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Participants Susan Sullivan6Matthew Alvarez77Jeffrey White7Roger Vaughn2Linda Castillo10Carl Greencrimsonfox26Karen Wilson11Michael Baker5briskjackal5briskbison55Lisa Rogers94Susan Jackson12Chris Nelson26Jack Ward82Henry Hayes3Brandon Rivera11Steven Nguyen87Grace EdwardsSean Cruzvividraven7George Diaz47
Lisa Rogers94 Lisa Rogers94 Member
21 messages
joined Jun 2012
#61 ·
Hell yeah, I love them dried! Honestly, they’re my absolute go-to whenever I need a quick energy boost,
Steven Nguyen87 Steven Nguyen87 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2012
#62 ·
I’m also a big fan of grapes 😁
crimsonfox26 crimsonfox26 Member
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joined Dec 2020
#63 ·
Hey, I just can't get into them for the life of me 😳

I'm all for a fresh Grape, but dried ones? Absolutely not 🤣
Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
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joined May 2023
#64 ·
crimsonfox26 said:Grape, sure, but definitely not dried 🤣

I'm not really a grape person myself. I guess I can tolerate them if they're fermented.
Karen Wilson11 Karen Wilson11 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2018
#65 ·
crimsonfox26 said:grapes, dried??
if there's one thing I absolutely cannot stand, it's raisins... ugh, seriously, when I spot them hiding in a cake, I'm immediately skipping 🤣

And don't even get me started on my protein powder just sitting there rotting in my pantry. Every single time I actually try to get serious about hitting the gym, I go through this whole ritual of ordering more whey, which keeps me motivated for maybe, what, a day? Then I drink it once or twice, get totally sick of the taste, and end up quitting the whole supplement thing altogether 😁

man, raisins are the worst 🙄 I once tossed some into my oatmeal with milk, and they just swelled up and started floating around the bowl like little cockroaches 😁
basically, grapes are a hard pass, but I can actually deal with dried cranberries.
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
265 messages
joined Apr 2008
#66 ·
In my experience, you get the best results if you soak dried fruit in water overnight before blending it first thing in the morning.

I usually mix that blend with wheat germ or bulgur, along with some cocoa, cinnamon, flaxseed oil, various seeds, and almonds.

To be honest, I don't think I've ever met anyone who doesn't like a good Grape. 😬
vividraven7 vividraven7 Member
11 messages
joined May 2012
#67 ·
Isn't dextrose only worth it if you're planning on hitting the protein right after?

Just a random thought here... 😁 Honestly, I don't really obsess over this stuff and I don't bother with supplements (though I'm definitely not sweating glucose when I can just grab some raisins instead), mostly because I try to stick to a decent, varied diet.

The only thing I take is magnesium. 🙂

At the end of the day, I think listening to your own body is what actually matters. 🧐 🤣

I mean... if you want to eat a ton of fruit, just eat the fruit. 😁 Like I did this morning—a banana, a handful of blackberries, some currants, more blackberries, and a little organic apple. 😁 😍
Matthew Alvarez77 Matthew Alvarez77 Member
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joined Jul 2015
#68 ·
vividraven7 said:Isn't dextrose only taken if you're consuming protein immediately after?

Just asking for nothing in particular. 😁 I don't really obsess over this and don't bother with supplements (though I'm not talking about glucose, which you can just swap for raisins) since I generally eat a healthy, varied diet.

The only thing is magnesium 🙂

I think the most important thing is listening to your body 🧐 🤣

Look... if you want to eat tons of fruit, go ahead and eat plenty of fruit 😁 like I did this morning—a banana, a handful of blackberries, some currants, more blackberries, and a small organic apple 😁 😍


If I actually listened to my body, I’d be at McDonald's every other day, so spare me the lectures: it's best to listen to what your body tells you—except in this case, it isn't telling you much. You should listen when you're training and feel like you've hit a wall, or realize things will go sideways if you push further; then, you listen to your body and take a rest, or simply stop.

I've been on a rigorous diet for the last month and a half, and every single day I had the urge to kill myself with a Snickers bar. I didn't eat one, though, and managed to drop my body fat by about 8%, which is no small feat, all while maintaining muscle mass.

Regarding the glucose question: essentially, glucose serves to replenish your glycogen stores—your muscle fuel—after a workout. It's a simple sugar structurally, a monosaccharide, so it reaches the muscles quite rapidly. Similarly, when you consume sugar, your body experiences a slight shock and releases insulin, which acts as an excellent transporter for protein (which is why dextrose is taken with protein post-workout). Muscles contain specific enzymes that convert glucose into glycogen, providing you with what you need very quickly (one part of the glucose turns into muscle glycogen, and one part goes to the liver). However, muscles lack the enzyme to convert fructose into glycogen, so all that fructose just goes to waste. People also tend to overdo it with fructose; they'll wolf down two apples, three oranges, and two bananas and claim, "It's just fruit, it won't make me gain weight." In reality, it takes less than an 8-ounce glass of orange juice to fill liver glycogen stores; everything else gets converted into fat. 🙂

So, stick to glucose after training, and save the fructose for the morning or early afternoon when your metabolism is still peaking. 😉
vividraven7 vividraven7 Member
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joined May 2012
#69 ·
I’m big on healthy eating—currently working my way through some poached halibut, sautéed spinach, and potato salad :mljac:—so I don't exactly crave junk food every single day. That said, I’ll still indulge once in a while if the mood strikes. Let's be real.
Not sure how to put this... personally, I think having kids is a total nightmare 😁
It’s just constant psychological warfare, and honestly, I don't know how anyone handles it.
Look, cutting back on sugar and carbs makes sense (I do it too), but spending your entire day obsessing over a Snickers bar while you're stuck eating low-fat cottage cheese and tuna (okay, maybe a bit dramatic, but probably accurate 😬) sounds like pure misery to me 😁
But hey, whatever. I’ll stick to my bacon, and you can go ahead and try to shave off that last 8% body fat in a month 🙂
Matthew Alvarez77 Matthew Alvarez77 Member
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joined Jul 2015
#70 ·
vividraven7 said:I'm all about healthy eating (currently having some poached cod with chard and potato salad 😋), so I don't crave junk food daily. Though, let's be honest, I'll indulge occasionally.
I'm not sure how to respond to you... To me, kids are just trouble. 😁
It's constant psychological warfare, and I honestly don't know how anyone deals with it.
Sure, watch your sugar and carb intake (I do the same)... but spending your entire day obsessing over a Snickers bar while you're stuck eating low-fat cottage cheese and tuna (that's a bit hyperbolic, though maybe accurate 😬) seems like pure torture to me. 😁
Fine then... I'll stick to my bacon, and you can go ahead and drop 8% body fat in a single day. 🙂

I'll just hit the beach without any stress, not worrying about whether my gut is sticking out or not (not talking about you specifically here 😉).
George Diaz47 George Diaz47 Member
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joined Jan 2011
#71 ·
Matthew Alvarez77 said:What’s even the point of this post? Didn't anyone teach you that acting like this just exposes how little you actually know?

If you disagree with these claims, then go ahead and state which ones you think are correct.

You can find all this info anywhere—maybe try picking up a high school biology textbook and doing some actual reading.

BTW—I went out of my way to reply this time, but I won't bother in the future because it's just not worth the typing.

I don't agree with any of it. That whole thing about juice is ridiculous; I won't even dignify it with a comment. Plus, I wouldn't agree that metabolism is fastest in the morning. A 24-hour day is a human construct, and our bodies don't sync up with the clock just to sort food intake by the hour. Even if it were "faster" in the morning, the difference is surely negligible. Feel free to debunk me if you have actual credible links, but based on what I know, this sounds like pure broscience.

As for the first point, it's a bit funny that you claim you didn't lose any muscle while dropping 8% body fat in a month and a half. It's pretty hard to believe.
Matthew Alvarez77 Matthew Alvarez77 Member
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joined Jul 2015
#72 ·
George Diaz47 said:I disagree with everything here. This whole juice claim is laughable; I won't even dignify it with a response. Furthermore, I wouldn't agree that metabolism peaks in the morning. A 24-hour day is just a human construct; our bodies don't sync up perfectly with it to categorize food intake by the hour. Even if it were "faster" in the morning, the difference would be negligible. Feel free to refute me if you have actual links, but based on current knowledge, this sounds like pure broscience.

As for your first point, it’s a bit funny to claim you didn't lose any muscle while dropping 8% body fat in just six weeks. It seems highly suspicious.


I don't have the time right now to hunt down specific studies, but I didn't write any of this for no reason. I don't post things I'm unsure about.

Look, just because you might not be able to do it doesn't mean it's impossible for someone else to drop 8% body fat in a month while preserving muscle mass. It's doable if you're disciplined and watch every single calorie. And yes, you can maintain muscle. I didn't lose mine because I've been tracking myself from the start and I know what I'm talking about—my chest didn't shrink, my biceps stayed the same, and my waist was basically the only thing that changed. If you want to know how, I'll tell you: I increased my training intensity while gradually cutting carbs. It's damn hard, but with enough willpower, it works.

Also, I haven't seen any photos of you. Perhaps I should see what you actually look like before deciding whether to continue this debate, as physical results speak volumes about one's expertise and competence.
George Diaz47 George Diaz47 Member
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joined Jan 2011
#73 ·
Matthew Alvarez77 said:I don't have time to dig up those studies right now, but I didn't just pull this out of thin air. I don't write about things I'm unsure of.

Whatever. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean nobody else can drop 8% body fat in a month while keeping muscle mass. It’s possible if you're disciplined and watch every single calorie. And yes, you can preserve muscle. I haven't lost mine since I've been tracking everything from day one; my chest hasn't shrunk, my biceps are fine—basically, only my waist got smaller. If you want to know how, I just cranked up the training intensity while simultaneously tapering off carbs. It's damn hard, but with enough willpower, it works.

Also, I haven't seen your photos. Honestly, I might need to see what you actually look like before I decide if this debate is even worth continuing, because physical appearance says a lot about how much authority someone actually has when they speak.


If there's no evidence, it's just broscience. It seems to be your tradition to just post gym clichés and hearsay without ever backing anything up. If our entire discussion boils down to "read a high school textbook," then there's really no point in talking. What am I supposed to say to that? Is it just a glass of juice and then everything goes straight to fat?

I have no intention of posting photos. This is an online forum, not a Gold's Gym. I judge others by their posts, and I'm certain everyone else judges based on the quality of comments rather than looks.
Matthew Alvarez77 Matthew Alvarez77 Member
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joined Jul 2015
#74 ·
George Diaz47 said:Without evidence, it's just broscience. You seem to be turning this into some sort of tradition—nothing but hearsay and gym clichés, yet you haven't backed up a single one of your posts. If our entire discussion boils down to "just read a high school textbook," then there's really no point in debating at all. What am I even supposed to say to someone who thinks a splash of juice and the rest goes straight to fat?

I have no intention of posting photos. This is a forum, not a gym. I judge people by their posts, and I’m certain everyone else judges based on the quality of the commentary, not physical appearance.

I have posted some, but in a different thread. 😉 These aren't clichés; they are principles that experienced lifters have practiced for years. My position remains unchanged.

Well, go ahead and post them so we can actually see. There's no reason not to, especially since I'm sure you look great given that you claim to practice everything you preach. It would give you actual credibility.
You can keep talking all you want, but if you're sitting at 30% body fat while trying to act like a bodybuilder, you aren't exactly qualified to give advice. If what you're saying were true, even hypothetically, you wouldn't look quite like that.
George Diaz47 George Diaz47 Member
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joined Jan 2011
#75 ·
Matthew Alvarez77 said:I've mentioned some, but that's for a different thread. 😉 These aren't clichés; they're principles experienced people have used for years. My stance hasn't changed one bit.

Just post the photos so we can actually see. There's no reason not to, especially since I'm sure you look great given you claim to practice everything you talk about—you clearly have the credibility.
You can say whatever you want, but if you're sitting at 30% body fat trying to lecture me on bodybuilding, you aren't exactly an authority. If your advice actually worked, you’d (hypothetically) look a lot different right now.

Like I said, I'm not posting pictures. I don't need validation for my physique, and frankly, I value my anonymity. All these "tried and true" methods have been debunked a million times—from carb cycling to fast/slow metabolism myths. Just because one method works for one person doesn't mean it's universal or even optimal. That's why I take any "expert" advice with a massive grain of salt. Unless someone provides absolute proof, I'm staying put.
Matthew Alvarez77 Matthew Alvarez77 Member
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joined Jul 2015
#76 ·
George Diaz47 said:As I stated before, I have no intention of posting photos. I don't need validation for my physique, and frankly, I value my privacy. These "proven" methods have been debunked a million times—everything from tempering insulin to fast versus slow metabolism. Just because one method works for someone doesn't mean it's universal or even optimal. That’s why I take advice from "experts" with a heavy grain of salt. If someone provides absolute proof, I am more than willing to change my mind.

Then stick to scientific research; that should help you. You know best how you're progressing now and how you'll move forward.

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