Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

Jerry Patel4 said:Can sportsbooks actually change the odds after you've already placed the bet? Yesterday at DraftKings they messed up and listed the odds at 3.6 instead of 1.3. I jumped on it at 3.6, the bet actually won, but now they’re trying to pay me out using the 1.3 odds.

Of course they can, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
I once put a live basketball quarter handicap on BetMGM at 1.83, and when I complained, they just told me there was some "glitch" during the entry and recalculated it at 1.06—even though the bet was a winner. It’s happened more times than I can count, and Marathon has pulled the exact same stunt on me.
The whole industry is a joke; you can basically tell them to shove it, but they won't listen.

Meridian is probably the absolute worst sportsbook to ever exist.

The site glitches out every three days like clockwork, so you can't even log in for a few hours when you actually want to use it.

I ended up putting money in there because they were dangling some bonus in front of me. The catch? You had to place a certain number of bets at minimum odds of 1.5. So, I figured I’d just place a smaller wager on something around 1.60 to check the box and grab the bonus, but they hit me with the "sure, you can bet, but only if the odds are 1.48."😂 It’s a constant shell game. They tell you the requirement is 1.7, then they drop it to 1.50, or they move the goalposts just enough to keep you chasing it.😁

swiftlynx34 said:Man, I seriously cannot believe the absolute BS I’m dealing with at Bet365
Here’s the deal:

I placed a live bet on an NCAA basketball game.

Kentucky vs. Arkansas, second half Under 87... the score was 33:31, but then the game went into overtime and my ticket got marked as a loser because the total points hit 88 once OT kicked in.

What kind of absolute garbage is this? Does overtime somehow count toward the second half?

These scammers are unbelievable... I am definitely not letting them get away with this one.

It’s always been that way. We get used to the local bookies where they usually just look at the regulation period, so we get blindsided when we try our luck online.

Angelina Jolie said:Hey everyone, does anyone know what the deal is with withdrawing winnings from foreign betting sites directly into a US bank account? Ever since things changed back in early 2014, it feels like Levin, the IRS, and the rest of the tax hawks are watching every single cent we pull in. I can't help but think the feds might come down hard on those kinds of transactions. What’s your take?

Honestly, why would it even be illegal to collect money from an overseas bookie, especially now that we're part of the global economy?

Angelina Jolie said:Hey everyone, does anyone know how things stand with withdrawing winnings from offshore sportsbooks directly into a US bank account? Since the tax laws changed back in 2014, the IRS and the rest of the tax authorities see every single cent we pull in. There’s a real risk they could come down hard on those kinds of transactions. What do you guys think?

Online sportsbook -> PayPal -> Wire transfer

🙂

Gerald Jones56 said:I mean, seriously—what’s actually illegal about taking some winnings from an offshore sportsbook? Especially now that we're part of the USA... I don't get the logic behind it.

Well, the law hasn't changed yet—at least, that's what I've heard, anyway. 🤷

casualrider said:Online betting sites... PayPal Social Security payouts...

🙂

Yeah, and that’s exactly why it lands in such a gray area.

casualrider said:Using an online sportsbook -> PayPal -> withdrawing to a bank account

🙂

The catch is you have to wager through half your balance again before you can pull it out, which is a pretty big ask.

Gerald Jones56 said:What exactly is illegal about taking winnings from an overseas sportsbook, especially now that we're part of the USA?

It certainly isn't illegal, but since the authorities can track every single transaction these days, I suspect they’ll eventually find a way to collect their tax cut.
A few days ago, I cashed out a small amount, but once it hit me that everything is being monitored now, I honestly didn't have the guts to withdraw the rest—which is a significantly larger sum.

Jerry Patel4 said:It’s a total joke... they seriously need to just own up to their mistake and pay out. Is there any way to actually force their hand and get my money?

I mean, why would they even bother paying? Every game's got its rules and honestly, I'm fine with how things go... I once had a situation where the odds I bet on—the ones I actually won—suddenly jumped from like 1.35 to 3.30 after the fact. Totally against their interest, right? But hey, people messed up the numbers, so they ended up handing me way more cash than expected... and I took it, no regrets.

What really gets under my skin, though, is how the latest redesign of Bet365 turned the whole site into a buggy mess. Trying to use it on a smartphone is basically impossible at this point... and it's been like this for ages now.

swiftlynx34 said:It isn't illegal, obviously, but since the authorities can track every single transaction now, they might actually bother collecting taxes.
I cashed out some funds a few days ago, but once I realized everything is visible to them, I simply lost the nerve to withdraw the much larger remainder.

Withdrawing via Skrill doesn't require much effort; there’s no real headache involved and it’s quite straightforward. 🙂

If you simply ensure your payouts stay under $5,000, you won't run into any trouble at all, right? 😉

swiftlynx34 said:It’s not illegal, obviously. But since these vultures can see every single transaction now, they might as well start collecting taxes.
I cashed out some money a few days ago, and once I realized everything is being tracked, I lost my nerve to withdraw the rest of it—which is a much larger amount.

They can track transactions on a foreign currency savings account, but they don't see what's happening in a standard checking account.

Arthur Howard said:Oh, they absolutely can. And honestly, FanDuel has been pulling the exact same stunt for quite a while now.

Patrick is hands down the best when it comes to this kind of thing. I saw them offer 76 goals live during a handball match instead of 66—or maybe it was 66 instead of 56—and they went ahead and settled the bet just like that. No questions asked.

As far as I know, Walmart hasn't really done that before (I don't place bets there often enough to be certain).

It depends—you have to catch them mid-mistake!

This past summer, I caught a qualifying basketball game between Canada and Latvia where the total score was listed as 160 for a few minutes. It was a glaring error, obviously, but I jumped on it immediately. By the end of the game, the actual total hit 180, and they actually honored my bet.

Can you believe this? There are only ten minutes left on the clock in a game where they’ve already racked up 57 goals, and yet, they have the audacity to set the margin at 76! I mean, if they somehow manage to squeeze out another 20 goals in the final ten minutes, then I guess I'll have to hand them some serious credit for being absolutely legendary, won't I?

It reminds me of that time in snooker when I thought I'd found a total no-brainer—a sure bet sitting right around 2.40 to 2.50—only to have them refund my entire stake immediately!

swiftlynx34 said:Of course it isn't illegal—but since these vultures can see every single transaction now, they’ll probably find an excuse to tax it.
I cashed out some funds a few days ago, but once I realized everything is visible, I lost my nerve to withdraw the rest—which is a much larger amount.

Don't sweat the taxes—there have been online services for ages, basically functioning like digital banks PayPal or PayPal where you open an account. Almost all international sportsbooks support deposits and withdrawals through these platforms. These services are based in tax havens like Puerto Rico—which is an autonomous territory within the United States—and they are licensed by the US government via the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The key point is that both of these services issue a Visa card linked directly to your account, allowing you to pull cash from any ATM. That way, you have zero contact with domestic banks, other than using their machines. If you really want to stay off the radar entirely, you could just drive over to Canada, Canada, or Canada and withdraw the cash there. Personally, I recommend PayPal. Hope that helps.

Well, it looks like Patrick is tightening the screws on his limits once again!

The odds on this particular pick are sitting at 7🙂

I haven't placed a single bet on DraftKings since they slapped that 7% tax hike on us here in the States.
Is anyone actually still using them? What’s the vibe been like lately?

hollowwolf10 said:You don't need to worry about taxes because there have been online services available for a long time now, much like online banking tools such as Neteller and PayPal. You simply open an account, and all international sportsbooks support deposits and withdrawals through these services. These providers are typically based in tax havens like Puerto Rico, which functions as an autonomous territory within the United Kingdom, and they are licensed by the UK government via the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The important part is that both of these services issue a Visa card linked directly to your account, allowing you to withdraw cash from any ATM. This way, you have zero interaction with local banks, other than using their machines. If you truly want to avoid any connection to domestic banking altogether, you could always just drive over to Canada, Canada, or Canada to withdraw your funds. Personally, I would recommend Neteller. I hope this helps.

I've actually used Neteller from the very beginning, including their card. The issue I ran into was that I deposited xx dollars in foreign currency, but ended up with xxxx dollars. The bastards insisted on paying me out exclusively to my foreign currency account, even though I had made my subsequent deposit via Neteller. Usually, bookmakers pay out to whatever account was used for the most recent deposit.

In the end, I sent them an email requesting to have the funds withdrawn to Neteller instead, and by some miracle, they approved it and sent it there. Since Canada is right next door, I can head over there and withdraw without any fees. The only downside to Neteller is that they limit your daily withdrawals to $500.

I’m thinking about topping up my account at DraftKings. Is it actually okay to fund it directly using a foreign currency credit card? And if I do that, will they let me pull my winnings out via PayPal later on?

I noticed swiftlynx34 mentioned earlier that most sportsbooks insist on paying out to the exact same account used for the initial deposit. So, does that mean my plan above is a bit of a non-starter?

Gerald Jones56 said:I'm about to fund my DraftKings account—can I use a foreign currency card for the deposit, but then switch things up and withdraw via PayPal?

I noticed someone mentioned earlier that most sportsbooks insist on paying out to the exact same account used for deposits. Does that mean my plan won't fly?

From what I know, DraftKings gives you more flexibility with withdrawals—they aren't as rigid about matching the deposit method as FanDuel is.