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Round 15: Singapore Grand Prix

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fadedpanther4 fadedpanther4 MemberOP
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joined Apr 2007
#1 ·
Melissa Price6 said:I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet...

The guy who holds the title for the biggest disaster during the first night race in NASCAR history is Felipe Massa. The Brazilian was leading until the safety car came out following Piquet's crash. After a massive rush of people headed toward the pits, the Ferrari crew clearly wasn't quite prepared to handle both cars at once. Once Kimi finished his stop, Massa pulled away. But since there wasn't anyone there with a lollipop sign to tell the drivers when it was safe to go, the Brazilian ended up dragging the fuel hose all the way down the pit lane.

🤣 🤣

Written by: Hrvoje Bulešić

The guy is an absolute genius. 🙄🤣
wanderingdriver7 wanderingdriver7 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Hey everyone, The biggest shoutout goes to all the General Motors and Alonso fans out there! I’ve been waiting for an Alonso win with General Motors for what feels like forever, which makes this victory taste so much sweeter. Sure, a little luck played its part, but this was absolutely earned. I just really hope he stays with General Motors; otherwise, things might get pretty messy next season if they can't find a driver who actually fits the bill.
John Bennett4 John Bennett4 Member
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#3 ·
rapidtinker45 said:Look, he said exactly that—so what’s the big issue? It’s not like Lewis Hamilton is out there spouting nonsense to the public just for the sake of it. I mean, sure, maybe he didn't offer that mechanic a shoulder to cry on like Luca mentioned—he might have been busy yelling or throwing things in the garage—but during the press conference, he actually hunched his shoulders and made the statement I laid out. So, let's try to avoid the misinformation moving forward. If you're skeptical, just head over to pitpass.com and read the actual transcripts from the presser yourself.

Lewis Hamilton might ramble sometimes, but at least he’s sincere; he hasn't lost his touch professionally.

As for Massa—if your account of this is accurate—he might want to consider a career in acting. Maybe he can snag an Oscar since winning the championship seems to be out of the question.

He could always play a cocaine smuggler, you know? White powder in the gas tank, speeding across the border... that kind of thing.
lonebison19 lonebison19 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#4 ·
wanderingdriver7 said:Hey everyone—shout out to the General Motors and Alonso fans out there! I’ve been waiting for an Alonso win with General Motors for far too long... which, honestly, just makes this victory taste a little sweeter. Sure, luck played a part—it always does—but they earned this one. I just hope he sticks around at General Motors; otherwise, next season is going to be a total disaster since finding a decent replacement will be impossible.

Welcome!
lonebison19 lonebison19 Member
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#5 ·
John Bennett4 said:Lewis Hamilton might be talking nonsense—but at least he’s being honest—so he hasn't exactly failed at his career.

And Massa—if your take is actually right—he might as well try acting; maybe he can snag an Oscar since winning championships isn't happening.

He could play some cocaine smuggler, you know—white powder in the gas tank, speeding across the border.

Enough, enough... I wasn't looking at it from that angle... Good point!
Timothy Lee11 Timothy Lee11 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Alonso vs. Rosberg🙏

Massa seriously needs to go see a priest or some kind of shaman—I don't even know anymore.
First it was Canada, and now this.🤷

Screw this electronics nonsense—just give him a good smack on the helmet once it's all over.

And what on earth is going on with Kimi?.....
Maybe he’s being haunted by those same gremlins that chased him around at McLaren, who knows.
He just can't seem to get it together.

Anyway, I was watching with two buddies who pull for Ferrari and two others who root for
Mercedes-Benz—they spent the whole time mocking us until they absolutely got wrecked.
wanderingdriver7 wanderingdriver7 Newcomer
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#7 ·
thanks!
lonebison19 lonebison19 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#8 ·
wanderingdriver7 said:thanks!

Don't mention it.
wanderingdriver7 wanderingdriver7 Newcomer
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#9 ·
I honestly don't get what was so legendary about Rosberg's drive (though props to him for the result) when everyone else just got stuck behind Fisic and that total wreck, so naturally, he just pulled away and made up for the penalty he took
lonebison19 lonebison19 Member
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#10 ·
wanderingdriver7 said:I don't see what was so legendary about Rosberg's drive—kudos to him, I guess—when everyone else was stuck behind Fisichella and that absolute wreck of a car; he just pulled away, which naturally offset the penalty he picked up along the way.

I wouldn't go that far!
Jose Anderson14 Jose Anderson14 Member
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joined Oct 2008
#11 ·
wanderingdriver7 said:I honestly don't see what was so brilliant about Rosberg's drive (kudos to him, sure) when everyone else was stuck behind Fisic and that junk car. He just pulled away, and that basically covered the penalty he picked up along the way.

Just a chaotic, unpredictable race by pure chance. I'm not surprised when someone
claws their way to victory from 15th on the grid...☕
Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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joined Jan 2006
#12 ·
Jose Anderson14 said:It was just one of those unpredictable, wild races where anything could happen. I mean, you can't really act shocked when someone
climbs all the way from 15th on the grid to take the win...☕

And honestly, when I look back and realize he was sitting in dead last during lap 14, it’s even more impressive.🙏
wanderingdriver7 wanderingdriver7 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Morgan Murphy7 said:and when I think about how he was actually in 20th place back in lap 14... 🙏


Exactly! We rarely saw stuff like that during the Schumacher era, unless the weather went absolutely crazy. But man, having a 3-second gap per lap while everyone else gets stuck behind a slow driver? That's huge in Formula 1. If Rosberg could have held out for just one more lap, he probably would've walked away with the win.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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joined Nov 2010
#14 ·
wanderingdriver7 said:I’m honestly struggling to see what was so legendary about Rosberg’s drive here. I mean, credit where it's due for the result, but when everyone else is stuck grinding behind Fisichella and that absolute wreck of a car, of course he’s going to pull away. It’s almost like he was just making up for that penalty he picked up earlier.

He simply executed better than anyone else on the track. ☕
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#15 ·
wanderingdriver7 said:Exactly! We didn't see much of that during the Schumacher era unless the weather went absolutely haywire, but I have to say, having a three-second cushion per lap while everyone else gets stuck behind a slow driver is a massive advantage in Formula 1. If Rosberg could have just held on for one more lap, he probably would have walked away with the win.

I think Morgan Murphy7 was actually talking about Alonso 😛
wiredseal7 wiredseal7 Regular
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#16 ·
I can get behind that—Rosberg put on an impressive show, and Alonso was looking pretty sharp once he managed to pull away from truo, if I recall correctly. Later on, Hamilton mentioned he didn't want to take any unnecessary risks, but honestly, it looked like he just couldn't find a way to stick to Rosberg's gearbox. Since we're dealing with Williams and Renault here, this kind of track really exposes the difference between a top-tier F1 driver and someone who's just riding a fast car.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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#17 ·
wiredseal7 said:I can certainly see that point. Rosberg put on an impressive performance, but then again, Alonso looked incredibly sharp once he managed to pull away from truo, if I recall correctly. Later on, Hamilton mentioned he didn't want to take unnecessary risks, though my impression was that he just couldn't quite find a way to stick to Rosberg's gearbox. Since we're talking about Williams and Renault here, this kind of track really highlights the difference between a truly elite F1 driver and someone who is simply being carried by a fast car in other races.

Williams (and likely Renault as well) seems to have excellent mechanical grip, which explains why they were performing so well today and why they usually do well in Monaco. Unlike most other circuits, aerodynamics aren't nearly as decisive here.

It's actually for that very reason that I suspect these two teams will make the biggest leap forward next season. 🙏🙏
rustystag7 rustystag7 Member
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#18 ·
stormybadger8 said:Look, tell me if there’s any Ferrari driver who’s picked up a penalty this year other than today’s mess during the race. And what’s the actual difference between this spin right in front of Sutil compared to the last one? It was just the same messy spin in front of Sutil again, except for the tiny detail that Massa wasn't even in the running for points today anyway. ☕

And think about it—which top-tier driver from the last two seasons, besides Kimi and Massa, hasn't run into some kind of penalty? ☕

I mean, it's pretty obvious. It’s frustrating how it always seems like they’re getting slapped with something, whether it's qualifying or the race itself—Rosberg, Kubica, Heidfeld, Hamilton, Kovalinen. 🤷Seriously, please, try explaining that to me. 🤷

I'm not out here defending McLaren; I'd do the same for BMW, Williams, Red Bull, STR, Force India, Honda, or Toyota—for everyone. Just not for Ferrari.

And I’m certain today won't actually cost Ferrari anything. If McLaren or BMW had pulled that stunt, they would've been banned from at least one race. You just can't cause a situation more dangerous than what happened in the pit lane. ☕

Man, we're all on the same page here, but I'm looking at the actual racing on track, not just listening to hearsay and conspiracy theories...
In my opinion, everything has been fair this season, and I say that because I'm not some crazy fanatic stuck in a bubble; I actually watch the races...

Of course, I'm talking trash about Massa, but would you really want some random underdog to pull something between these overpriced elites?

And no, nothing was handed to Massa. I'm against certain penalties too—like when Hemic collided with Kimi in the pits because it wasn't intentional. 🤷

Sure, the FIA might lean toward Ferrari, that's true, but I don't buy the idea that they're actively trying to screw everyone else over just to help Ferrari. That's just stupid conspiracy stuff...

Again, Massa is doing the best job on track this season. He’s straight-up the fastest, and honestly, it would be an injustice if he didn't take the title. 🤷
rustystag7 rustystag7 Member
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#19 ·
Edward Howard2 said:I’m not really following what you're trying to get at with these posts 🤷
are you saying Alonso didn't earn this win today? 😕
Man, he was the king of two out of the three free practices, cruised through Q2 in qualifying, and the only reason he wasn't sitting at the top after qualifying was just due to some bad luck with the fuel pump. Then today, during those opening laps (before that Pike crash), he sliced past four drivers on track, drove the whole race without making a single mistake, and if anyone deserves a win, it’s him today.
And honestly, if you think Mass's accident made things easier for him, you can just cancel that out with Alonso's bad luck from yesterday.


No, no, don't get me wrong, I think Alonso is the man and I'm stoked he won.....

It's just that it feels like half the fans here are basically rooting *against* someone rather than actually rooting *for* someone...

And honestly, I truly don't get the thrill of winning like that. Take me, for example—I'm a Massa fan, so if Hamilton is looking fast, I'm basically praying his engine blows up just so Massa can pull ahead.

To me, a win doesn't taste sweet if you weren't actually the best.🤷

Truthfully, when I look at who could actually challenge Massa, I'm thinking Hamilton, Kimi, and Kovalainen... maybe even Kubica.

Everyone else is just stuck in cars that are way too slow to be a real threat. Of course, Alonso is the big boss here, and if luck is on his side, he might end up pulling together a decent Renault next season.🙏
Roger Williams3 Roger Williams3 Active Member
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#20 ·
Alonso 👋
Finally hit the podium, and he grabs P1 immediately—what a way to do it!
Absolutely legendary!

Killer race, and Alonso is looking sharper than ever. He took every single opening given to him and drove like an absolute beast (definitely making up for that crappy luck on Saturday)

Rosberg 👍

I really hope Alonso sticks with Renault for 2009. I want to see him back on top of the podium constantly, messing with little Hamilton 😛, and actually having more drivers/teams thrown into the title fight instead of this one-man show

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