Metabolism tips?

Susan Sullivan6 said:Bro, whey spikes insulin😁

Heh, I don't think that's quite right. 😉

Matthew Alvarez77 said:I'm with you there. I mean, no amount of whey is ever going to actually replace the high-quality protein you get from eating chicken, eggs, or lean meats. It’s just sad how much marketing works on people 🙂

Yeah, but I guess nobody is really arguing that point. My main thing is... well, maybe it's just me, but when you use whey, you aren't dealing with all those extra hormones they pump into chicken and turkey these days.

briskbison55 said:No one is disputing that. However, unless you're using whey, you aren't avoiding the hormones that chicken and turkey are absolutely loaded with.

Finding hormone-free meat is nearly impossible unless you live on a farm and raise your own poultry.😢

Matthew Alvarez77 said:Honestly, finding meat without all those hormones added in is pretty much impossible unless you live out in the middle of nowhere on a farm with your own chickens or something. 😢

And I guess that’s why whey isn't actually a bad protein source at all... I mean, I strictly stick to using it right after my workouts because, honestly, it’s just the most convenient thing to do.

crimsonfox26 said:How much fruit is actually "too much"?

My OB-GYN told me right at the start of my pregnancy to watch my fruit intake, but honestly, I feel like an athlete's body processes everything differently compared to a pregnant woman whose main exercise is maybe a light swim or a walk—or someone who isn't exercising at all because they're on bed rest.

Look, athlete or not, a regular person can probably eat over 20 servings of fruit without any issues (though you really should try to stick to organic if you can help it). I wouldn't know about pregnant women, though—never been there myself.
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Matthew Alvarez77 said:heheh I don't think it works quite like that. 😉

Insulin isn't strictly tied to carbs. For instance, things like meat and eggs can spike insulin quite a bit (sometimes even more than foods loaded with simple carbs), even though they have almost zero carbohydrates.

Even when you look at it from a muscle-building perspective, insulin doesn't really play a huge role in anabolism—it might affect catabolism, sure.

So, adding sugars to your whey is pretty pointless, and in the long run, it could actually be counterproductive. ☕

So, can I just knock back some whey by itself right after a workout?

Yeah

Insulin isn't strictly tied to carbohydrates. For instance, meat and eggs can spike insulin significantly—sometimes even more than foods loaded with simple carbs—despite containing almost zero carbs.

Even regarding muscle growth, insulin doesn't drive anabolism; if anything, it might impact catabolism.

Therefore, adding sugars to whey is pointless and could actually be harmful in the long run. ☕

I won't say you aren't right, but you're wrong.

Matthew Alvarez77 said:I won't say you're wrong, but you aren't...

It's true that protein triggers an insulin response.

http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

Susan Jackson12 said:They're right about proteins triggering an insulin response.

http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

I'm aware, man. But you can't just balance out the glycemic index of maltodextrin with whey; those numbers aren't even in the same ballpark. We all know a higher GI means faster protein absorption, which just amplifies the effects of taking whey. End of discussion.

The whole glycemic index thing isn't even really tied to muscle growth via insulin spikes (honestly, most of that talk is just nonsense, and the insulin stuff is usually pretty misguided too).

I’ve noticed that whey can definitely kick my insulin up a notch, but personally, I don't see insulin itself having much to do with building muscle. It doesn't make a massive difference whether you toss some sugar in there or not. The only real long-term downside is just increasing your chances of dealing with diabetes down the road. Bro 😁

Susan Sullivan6 said:The glycemic index isn't necessarily tied to insulin response. Honestly, focusing on it is mostly nonsense—just like obsessing over insulin levels is in most cases.

The whey spikes my insulin quite a bit, but personally, I don't see any connection between insulin levels and muscle growth. It makes zero difference whether you add sugar or not. The only real consequence is that you're increasing your long-term risk of developing diabetes. Bro. 😁

I beg to differ, but if you're really buying into all that, then by all means, carry on. 😉

Personally, I think if you train hard enough, slamming 20 grams of dextrose after a workout isn't exactly going to trigger diabetes.

Matthew Alvarez77 said:I have to say, I don't quite see eye to eye with you on this, but if that's what you truly believe, then I suppose there isn't much point in arguing further, is there?😉

P.S. Personally, I feel that if your training sessions are intense enough, taking about 20g of dextrose after a workout certainly isn't going to trigger diabetes.

It won't, but then again, adding 20g of glucose to your PWM is pretty much negligible too; it just doesn't serve much of a purpose, does it?

Matthew Alvarez77 said:Look, I don't see it that way, but hey, if that's what you're banking on, then just move on😉

Man, I'm not just making stuff up here. There are actual studies out there—just do a little digging, bro.😁

Matthew Alvarez77 said:P.S. I mean, I honestly feel like if you're training hard enough, taking maybe 20 grams of dextrose after a workout isn't going to just give you diabetes out of nowhere.

But seriously, what's the point of using dextrose?

Susan Sullivan6 said:Look, there are actual studies out there. Do some research, bro. 😁

There is plenty of research supporting the use of dextrose and sugar. 😉 brooo 👍

Jeffrey White7 said:It won't help, but then again, adding 20g of glucose to your PWM is basically meaningless. There's no point.

Not quite.

crimsonfox26 said:Rice makes you gain weight, too.

Just meat soaked in whey 🙂

Man, how did I miss this gem? I mean, if you can't mix the whey directly into the whey, then just toss some chicken in there with the whey. 😁

Matthew Alvarez77 said:So, I was reading up on this earlier, and... I guess there actually are some studies out there that seem to support using dextrose—you know, basically just sugar—as part of a supplement routine. It’s kind of interesting, really. Like, maybe it's not all bad? There's research suggesting it can actually be beneficial in certain contexts. I don't know, it's hard to say for sure without looking at everything, but it seems like there's some legitimate science backing the idea of using it. 😉 Brooo 👍

Then you’ve got those guys who swear by the whole "just one banana" thing... like that's all the fuel you need right after a workout. They tell you to just head home, throw some quick steak on the grill, maybe toss a tomato on the side, and call it a day. I guess that works for some people, bro. 😉

So, what’s the move? 🙂

Am I actually gonna pull the trigger on this dextrose or what?

If you thought you actually knew anything before... yeah, one look at this forum and you realize you're clueless. Honestly, might never figure it out... 😁