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Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
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joined Jan 2012
#1281 ·
neongardener16 said:Windows 7 is the gold standard. I've been running it on two machines for a few months now (beta version, obviously), and Vista is complete garbage.
As for XP, it’s like looking back at childhood—everything was just easy and carefree because I didn't have a single thing to worry about.
Everyone manages somehow, but I wouldn't suggest getting Windows 7 (unless you can find it for free, legally, ha ha) if you don't have some free Linux available.
By the way, what is Internet Explorer? Some kind of baby rattle?

Well, you really went off there. Nice job. Everything is argued out so thoroughly it gives me a headache. 👍

PS. You can quote multiple times in one post; you don't need to make a new post for every single reply. 🙂
Raymond Stewart87 Raymond Stewart87 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1282 ·
Hey everyone, I’m running into a bit of a headache with my Windows 7 setup (RTM 7600.16385)... basically, the installation went super smooth on my HP Compaq 6830s FU 535 ES—which, by the way, I am absolutely loving—but once I booted up Windows 7 and jumped into the Device Manager, I noticed two little yellow exclamation marks sitting under "Other devices." I tried the whole "update driver" routine, but honestly, nothing happened at all... so if anyone happens to have some insight on what those might be or how to fix them, I'd really appreciate it. Cheers
Kate James21 Kate James21 Active Member
77 messages
joined May 2009
#1283 ·
Raymond Stewart87 said:Hey everyone, I'm running into some minor headaches with Windows 7 (RTM 7600.16385). The installation itself went perfectly on my HP Compaq 6830s FU 535 ES laptop—which I’m actually quite happy with—but once I booted up Windows 7 and checked the Device Manager, I noticed two yellow exclamation marks under "Other Devices." I tried running the driver update tool, but absolutely nothing happened... so if anyone has any insight on how to resolve this, please let me know. Cheers.

You just need to install the drivers manually.
Raymond Stewart87 Raymond Stewart87 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1284 ·
Jonathan Morris40 said:you gotta get those drivers installed

Man, how am I even supposed to install drivers if I don't even know what they're for in the first place? Plus, every time I try to run an update, it just tells me there aren't any drivers available for it... does anyone have any actual ideas on what to do here?🙏
And yeah, I've been digging through the add/remove programs section in Windows 7, but I can't find anything at all... does that mean I'm just looking in the wrong spot, or are they just not showing up...😕😕
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
157 messages
joined Apr 2009
#1285 ·
I honestly don't get why everyone is so obsessed with Windows 7 😕 Just yesterday, I had to reinstall XP for a friend because she absolutely couldn't stand this OS. To be honest, neither can I. I'll probably just switch back to XP myself.
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1286 ·
Quote: Mini me
Raymond Stewart87 said:How am I supposed to install drivers when I don't even know what they're for? To make matters worse, the update keeps failing because it says there aren't any drivers available. Anyone else got any ideas?🙏

Check what motherboard you're running and grab the drivers directly from the manufacturer's site. You could try running Everest to check, but if that doesn't work, maybe just pop the side panel off the case and read the model name right off the board.

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Brenda Cooper3 said:I don't get why everyone is so happy with Windows 7. 😕 I had to reinstall XP for a friend yesterday because she just couldn't stand this OS. Honestly, I don't feel much better about it either. I guess I might end up switching back to XP myself.

It’s got its perks, honestly. They managed to iron out a lot of what made Vista such a headache. I guess it really just comes down to what you value. If you're only looking at the interface, then it's purely a matter of taste—whatever OS fits your vibe.
Raymond Stewart87 Raymond Stewart87 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1287 ·
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Thomas Hernandez21 said:First things first, you should probably check exactly which motherboard you're running and just grab the latest drivers directly from the manufacturer's website... that's always the safest bet. If you can't find what you need through Everest, you might have to get a little hands-on and pop the side panel off your case to actually read the model name printed right on the board itself...

I mean, honestly, it’s all because Vista actually brings a ton of solid perks to the table while cutting down on a lot of those old headaches we used to deal with... It really just comes down to what you're looking for, I guess. If you're strictly talking about the aesthetic side of things, then it's purely a matter of personal taste and which interface just clicks with your vibe...

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Raymond Stewart87 said:So, I'm kind of stuck here... I've got no clue how to go about installing these drivers since I don't even really know what they're actually for on my system, and to make things even more frustrating, I'm trying to run an update but it keeps throwing an error at me saying there aren't any drivers available for it... does anyone have any bright ideas or maybe some advice on how to tackle this mess...🙏
And yeah, I’m looking through Add/Remove Programs on Windows 7 and I just can't seem to find them... does that mean I'm totally missing it, or are they just not there at all...😕😕

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Jonathan Morris40 said:You really need to get those drivers installed...

So, like I was saying in my last post, I've got... So, I was just looking over the specs on this old HP Compaq 6830s, and man, it really takes me back... It’s rocking an Intel Core2Duo P8400 running at 2.26GHz, which honestly doesn't sound too bad for a machine from that era, especially with 4GB of RAM split into two 2GB sticks... It's paired with a 17" monitor hitting 1440x900 resolution, and there's a 320 GB SATA drive tucked inside for storage. It comes with Free DOS pre-installed, so you'll definitely need to throw an OS on it if you want to actually do anything useful, but it's got the essentials like a DVD±RW DL drive, a Gigabit Ethernet port, a classic 56k modem, and all the wireless stuff you'd expect—802.11a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, and four USB 2.0 ports... Just feels like one of those solid, reliable workhorses from a different time...
Hey, does anyone happen to know how I can get rid of those two random exclamation points showing up under "Other devices" in my Device Manager...
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
157 messages
joined Apr 2009
#1288 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said:It’s because Vista has plenty of redeeming qualities and they’ve managed to trim down many of its flaws. It really comes down to perspective—if you're just looking at the aesthetics, then it's purely a matter of which OS style suits your taste.

If the hardware is solid and performance holds steady whether you're running XP, Vista, or Windows 7, then looks are pretty much the only thing left to debate, right?
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
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joined Jan 2012
#1289 ·
Brenda Cooper3 said:if the hardware is solid and performance stays the same whether you're running XP, Vista, or Windows 7, then looks are pretty much the only thing left to care about, right?

If the hardware is actually decent (meaning a good CPU and more than 2GB of RAM), then performance definitely isn't going to be the same on XP compared to Windows 7 or Vista. It mostly comes down to the fact that the Truth is, Vista brought much better memory management than XP ever had. If I recall correctly, you mentioned having pretty low RAM, so you can't really judge which is better when Vista and Windows 7 don't have enough memory to work with anyway. For people gaming on a PC, Vista and Windows 7 exist because of the DirectX 10 exclusivity for those OSs; on XP, you just can't fully utilize your graphics cards. Then there's stability... whether you want to admit it or not, Vista is a lot more stable than XP. Even if a BSOD happens, usually it's just 3rd party programs or bad hardware at fault. Networking is handled much better too, and Vista/Windows 7 support IPv6. There's plenty more to it, but I think you get the idea. 🙂
Mark Sanchez3 Mark Sanchez3 Active Member
101 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1290 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said:If you have decent hardware—meaning a solid CPU and at least 2GB of RAM—there is simply no comparison between performance on XP and what you get on Windows 7 or Vista. It basically comes down to the fact that the Truth is, Windows 7 brought much better memory management than XP ever had. If I recall correctly, you mentioned earlier that your RAM is pretty low, so you can't really judge which OS is superior when neither Vista nor Windows 7 has enough resources to actually work with. For gamers using a PC, Vista and Windows 7 exist because of the DirectX 10 exclusivity; on XP, they just can't fully utilize their graphics cards. As for stability... whether you want to admit it or not, Vista is way more stable than XP. Even when you hit a BSOD, in most cases, it's third-party software or faulty hardware at fault. Networking is handled much better too, and both Vista and Windows 7 support IPv6... there’s plenty more where that came from, but I think you get the point. 🙂

this couldn't have been said better
props to you👍
honestly, I find it hard to believe there are still people out there who think XP is better than Vista😁
darkviper7 darkviper7 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1291 ·
Windows 7 is finally at RTM status.
Now we're just sitting around waiting for a cracker to drop 😁
Raymond Lewis4 Raymond Lewis4 Member
11 messages
joined May 2009
#1292 ·
Larry Hayes said:Thanks a million

I'm out of here, catching some Z's, but here's one last thing to send you all off to sleep:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLR-UaPjPw8
🤣

hahahahahaha
Brenda Cooper3 Brenda Cooper3 Active Member
157 messages
joined Apr 2009
#1293 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said:If you have decent hardware—meaning a solid CPU and more than 2GB of RAM—performance won't be comparable between XP and Windows 7 or Vista. It really comes down to the fact that Windows brought much better memory management compared to XP. If I recall correctly, you mentioned your RAM is pretty limited; you can't really judge which OS is superior if Vista and Windows 7 don't have enough memory to work with in the first place. For gamers, the real draw of Vista and Windows 7 is the DirectX 10 exclusivity; on XP, they just can't fully utilize their graphics cards. As for stability... whether you want to admit it or not, Vista is significantly more stable than XP. Even when a BSOD occurs, it's usually due to third-party software or faulty hardware. Networking is also handled much better, and both Vista and Windows 7 support IPv6. There's plenty more to it, but I think you get the point. 🙂

It sounds like you're right. Looks like I'll need to grab a new processor and a bit more memory. I'm struggling regardless of which OS I install; I can't even run a single program comfortably, let alone 'work.' 😂
Taylor Campbell4 Taylor Campbell4 Regular
369 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1294 ·
Thomas Hernandez21 said:If you have solid hardware—I mean a decent processor and more than 2GB of RAM—performance just isn't going to be the same on XP compared to Windows 7 or Vista. It really comes down to the fact that the Truth is, Windows 7 brought much better memory management to the table than XP ever did. If I recall correctly, you mentioned earlier that your RAM is pretty limited; honestly, you can't really judge which OS is better based on that, because neither Vista nor Windows 7 has enough to work with if the memory is that low. For gamers, though, Windows 7 and Vista are the way to go because of DirectX 10 exclusivity—on XP, they just can't push their graphics cards to the limit. As for stability... whether you want to admit it or not, Vista is significantly more stable than XP. Even when a BSOD happens, it’s usually due to third-party software or faulty hardware rather than the system itself. Networking is handled much better too, and both Vista and Windows 7 support IPv6... there's plenty more where that came from, but I think you get the idea. 🙂

I'm just not sure about those "lab condition" tests where Vidijev compared all three systems on a single configuration (one that was perfectly adequate for all of them). In those tests, Vista ended up being the slowest in most tasks—sometimes twice as slow—though I think it was about equal to the others, maybe even slightly faster, when it came to copying files to a disk. While XP and Windows 7 seemed pretty much neck and neck...
I suspect you'll see similar results in other benchmarks online.
It's common knowledge that Vista eats up a massive amount of system resources, whereas Windows 7 handles processes in a completely different, much improved way. It's practically a different approach altogether compared to Vista.

Meanwhile, Linux probably flies through everything. It's a shame I didn't stick with Linux—or at least run a dual boot—back when I was really into it. These days, I've drifted away from that scene and gotten too used to the convenience here and certain little apps that I'm not sure I could find on Linux. (Not to mention that I hear 512 MB of RAM is basically the absolute ceiling needed for the OS itself over there.)
Personally, I think Windows 7 is fine, but Windows always seems to have its own set of quirks. The people who have the best luck are the ones who just reinstall everything every couple of months—it solves the problems, sure, but it's a pretty blunt way to handle things.

I like Windows 7, but it doesn't run quite as fast as I'd like, and it constantly messes around when I try to open folders in Explorer—either it's sluggish or it won't open them at all. There are fixes for that online, but I haven't found the time to dig into it with you yet because it isn't simple—in fact, it's actually quite complicated.

The biggest headache is definitely Explorer. Browsing through files becomes a real struggle. Yet, when I'm browsing from within Word, Opera, Acrobat, or whatever program I happen to be using (you know, clicking "Open" and navigating from there), it works flawlessly.

Plus, all those "cool" new and supposedly practical features in Vista and Windows 7? On my machine, about 80-90% of them are totally useless and just feel like bloat.
neongardener16 neongardener16 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jul 2009
#1295 ·
darkviper7 said:Windows 7 is finally RTM.
Now we just wait for a cracker 😁

There’s a cracker out there, but it’s not legit. Basically, it just cracks W7 7600 as an RC, so the activation expires between April 1st and June 1st, 2010. I guess you really have to wait until October 22, 2009, when Windows 7 officially drops; that’s when actual activation will be possible.

For now, I’d suggest just extending the 30-day trial three times—that should carry you right up to the Windows 7 release. You can find how to extend the 30-day trial on the official Microsoft websites, and it’s totally legal.

To do a program uninstallation, go to Start > Control Panel (view by category), and the fourth icon in the left column is "program uninstallation."
🙏😵
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1296 ·
neongardener16 said:There's a crack out there, but it isn't the real deal. It just tricks Windows 7 7600 into thinking it's an RC, so the activation expires sometime between April and June 2010. I guess you just have to wait until the official release on October 22, 2009, before a real activation can be made.

Yeah... Good luck with that, man.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nbaba/win7.jpg

😉
darkviper7 darkviper7 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1297 ·
From what I can gather, everyone's just waiting on the MSDN folks to get their hands on the Windows 7 downloads and finally release those official RTM keys.
Only once they have those actual keys will the crackers be able to put together a working version.
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1298 ·
Honestly, what can I say? Just take a look at the picture. 😉 It’s not some kind of magic trick, just give it a shot.

HINT: google -> orbit30
darkviper7 darkviper7 Member
25 messages
joined Jan 2008
#1299 ·
He hasn't actually dropped the finished product yet.
He's just unlocking those 6 reams.
But honestly, once those 6 reams pass, that's when the real deal will show up.
You know what, I think I'll just wait another week or two until things really clear up.
Karen Garcia5 Karen Garcia5 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1300 ·
I'm about 99% sure this is the actual RTM. When I went through the activation, I actually got that "Action was successful" Windows popup. But because of that lingering 1% doubt, I haven't set it as my primary OS yet; I've just been running it virtually 🙂

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