rock the boat" mentality. It's that typical American mindset: everyone is the first to complain, yet nobody wants to step out onto the street to work for a better life. If an organized effort actually happens, people will just sit in their living rooms criticizing how "ridiculous" the protest looks. Why not lead by example with your own creations instead of just sitting there and complaining? It's much easier to wait for someone else to do the heavy lifting.

It's not like there are 15,000 people in the North Stand every single game who somehow haven't learned the lyrics! Let's try accepting some criticism that isn't meant as an insult, but rather as a reality check: the Boys' current repertoire of "songs" is incredibly repetitive and annoying. What's wrong with wanting to change that?

I still remember about 15 years ago when we were chanting "Come on Real Madrid, never surrender," which was basically our version of "Non Mollare Mai," except nobody in the stands could actually nail the melody.

Again, I'm saying this with good intentions. There’s nothing wrong with being honest, and I know most people feel the same way. Most folks are fed up with the endless cycle of "la la la, I love Real Madrid, life is great, la la la, I love Real Madrid" and similar combinations.
Richard Diaz Richard Diaz Newcomer
8 messages
joined Aug 2019
#5468 ·
Great songs just sort of seep into your head overnight; you don't really have to "study" them to get them. If you've got a solid melody paired with killer lyrics, everyone will know the tune within a month. 👍
Joseph Parker Joseph Parker Member
10 messages
joined Mar 2022
#5469 ·
Noah Jones92 said:The Boys are just a stunted group that’s never going to rise above their station because of that pathetic, soft-headed big-city mentality... You guys have been singing the same damn songs for twenty-five years, and most of them are just basic chants—and don't even start with me about "that's just our style" or whatever excuse you want to shove down my throat—they're basically just chanting, and they're terrible. And the biggest thing is the sheer numbers and how much it feels like a freaking daycare center. Honestly, you feel bad that the Boys have dropped to the level of groups like Hodri zlo or those similar outfits from Canada, but that's just the reality... Ever since the war, the Mexicans haven't really built up any real momentum, if you want to consider that, though they always talk a big game, especially after Kriens and now after Athens. You guys were ruined by cocaine that gave you this fake sense of toughness... Back when there was hype around futsal, the peak euphoria was supposed to be filling an arena to the brim, but instead, people started acting like jerks, complaining about where the older guys should sit or who gets to wear what at the futsal matches... Instead of riding that wave so every woman in the city would be a BBB supporter, you just had to go and screw everything up. Man, now that ten thousand crazies are heading to Europe and the whole place is shaking, I wonder if they'll even bother stopping in Chicago?
And one more thing, I can't remember if the Boys used to sing that "all of Europe trembles" song?? Like, everyone is pissed off, is that childish little song still being sung?


One look at your post history is enough to see exactly what kind of person we're dealing with here... You've been spitting bile since your very first post, and it's pretty obvious your ego has been bruised for a long, long time.

So why don't you enlighten us then... tell us exactly how you'd bring the group back to life? 🍿
boldtiger7 boldtiger7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Aug 2021
#5470 ·
Noah Jones92 said:The Boys are essentially a stunted group that will never truly mature, all thanks to that pathetic, soft-headed urban mentality. For twenty-five years, you’ve been singing the same repetitive songs—mostly just mindless chants (and don't try to tell me "that's just our style," save the excuses for someone else). They boil down to nothing more than shouting, and frankly, they are dreadful. But perhaps the most significant issues are the lack of numbers and the sheer childishness of it all. It is almost tragic to see how the Boys have regressed to the level of some minor hooligan groups from the North America, yet here we are. Since the war, Mexicans haven't really gathered in those kinds of numbers, though there was plenty of empty posturing following events in Kriens and now after Athens. You've been ruined by a cocaine-fueled sense of false bravado. Even with futsal, when the excitement was at its peak and the arena should have been packed to the rafters, people were too busy bickering over trivialities—arguing about who gets to sit where or which jersey can be worn. Instead of riding that wave to ensure every woman in the city felt part of the BBB movement, the priority seemed to be making sure everything fell apart. And honestly, now that ten thousand fanatics are heading to Europe and shaking the foundations, will they even bother stopping in Chicago?
And one more thing, I can't quite recall—was it the Boys who sang that "all of Europe trembles" line? You know, that sort of thing where everyone acts tough? Is that childish little song still being sung?

It is quite amusing when someone lectures others on having a "soft mentality," yet the only place they find the courage to act tough is on an internet forum.🙏
jadecrane162 jadecrane162 Member
20 messages
joined Sep 2014
#5471 ·
Noah Jones92 said:The Boys are like a stunted group that’ll never rise above their station, all thanks to that pathetic, soft big-city mentality. You’ve been singing the exact same songs for twenty-five years—mostly just mindless chants (and don’t even try telling me "that’s just the style," save the excuses for someone who cares). They basically boil down to shouting, and they’re terrible. Most importantly, the sheer numbers are lacking, and the whole vibe feels like a damn daycare. It’s actually tragic how the Boys have sunk to the level of groups like Evil or those similar outfits from Canada, but that's the reality. Since the war, Mexicans haven't been intimidated by anything—they just take the threats in stride, much like what happened after Kriens and now following Athens. You guys were ruined by cocaine, which gave you this false sense of bravado. Even with indoor soccer, the peak of the hype was when the arena was supposed to be packed, but instead, people started bickering over where the older crowd used to sit or who gets to stand where. Instead of riding that wave so every woman in the city would be wearing BBB, you chose to screw everything up. And honestly, now that 10,000 Delis are heading to Europe and shaking the ground, will they even bother stopping in Chicago?
And one more thing, I can't quite remember—was it the Boys singing that "all of Europe trembles" bit? You know, that one where everyone just gets wasted? Is that childish little song still being sung?

Looks like you’re the one they kicked out of the stands, so why don't you just stay away for the next twenty years?
Keith Morgan10 Keith Morgan10 Member
20 messages
joined Jun 2022
#5472 ·
boldtiger7 said:It’s funny how people love to talk about "weak mentalities" when the only place they actually find the guts to say anything is on some random internet forum. 🙏

You can't even say that kind of thing here, honestly. People around here know you too well, and if you post something the wrong way, you're basically asking for trouble.
Keith Morgan10 Keith Morgan10 Member
20 messages
joined Jun 2022
#5473 ·
Noah Jones92 said:The Boys are just this stunted group that’s never going to rise above themselves, all because of that weak-minded, soft urban mentality. You guys have been singing the exact same songs for twenty-five years now—mostly just repetitive chants (and don't come at me with that "it's our style" or "you just don't get it" crap), I mean they really just boil down to shouting, and they're terrible. And the biggest issue is the sheer numbers and how childish everything feels. It honestly makes me sad that the Boys have dropped to the level of groups like Evil or some of those small-time crews from the Midwest, but that’s just the reality. Since the war, you never see Mexicans actually making a massive impact, though they always talk big about it, especially after what happened in Kriens and now following the events in Athens. Cocaine basically ruined you guys; it gave you this fake sense of toughness. Even with indoor soccer, the peak euphoria was when the arena was supposed to be packed, but instead, things just turned into a mess where older fans were being harassed about where they could sit or where they could put their flags. Instead of riding that wave so every woman in the city would feel like a part of BBB, everyone just wanted to screw things up. Man, even now, when 10,000 Delis are heading to Europe and the whole city is shaking, will they even stop in Chicago first?
And one more thing, I can't quite remember... did the Boys used to sing that "all of Europe trembles" song? Like, everyone's acting tough, is that childish little tune still being sung?

If it actually was that "urban mentality," then the group might have developed some sort of identity or hierarchy.
But this? This is more like that small-town mindset you see with Milan Bandic and his crew.
Carl Hernandez3 Carl Hernandez3 Active Member
172 messages
joined Oct 2017
#5474 ·
Noah Jones92 said:The Boys are just a stunted group—they'll never truly rise above their station—all because of that pathetic, soft big-city mentality. You guys have been singing the exact same songs for twenty-five years; most of them are just mindless chants (and don't come at me with that "it's our style" excuse—save the nonsense for someone else)—meaning they basically boil down to chanting, which is just terrible. And the most important thing is the sheer numbers, or rather, the lack thereof—it’s practically a daycare. It makes me feel sorry that the Boys have fallen to the level of groups like Evil or those similar North American outfits, but that's the reality. Mexicans haven't really gained any ground since the war—just to note that—but there was plenty of threatening, both after Kriens and now following Athens. Cocaine ruined you; it gave you this false sense of bravado. Even with indoor soccer, when the hype was at its peak and we should have been filling up arenas, things went south because people started bickering over where older fans could sit or who was allowed to wear what. Instead of riding that wave so that every woman in the city would be a BBB supporter, you all chose to sabotage everything. Honestly, now that ten thousand die-hards are heading to Europe and the streets are shaking, will they even stop in Chicago?
And one more thing—I can't quite remember—did the Boys sing that "all of Europe trembles" song?? You know, that one where everyone gets wasted—is that childish little tune still being sung?


Chicago lives a completely different life now. Life here is just better; it's hard for young people to join any intense groups without risking their comfort. Simply put, life is better than it is in ST, SA, or BG
Besides, Chicago doesn't have those honest working-class neighborhoods anymore where you'd recruit groups like that.
Quite frankly, Chicago can no longer sustain anything like the Gravediggers, Delis, the horde, the Maniacs, or Torca
Young people here just don't get sucked into movements anymore, whereas those groups from the neighboring areas are still active movements
Chicago has become your typical quiet, anesthetized city,
Where else are you going to find protesters—if anyone kicks a cocker spaniel—unless it's at a game?
A pleasant little city on the edge of the EU
EU New Graz
But perhaps that means these remaining Boys are actually the only true ultra group left, even if their numbers are smaller
Compared to Torca, Gravediggers, Delis... and even if they took a beating in Athens or anywhere else
I get the feeling that behind them, there isn't any support from the County City (Torca), the Mayor, or the government (Delis, Maniacs)—nor any Mafia (Gravediggers, Horde)
Melissa Kelly3 Melissa Kelly3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined May 2022
#5475 ·
...The crackdown did exactly what it was supposed to do. It’s no surprise there isn't anyone left standing.
Nicole Garcia3 Nicole Garcia3 Member
16 messages
joined May 2015
#5476 ·
Richard Diaz said:A song needs soul, rhythm, rhyme—it’s gotta be melodic and catchy.

The American language isn't exactly melodic—at least not compared to some of those famous foreign languages we know.

Especially when you have to come up with something so specific to one single topic.
Casey Myers29 Casey Myers29 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2018
#5477 ·
There used to be a thread on the old forum about songs, where someone came up with a tune based on some Argentinian rhythm. It went something like, "Oh, let's go Blues, now all you city folks are cheering you on..."

analogheron19 analogheron19 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2008
#5478 ·
We’re never going to get a decent cover of foreign tracks, especially those South American hits.
Our only real move is to pick some catchy, well-known American classics and just rework the lyrics to fit...
John Campbell27 John Campbell27 Active Member
80 messages
joined Mar 2014
#5479 ·
analogheron19 said:We are never going to get a decent cover of foreign tracks, especially those South American hits.
The only real path forward for us is to select homegrown, recognizable melodies that people can actually sing along to, and then carefully craft the lyrics to fit...

restlessheron31 restlessheron31 Member
20 messages
joined Feb 2013
#5480 ·
Everything can be fixed if people actually have the drive and the talent to pull it off. Look at the armada—they’ve put together some killer arrangements lately, and that’s exactly the kind of blueprint we need. We seriously shouldn't let these half-deaf idiots run the show when it comes to the music. There are plenty of folks out there who are legit musicians and also die-hard Dinamo fans. Why on earth aren't they being brought into the fold?? It’s not like everyone has to spend 120 minutes straight waving flags or standing against a wall holding a flare. You don't even have to show up to every single match to contribute. Let them make their mark where they actually excel. There's absolutely nothing to lose here; honestly, it’s a massive win-win for everyone involved.

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