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Participants Brian Campbell36crimsonstag84mellowtiger83Amy Vaughn12analogtiger19Sean Garcia3Robert Rodriguez2Adam Moore3Kimberly Gomez34David Sanders4Alexander Moore67Kenneth Jackson3Larry Ortiz5fadedorca66Jeremy Fowler4darkowl72mellowskipper91Jeremy Martinez61
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#241 ·
Well, you really went and did it this time 😬

$650 paying that much for a Radeon R9 280 seems pretty wild, especially since you still have to deal with $17 shipping, and usually anything over $667 ships for free 😵.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#242 ·
Why isn't that price listed clearly on their website?

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Ever since that post went live, the price jumped $50...
crimsonstag84 crimsonstag84 Regular
518 messages
joined Jun 2010
#243 ·
Yeah, they actually dropped the price from $600 down to $650 today.
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#244 ·
crimsonstag84 said:So, you've effectively screwed yourself in the end, haven't you? 😬

$650 Paying for a Radeon R9 280 is pure madness when you consider that you're still paying for $17 shipping, whereas anything over $667 comes with free 😵 delivery.

Timothy Kim60 said:Why on earth wouldn't they have listed that price clearly on the website?

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Since that post, the price has jumped $50...

crimsonstag84 said:Yes, the price was adjusted today from $600 down to $650.

It appears everyone is recommending this specific card—the OC version. I believe I have reached my objective; I expect it to perform roughly 10% better than my two previous Radeon HD 7770 OC models.

The R9 290 is approximately $867, which makes $200 far too expensive for me.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
686 messages
joined Jul 2009
#245 ·
Look, having a three-year warranty isn't even a requirement here. For that price point, you’re getting the absolute best deal possible: the top-tier Radeon R9 280 Toxic card from Future. It's a steal, especially since $6.75 any order over $2,000 gets free shipping
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Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#246 ·
Timothy Kim60 said:claiming that a three-year warranty isn't even a prerequisite here; at that price point, you might as well grab the top-tier 280X Toxic from Future, especially since $6.75 spending over $2000 qualifies you for free shipping

So, it turns out I might have actually purchased the wrong card altogether.🤦

Can I realistically expect to see even a marginal 10% improvement over my current dual Radeon HD 7770 setup? 🤔

I had convinced myself that high-end graphics were the pinnacle of performance, yet I find certain circles insisting that modern GPUs are essentially worthless.

Just how much of an upgrade is this specific card from Future? Please, spare me the hyperbolic "50%" claims; I intend to overclock this thing heavily, and while the specs suggest it's suitable for it, it's essentially just an overclocked version of the base model itself.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
686 messages
joined Jul 2009
#247 ·
Who says nothing here is worth it? This price hike is just a new variable to deal with. It ends up costing you about as much as a future 280X; I linked it for you earlier at around $300, but as I mentioned, the 280X stock performance is basically on par with a 280 custom model (and I'm not even talking about a slight factory overclock). With this Gigabyte model, you'll also get an extended warranty.

You’re definitely going to feel a jump in performance, though I'm honestly not sure how Crossfire works with the Radeon HD 7770, so it's hard to quantify the exact leap. Since you mentioned getting worse results with two cards than with one, here is a comparison using a single card: click
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
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joined Apr 2013
#248 ·
Timothy Kim60 said:Who exactly is claiming that nothing about this is worthwhile? This price hike is simply a new variable to consider, because it turns out you’ll be paying roughly what a 280X would cost down the road. When I sent you that link earlier today, it was sitting at around $270, but as I have already pointed out, the stock performance of a 280X is essentially equivalent to a 280 with a slight factory overclock. By opting for that Gigabyte model, you also secure an extended warranty period.

You will certainly notice an improvement, though I am entirely uncertain how Crossfire performs with a Radeon HD 7770, making it difficult to quantify the exact jump in performance. Since you mentioned that using two cards actually yielded worse results than using just one, allow me to provide a comparison using a single card click

I had intended to purchase the specific card you recommended, but is an extra 12 months of warranty coverage really worth that much of a premium?🍿

If you decide to drop in an identical second card later on, the Crossfire setup should easily outperform a 290.

Will I be able to run Grand Theft Auto V on my PC with this Gigabyte card, even if I settle for medium settings?
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#249 ·
It should run smoothly since the GPU actually exceeds the recommended specs
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
353 messages
joined Jul 2015
#250 ·
The invoice hasn't even gone out yet. You can still cancel through admin and just grab 280x at Future instead. 🙂
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
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joined Apr 2013
#251 ·
Robert Rodriguez2 said:The graphics card and the invoice haven't even been shipped yet; you still have the option to cancel the order through admin and just pick up 280x units at Best Buy instead.🙂

I am hesitating; I always prioritize components that come with a more extensive warranty period.
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
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joined Jul 2015
#252 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:I get it. I always pick the part with the better warranty.

If that's how you roll, a Gigabyte card is the way to go. You can easily bump it up to an R9 280 level.👍
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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joined Nov 2022
#253 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:If you drop another graphic like that later on, the CF crowd is gonna be losing their minds over the 290

Man, just give up on CF already. Might as well wait a few years until it actually makes sense, assuming that ever happens.
Larry Ortiz5 Larry Ortiz5 Regular
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joined May 2020
#254 ·
Honestly, forget about CF—I’d much rather save up my cash for one powerhouse graphics card than settle for two weaker ones.
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#255 ·
fadedorca66 said:Why bother even looking at CF? You might as well wait a few more years until it actually becomes a viable option—if it ever does at all.

Larry Ortiz5 said:Forget CF entirely; I'd much rather save up my cash for one high-end GPU than settle for two mediocre ones.

The R9 280 should be just powerful enough to handle the latest trending titles on at least medium settings, shouldn't it?
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fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
372 messages
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#256 ·
On medium settings? I mean, if it can't even handle high, you might as well just toss it in the trash 😬
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
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joined Apr 2013
#257 ·
fadedorca66 said:On medium settings? If it can't handle high settings, then it belongs in the trash bin.😬

That is a fair assessment—partly because I was looking to jump into GTA V—but now I am facing a different hurdle. Now that my processor is becoming the definitive bottleneck (an Intel i5 2320 at 3.7 GHz), 🍿
I find myself at a crossroads. It is four years old now, and since it is out of warranty, I really just need it to finally retire to the great beyond.

The consensus here on the forum seems to be that when the GTX 780 fails to keep up with modern titles, one should invest in a superior single card rather than attempting to mess around with CrossFire.

On another note, I am selling a graphics card (7770); if anyone is interested, please reach out via PM.
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
686 messages
joined Jul 2009
#258 ·
Age doesn't really matter here. Aside from minor improvements to integrated graphics, processor architecture hasn't seen any massive leaps since the Sandy Bridge era. Plus, CPUs rarely just die on you; there's a 99.99% chance you'll never encounter a hardware failure during your entire lifetime.
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active MemberOP
159 messages
joined Apr 2013
#259 ·
Timothy Kim60 said:It hardly matters how old they are; there hasn't been any significant architectural leap since the Sandy Bridge era, barring minor improvements to integrated graphics. Furthermore, processors rarely just die on you—in your entire lifetime, you'll likely never encounter a scenario where one simply fails to function.

What is the actual lifespan we are talking about here? What is the typical longevity for these components?

A colleague mentioned they generally last about five years, and my own unit is currently approaching that threshold (though I suspect pushing it with overclocking will hasten its inevitable end).🤦
Robert Rodriguez2 Robert Rodriguez2 Regular
353 messages
joined Jul 2015
#260 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:What’s their actual lifespan? Like, what's the average?

A buddy told me they usually last about 5 years. Mine is hitting that limit soon, especially with the cat constantly messing with it. 🤦

I've got old probes from ten years ago that still work. The plates are shot, but I keep the probes for my collection. 😁

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