The Armada

So what are you even gonna do with a few bucks for a bus pass? 😂 Honestly, I'm just stressed out because I have to cough up $27 for my ticket tomorrow, and besides, taking the subway is way cheaper anyway, so why even bother? It makes zero sense, seriously! 🤷

Everything is great, everything is five stars...

It’s just that whenever I head downtown, there's this group of teenagers (under 19) hanging out in the center—kids you see everywhere, even at high school football games—who just relentlessly chant "we don't give a damn about any of you." God, the internet is something else...👎

Ethan Moore56 said:What else do I need to explain to you?

The banners don't even make it to away games—not just that, but they aren't even from the local crowd in Cleveland, they’re just kept in some single room. Then, for the big rivalry games, you just slap them on the fence to make everything look pretty.🙂🥳

That’s absolute bottom-of-the-barrel stuff🤷 when I saw it happening with the Washington, D.C. crowd; it was right in my face, though thankfully, it doesn't seem to be their style anymore.

Banners don't show up at away games because nobody's there to protect them—honestly, looking at the photos from those trips, it feels like maybe one guy from every neighborhood in Cleveland shows up, which is kind of hilarious. Even the Boys used to blind me with those banners back in the day before they stopped bringing them to away matches; they actually brought some to that game in Florida recently, yet here they are on the forum talking trash about how 80-90% of the fans came from Washington, D.C.—yeah, right... there were at least 15 or 20 different local chapters.

What a joke... 🤣🙏

placidnomad33 said:The ultras don't show up for away games because nobody’s there to back them up. Looking at those photos from the road trips, it looks like one guy from every single neighborhood in Cleveland showed up—it's a joke. Honestly, the Boys lost all credibility for me when they stopped bringing banners to away games. Now they finally brought some stuff to that game in Savannah, yet they have the nerve to complain on this forum about how 80-90% of the crowd came from Washington, D.C. Yeah, right... there were at least 15 or 20 different local chapters represented.

Nobody's there to back them up?🤷

George Roberts2 said:We have complexes? Give me a break—you guys are over here in our thread rambling about things that have absolutely nothing to do with the derby... you absolute morons. You're all "Uber this" and "Uber that"... sure, maybe you managed to pull together the biggest group on the West Coast this season—kudos on the numbers, I guess—but let’s be honest: we handled the derby way better than you did. If the Boys can do it, you should be able to manage too... really. And this whole debate about "neighborhood" banners has been circling the drain for the hundredth time already. What are we supposed to do if your local chapters happen to be based in some outskirts suburb and you drag them along to away games? It's madness, man. Just leave us alone and get ready for the Cup... sending vibes from Cleveland and hoping for ten wins in a row...

Look, if you want to wear number 1, that's your business—I don't care. But if you're going to act like a clown, then actually have a style and stick to it during home derbies, instead of showing up and staring at a sea of rags you only see twice a year.🤷

Ethan Moore56 said:Look, if you want to wear the gear, go for it—that’s your business and I couldn't care less. But if you're going to act like a hardcore, then actually have some damn style and show up like that for the home games too—don't just roll up to the away derbies looking like a pile of laundry you only bother seeing twice a year.🤷

Spot on. Honestly—exactly right.

Look, I’ll say it since nobody else seems brave enough—you guys aren't showing up together. Ever since the guys from the Cleveland crew and those other two groups hung out, everyone's suddenly decided to only wear one single banner. I don't know what kind of "fan philosophy" justifies walking around with just one sign, but personally? It looks terrible. It honestly feels like the group is just too scared to hold up more banners. The stands look way better when every neighborhood group—even if it's just five or six people from a specific part of town—brings their own colors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr_04...e=channel_page
Cleveland is my whole world...rocking since 1987

placidnomad33 said:FACTS!!!

I guess there’s no point in me even writing this since nobody stands up together. Ever since Bribir, River, and those other two groups decided to lay low, everyone seems to think wearing just one main banner is the way to go. I don't know what kind of logic leads people to believe one single sign is enough, but personally, I think it looks pathetic. It feels like the group is just scared of dropping a banner or something. The stands look much better when you have banners from every different crew—you know, from every neighborhood where at least five or six guys are showing up.

Well, look, since there are only about 50 people heading out to away games, I suppose one main banner is sufficient. It's not like the Cohorts are sending 20 people and bringing 21 banners. I suspect if we actually showed up with a standard crowd of maybe 200, the number of banners would naturally increase. As for the Boys, I honestly have no clue what they were going for with that one lone banner, but it seems like they were just trying to minimize the risk of losing gear.

placidnomad33 said:The Boys looked totally off to me once they stopped bringing banners to away games. Now they actually brought some stuff to the game in Cleveland, yet people here keep claiming 80-90% of them came from Washington, D.C. That’s just not true. There were at least 15 to 20 different local chapters back then.

Come on, just list those 15-20 local chapters and banners that were supposedly in Cleveland...😂

Eighty percent of your crowd comes from Washington, D.C. and the surrounding area!

Please, just name those 15 or 20 chapters for us. 🤣

We had people coming from the South, from rural areas, from the Midwest, and even expats.
Everything else was just junk from D.C. and nearby.

Benjamin Cruz29, you're talking nonsense again. I'm telling you, back then we all had that same energy. We were one single unit.

Benjamin Cruz29 said:but it honestly feels like they should have scaled back on all those political signs.

Who gives a damn what you "feel"? Why don't you just pack up and head toward Washington, D.C. then.

Anonymous said:Who cares what you think? Maybe just take it easy on your way to Washington, D.C.

Obviously you, whenever you chime in.☕

Armada😍

Benjamin Cruz29 said:Look, if there are only about 50 people heading out to away games, one big banner does the job. It's not like we have some massive army of 20 people showing up with 21 different signs. I honestly think if we actually showed up with a solid crowd of maybe 200, then yeah, we could afford more banners. As for the Boys, I haven't got a clue what they were thinking with that one specific sign, but it looked like they were just trying to stop the fallen ones from cluttering everything up.

The whole point of having banners is to actually wave them around, not let them sit there gathering dust somewhere. 😉

Ethan Moore56 said:Look, if you want to bring one flag, fine, whatever. But don't be a fraud. Have some actual style and show it during home games too. Don't just roll up to away matches acting big when all you're doing is joining a sea of rags you only see twice a year.🤷

When we head out for away games, we bring the heavy hitters—the core originals. Even if some "satellite" groups tag along (thank God we have plenty of them), we don't have some ridiculous restriction on who can carry banners at away games. If someone wants to carry one, let them. I don't see the issue. We could even carry individual portraits if that's what makes you people feel better...☕ Apparently, you think having a massive wall of banners looks better. Fine. I guess we won't be debating personal taste here.

(just the main crew plus the originals and the hardcore fans)

Honestly, who even cares anymore? We’ve always had our own way of doing things—just standing together behind one single banner, period. That's how it was, that's how it is, and that's how it's gonna stay. I mean, look, the Boys used to have that kind of vibe for a minute, but their leadership and "style" flip-flop every five minutes like they can't make up their minds. Meanwhile, we stick to what we know. Our main banner dates all the way back to 1987 when our group first started, and honestly, that one piece of cloth carries more weight than a hundred of your pathetic little rags that change every season because you guys have zero damn continuity...

bluewalker92 said:Honestly, frankly, who cares what you all think? We have our own way of doing things—standing united behind a single banner. That’s how we’ve always done it, that’s how we do it now, and that’s how it will remain. Even the Yankees used to have a certain consistency once, but their leadership and fan culture shift every five minutes. We stick to our guns; the banner we carry dates back to 1987 when our group was founded, and that legacy carries more weight than a hundred of your pathetic, directionless little crews who lack any sense of continuity...

A dozen of our loyalists are worth more than your entire frontline.

It’s hilarious seeing how much you value those cheap rags when you guys lose dozens of them every single season. I mean, we only torched about twenty of yours, but where are all the other crews that burn them every time you show up somewhere? You’re acting like a total internet hooligan instead of actually being a real fan. You should be heading to the stadium to support the team instead of sitting here picking fights with us online. Peace out, man.

Most of them have never even traveled for an away game... honestly, those Chicago Bulls fans from the local crew have been absolutely wild at least three times in the last decade, but the losers just won't stop... plus, whenever we head up to Mackinac Island, we always manage to snatch at least one of their old-timers before the big game starts. Here’s an old photo of me holding the flag
That’s how it used to be back in the day... I haven't sat in the West Stand since 2006.http://i44.tinypic.com/11ig7lj.jpg

Why don't you show up to the games anymore? If it's too much of a drag to post here, just hit me up in my DMs instead...