2009 Malaysian Grand Prix - Sepang (04.05.09)

stormybadger8 said:1. Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes
2. Jarno Trulli Toyota
3. Timo Glock Toyota
4. Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota
5. Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
6. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber
7. Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari
8. Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes
9. Fernando Alonso Renault
10. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber
11. Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota
12. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
13. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
14. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes
15. Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Felipe Massa Ferrari
17. Nelson Piquet Renault
18. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes
19. Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes
20. Sebastien Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari

Is this the lineup for tomorrow, or did the FIA already hand out more penalties? 🤷

1 22 Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes
2 9 Jarno Trulli Toyota
3 15 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault
4 23 Rubens Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes
5 10 Timo Glock Toyota
6 16 Nico Rosberg Williams-Toyota
7 14 Mark Webber RBR-Renault
8 5 Robert Kubica BMW Sauber
9 4 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari
10 7 Fernando Alonso Renault
11 6 Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber
12 17 Kazuki Nakajima Williams-Toyota
13 1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
14 2 Heikki Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes
15 11 Sebastien Bourdais STR-Ferrari
16 3 Felipe Massa Ferrari
18 21 Giancarlo Fisichella Force India-Mercedes
19 20 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes
20 12 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari

What was I saying? Felipe Massa is the best 😬
Lewis Hamilton 🙂
Jenson Button 😲

1 Jenson Button, 2 Jarno Trulli;
3 Timo Glock, 4 Nico Rosberg;
5 Mark Webber, 6 Robert Kubica;
7 Kimi Raikkonen, 8 Rubens Barrichello;
9 Fernando Alonso, 10 Nick Heidfeld;
11 Kazuki Nakajima, 12 Lewis Hamilton;
13 Sebastian Vettel, 14 Heikki Kovalainen;
15 Sebastien Bourdais, 16 Felipe Massa;
17 Nelson Piquet, 18 Giancarlo Fisichella;
19 Adrian Sutil, 20 Sebastien Buemi.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9136.html

Keith Jones19 said:1 Jenson Button, 2 Jarno Trulli;
3 Timo Glock, 4 Nico Rosberg;
5 Mark Webber, 6 Robert Kubica;
7 Kimi Raikkonen, 8 Rubens Barrichello;
9 Fernando Alonso, 10 Nick Heidfeld;
11 Kazuki Nakajima, 12 Lewis Hamilton;
13 Sebastian Vettel, 14 Heikki Kovalainen;
15 Sebastien Bourdais, 16 Felipe Massa;
17 Nelson Piquet, 18 Giancarlo Fisichella;
19 Adrian Sutil, 20 Sebastien Buemi.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9136.html

http://www.formula1.com/results/season/2009/806/6608/

Yeah, alright... and then there's the money too...👍

I was just sitting here looking over the qualifying speed measurements, and it looks like Nico Rosberg has the lowest speed through the finish line. Even in that first run—which is usually when the cars are at their absolute fastest—he’s lagging by about 8-9.3 miles/h slower than the rest.
Hopefully, it's just because they're carrying an extra load of fuel. 😁

Man, if Aki gets a start like this tomorrow, things might actually get interesting, or even better if he nails it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgyWTSXPZ-M

Arthur Doyle70, you aren't wrong about Barrichello and Vettel. But even when you're right, you get two different versions of the results—like what's on the F1 site versus what's in the Telegraph...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...rand-Prix.html

1. Jenson Button (United Kingdom) Brawn - Mercedes
2. Jarno Trulli (Italy) Toyota
3. Timo Glock (Germany) Toyota
4. Nico Rosberg (Germany) Williams - Toyota
5. Mark Webber (Australia) Red Bull Racing - Renault
6. Robert Kubica (Poland) BMW Sauber
7. Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) Ferrari
8. Fernando Alonso (Spain) Renault
9. Rubens Barrichello (Brazil) Brawn - Mercedes
10. Nick Heidfeld (Germany) BMW Sauber
11. Kazuki Nakajima (Japan) Williams - Toyota
12. Lewis Hamilton (United Kingdom) McLaren - Mercedes
13. Sebastian Vettel (Germany) Red Bull Racing - Renault
14. Heikki Kovalainen (Finland) McLaren - Mercedes
15. Sebastien Bourdais (France) Toro Rosso - Ferrari
16. Felipe Massa (Brazil) Ferrari
17. Nelson Piquet (Brazil) Renault
18. Giancarlo Fisichella (Italy) Force India - Mercedes
19. Adrian Sutil (Germany) Force India - Mercedes
20. Sebastien Buemi (Switzerland) Toro Rosso - Ferrari

So you've got Fernando Alonso and Kimi Raikkonen waiting for everyone else... honestly, maybe they'll give them a four-second head start... Jenson Button, Rubens Barrichello, Jarno Trulli, and Robert Kubica will probably close that gap in a heartbeat...
let's go Kimi, let's go Kimi 👍

Keith Jones19 said:Arthur Doyle70, it's not just about whether you count Barrichello and Vettel or not, it's that even when you do, you end up with two different sets of results—like what you see on the official F1 site versus what they're reporting over at the Telegraph...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...rand-Prix.html

1. Jenson Button (United Kingdom) Brawn-Mercedes
2. Jarno Trulli (Italy) Toyota
3. Timo Glock (Germany) Toyota
4. Nico Rosberg (Germany) Williams-Toyota
5. Mark Webber (Australia) Red Bull Racing-Renault
6. Robert Kubica (Poland) BMW Sauber
7. Kimi Raikkonen (Finland) Ferrari
8. Fernando Alonso (Spain) Renault
9. Rubens Barrichello (Brazil) Brawn-Mercedes
10. Nick Heidfeld (Germany) BMW Sauber
11. Kazuki Nakajima (Japan) Williams-Toyota
12. Lewis Hamilton (United Kingdom) McLaren-Mercedes
13. Sebastian Vettel (Germany) Red Bull Racing-Renault
14. Heikki Kovalainen (Finland) McLaren-Mercedes
15. Sebastien Bourdais (France) Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16. Felipe Massa (Brazil) Ferrari
17. Nelson Piquet (Brazil) Renault
18. Giancarlo Fisichella (Italy) Force India-Mercedes
19. Adrian Sutil (Germany) Force India-Mercedes
20. Sebastien Buemi (Switzerland) Toro Rosso-Ferrari

True enough... I completely overlooked that part of it...🙏 👍

Let's take a trip back to Sepang 2006

🙏Fernando Alonso finished in eighth, sitting right there in third🙏 🙏

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYKpo...eature=related

The FIA is definitely going to slap someone with a penalty soon. ☕

Nothing is a sure thing anymore. 🙄

But if you follow the logic, they'll probably nail Sebastian Vettel first, then Rubens, I guess. 😕 Following that, Rubens would be in 3rd, which means he drops down to 8th. 🤔

stormybadger8 said:I mean, the FIA is almost certainly going to hand out another penalty somewhere ☕

nothing feels certain anymore 🙄

But if you follow the logic, they’ll likely penalize Sebastian Vettel first, then move on to Rubens, I suppose 😕 which would drop Rubens down from 3rd to 8th 🤔

That seems right

So Rubens starts in 8th

Either way, watching Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso go at it from the start is going to be a blast, whether they're side-by-side or one ahead of the other. 🙂

I’m really hoping this KERS thing actually does something useful.
My bet? I'm expecting both Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso to jump up at least two spots each before they even clear the first corner—and honestly, that’s being pretty conservative. 🙂

Roger Williams3 said:I'm hoping KERS might actually make a difference here.
I'm realistically expecting Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso to gain at least two spots each by the time they clear the first corner—and honestly, that feels like a conservative estimate.🙂

That seems a bit overly optimistic to me, 🙏

considering we've still got two kilometers to go before we even hit that first turn. 😁

With Kimi Raikkonen and Fernando Alonso sitting in the 1-2 spots,

the exact order doesn't really matter right now. 🙏

Morgan Murphy7 said:guys, if Aki doesn't get a start like this tomorrow, he better get something even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgyWTSXPZ-M

Personally, I’m looking for a start from Kimi like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBX7cHKZ-Z4

Morgan Murphy7 said:Man, if Aki gets a start like that tomorrow, or even better, we are in business.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgyWTSXPZ-M

🙏 🙏 🙏

That Fernando Alonso guy is such an absolute legend... he genuinely blew me away again today.

Look, I'm telling you... if there's any truth to the rumors about some kind of DRS-style upgrade in the works, and assuming they ditch this KERS thing—which, let's be honest, is basically his only real advantage off the line—then we're looking at being right at the top of the podium.

I honestly find myself wondering if anyone else perceives the sheer absurdity of the current landscape, because from where I sit, things feel increasingly disconnected from the actual essence of competition. It’s one thing to witness greatness, but it's quite another to watch a narrative being manufactured in real-time, almost as if the outcome was decided before the engines even fired up on the grid. There's a certain predictable rhythm to it all now that feels less like a sport and more like a choreographed exhibition, and frankly, it's becoming rather exhausting to follow when you actually care about the nuance of driver skill versus pure, unadulterated machinery dominance. One can only hope for a shift back toward genuine unpredictability, though I won't hold my breath given how heavily the scales seem to be tipped these days. kaže:
You’ve gone and gilded yourself just to get rid of him, haven't you?🙏😍

I don't know, I’m just not buying it... honestly, I think Renault will probably go bankrupt before they actually manage to build something decent for the track.🙄

Sleeping beauties. 😉

Don't you dare come at me with those kinds of garbage statements regarding Renault. 😉

They kicked things off without those diffusers and while operating under their own interpretation of the KERS regulations, and honestly, that's exactly why they’re lagging behind now.

I honestly believe Fernando Alonso will squeeze out every single ounce of performance possible from that car until they finally decide to ban the double diffuser, and frankly, I’m just sitting here hoping they throw a bit of chaos into the mix to shuffle up those winners, because let's be real—the gaps between them right now are absolutely minuscule.

hollowhawk412 said:🙏 🙏 🙏

Man, Alonso is such a legend... he absolutely blew me away today.

I'm telling you... if there's any truth to the rumors about a new engine development in the works, and if they finally phase out this KERS system—which, let's be honest, is basically his biggest advantage at the start—then we're looking at total dominance.

You hit the nail on the head. 🙏

Morgan Murphy7 said:you hit the nail on the head 🙏

Honestly, if they hadn't messed with the dampers on the
R25 and R26🙏,

I mean, God only knows why they even touched them—they were declared perfectly legal
and everyone was using them
the R26 would have easily been one of the greatest cars to ever grace a track 🙏

If I recall correctly, those guys took the win in seven out of the first eight races 🙏

The traction control and lateral grip on those Michelin tires were just phenomenal, not to mention their starts and how they handled cornering 🙏
it put them miles ahead of anyone else

and don't even get me started on how they danced through the rain 🙏