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Dealing with lactose intolerance

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velvetwolf9 velvetwolf9 Newcomer
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#41 ·
James Newman4 said:Any food allergy, pollen reaction, or whatever else you’re dealing with—it all stems from somewhere inside. It’s about some internal deficiency tied directly to how we eat, but unfortunately, science is still playing catch-up on that one... 😢

Allergies or intolerances are caused by what's missing in the body. Diet itself isn't the trigger—it can't be. It's more likely down to evolutionary shifts or, well, let's call it genetic inheritance combined with the environment we live in, right? 🙄
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#42 ·
James Newman4 said:So, I’m just sitting here reading and waiting for someone to actually drop a solid suggestion for John Ruiz4, but despite all the "experts" hanging out on this forum, there isn't a single useful word to be found... 😉

Any kind of food allergy or pollen sensitivity—or really any reaction, for that matter—starts from the inside. It's caused by some kind of nutritional deficiency in the body, but unfortunately, we still don't know nearly enough about how that works... 😢

What has actually proven EFFECTIVE—and I've seen this work firsthand with plenty of people dealing with all sorts of allergies—is "cellular nutrition." Honestly, I really think that's the key for John Ruiz4... 🙂

👋

Good grief...

This person isn't ALLERGIC to milk. An allergy is an immune system disorder—you can look right here (side note, when you Google "allergy," this one site pops up first, and the weirdest part is they don't even have an American version, just English and Polish???)—whereas lactose intolerance is just what happens when your body completely lacks a specific enzyme. Her ribosomes simply aren't producing it, for whatever reasons scientists are still trying to figure out. Since it seems pretty obvious you don't really get what an enzyme is, maybe use this other link to educate yourself a bit... though I'd personally suggest Stryer (for the big thinkers and educators out there, it's worth noting there's an older edition translated into American English). You can learn some real biochemical miracles from that...
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#43 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:Oh man, good grief...

Alright, here we go again with the insults. Seriously, I’m asking the mods to step in and do something about this, because if they don't, I guess I’m gonna have to start hitting back way harder than I usually do... 😠

Rachel Brooks63 said:Look, I don't know if people actually get this, but this person isn't exactly "allergic" to milk in the way most folks think about it—it's more like an actual immune system disorder, I guess. It’s a bit different than just having a standard allergy, maybe.

Morning, I guess. 😁
Look, I didn't actually say that John Ruiz4 was allergic to milk or anything like that, I guess... what I was really getting at was just how much things look alike when you consider how certain micronutrients—you know, like vitamins, minerals, enzymes, whatever—are missing from the system. It’s more about those deficiencies, maybe.
I mean, obviously an allergy is basically just your immune system acting out of line, but I guess it’s also more like a symptom—you know? It’s a direct result of those specific internal gaps that are totally unique to every single person. Like, everyone has their own weird little cocktail of deficiencies, and that’s how you end up with one specific type of allergy instead of another. There are probably a million different kinds of allergies out there, or maybe even more, since you have to account for all the different ways those individual deficiencies can mix together... it's kind of a mess, honestly. 😉

Rachel Brooks63 said:So, like, when you look at lactose intolerance, it’s basically just because someone's body is totally missing that one specific enzyme, right? It's not even an allergy or anything, it's just that their ribosomes aren't pumping out the enzyme they need for whatever reason, though I guess scientists are still trying to figure out exactly why that happens. Honestly, you can learn some pretty wild stuff about how biochemistry actually works if you dig deep enough into it... it's kind of crazy, really.

So, I guess those reasons you’re bringing up—the ones people are still trying to wrap their heads around—are actually already being tackled in certain nutrition circles through this whole "cellular nutrition" thing, but honestly, that doesn't exactly sit well with Big Pharma. It’s like, they just constantly deny the facts or just bury their heads in the sand because, well, since pharmaceutical giants basically bankroll our entire healthcare system and medical industry, it isn't exactly hard to figure out why they won't let anyone talk about this stuff in mainstream medical circles... maybe. 😉

I mean, the whole logical way you look at it is that if people are missing certain enzymes in their system, they can just get them back—like, in those perfect ratios alongside all the right vitamins and minerals—by sticking to a cellular diet. Then the body basically just heals itself and fixes its own issues, which I guess is true since I’ve seen plenty of examples of that happening, whether you choose to believe me or not. And honestly, there are a ton of people way smarter than both of us looking into all this stuff, so I suppose there's really no point in wasting my breath talking about it... 🙂
If you’re sitting there doubting everything I say about those people, I mean, honestly, just go ahead and check out their supposed "expertise" for yourself. It's fine. But personally, I don't have any issues at all with this one guy—I've actually met him myself, so I know he's the real deal—and he's one of the few I trust without any hesitation:

So, I was just falling down this massive rabbit hole reading through this research paper from UCLA about how certain things might actually help with some medical issues, and honestly, my brain is kind of fried now. It’s one of those super dense academic deep dives where they go on and on about metabolic stuff and how different nutrients interact with our systems, which sounds incredibly boring until you realize how much it actually matters for regular people. I guess what they're getting at is that there's this whole complex dance happening inside us, involving everything from insulin sensitivity to how we process fats, and it's not nearly as simple as just "eat less, move more" like everyone tells you. It's kind of wild when you think about it, because most of us just go through life without a clue about the cellular level chaos happening under our skin, right? They're talking about these specific pathways—way too many acronyms for me to keep track of without a coffee in hand—but basically, it's all about how we can potentially tweak our biology through diet or other interventions. I mean, maybe it's revolutionary, or maybe it's just more complicated science that won't see the light of day for another decade, who knows? But it definitely makes you wonder if the standard American diet is basically just a slow-motion train wreck for our metabolism. Anyway, I could probably ramble about this for hours, but I'll stop before I lose you guys entirely. Just some food for thought, I guess.
dustypilot2 dustypilot2 Newcomer
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#44 ·
Betty Rivera14 said:Since we are already discussing health concerns 😉, Lulu—did you know that hair dyes can actually be carcinogenic? 😁

I am aware of that—but I also know that humans were designed to walk rather than spend their lives riding the subway, yet I will still take the occasional ride when needed.😁

However, I have no intention of living recklessly like some stereotype; I intend to live like a true American. If I ever face a diagnosis like cancer, at least I will know it was fate playing its hand rather than my own poor choices.😁 😁

(Please, I ask that we refrain from any religious commentary🙄).🙂
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#45 ·
velvetwolf9 said:allergies or intolerances are basically just caused by what your body is lacking, so it’s not really something you can blame on diet, it’s more about evolutionary development or, I don't know, maybe (!) genetics and the environment we're stuck in, right? 🙄

I mean, look, your take probably comes from the info you've got, and I'm not really trying to pick a fight with you or anything, I guess I'll just try to explain where I'm coming from and add a few things to the mix:

If you ask me, here's how chronic diseases actually stack up:
1) what you eat and how you eat it
2) how you handle stress
3) being too lazy and not moving enough
4) your genetic makeup

So, yeah, if you want to trigger some sort of "genetic predisposition," you pretty much have to ignore those first three factors, which—let's be honest—is exactly what most people do... 😢

Diet is always the big one, but the other stuff matters too, I suppose... food has never been this processed or garbage as it is today, and I honestly think that because our diet is so bad, we aren't getting enough of those essential micronutrients EVERY SINGLE DAY that the body actually needs to function normally and stay healthy...
So, the real issue is the stuff we're NOT getting from our food... 🙂
(and I guess the most obvious "genetic" link is just everyone sitting at the same table together, eating the exact same food their parents ate, you know? 😁

The Big Pharma crowd uses drugs to just mask the symptoms of a disease—which is kind of their whole point, anyway—instead of fixing the actual cause, which is why they never truly solve the health crisis, and honestly, solving it isn't even their goal because then they'd lose their steady stream of customers...
People, seriously, you guys need to WAKE UP and realize what's going on... 🙄
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#46 ·
John Ruiz4 said:Yeah, I eat yogurt too and it doesn't bother me at all. It's just that only Vindijin brands don't have added milk sugar in them, whereas some other yogurts definitely do.🙂

I mean, maybe it isn't even the lactose bothering you, but like, who knows? Could be something else entirely, I guess. 😕 😉

I actually know people who couldn't even look at milk without feeling sick, but now they drink it like it's water... though honestly, that’s probably a bit harder to explain than just experiencing it for yourself. 🙂
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active Member
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#47 ·
James Newman4 said:I assume you're just working with the info you have, so I won't try to argue with your perspective. I'll just attempt to clarify my own stance, which leads me to this:

The drivers behind chronic illness follow this hierarchy:
1) Diet and eating habits
2) Stress management
3) Lack of physical activity
4) Genetics

So, I guess if someone wants to trigger their "genetic predisposition," they basically just have to ignore the first three factors—which happens more often than you'd think... 😢

Diet is always the primary factor, but the others aren't exactly trivial either. Honestly, food has never been this low-quality or processed as it is today. I’d argue that because of poor nutrition, we aren't getting enough essential micronutrients EVERY SINGLE DAY that the body actually needs to function and stay healthy...
Essentially, the issue is what we're MISSING from our diet... 🙂
(And maybe the most obvious "genetic" link is simply sitting at the same table together—what parents eat is exactly what their kids end up eating.) 😁

Big Pharma uses medication to mask symptoms—that's literally the point—rather than addressing the root causes. That’s why they never truly "solve" health issues. In fact, solving them isn't even the goal, because then they'd lose a steady stream of customers...
People, seriously, WAKE UP and realize what's happening... 🙄

Everything you said is true. 👍
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#48 ·
James Newman4 said:The logical way to look at it is that people who are missing certain enzymes just need to get them back into their system—you know, in those perfect ratios alongside vitamins and minerals—by sticking to a cellular diet...

So, about this whole "cellular diet" thing you’ve got going on... (though honestly, you still haven't explained to me what else there even *is* besides cellular—like, what, an extra-cellular diet? Non-organic? Intracellular? lol) ...you people... You gotta be kidding me... Lactase? Okay, sure, that makes sense... but hey, why stop there? Might as well throw in a whole bunch of other enzymes whose absence causes all sorts of issues while you're at it. I bet there are biochemists out there who could list off every single digestive enzyme deficiency that ends up triggering mental health struggles or developmental delays—so just toss those into the mix too... I'm really thinking about getting into a more consistent diet... just something steady that actually sticks...Look... This... I mean, just throw those enzymes in there already—save some lives and save the government a massive amount of money while you're at it...

I mean, if "stationary nutrition" is really that powerful...
northernskipper41 northernskipper41 Member
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#49 ·
Man, what "chronic" reasons?

Look at the Eskimo
their bodies don't even produce lactase or sucrase—they can't handle dairy or basic sugar.
So, the takeaway is that the body is actually a pretty damn rational system.
They live on a diet that's basically 50% fat and saturated fatty acids, yet they aren't dropping dead from heart attacks for the usual reasons (though lately, they probably are just because of all the junk food hitting the market).

These reasons go back 6,000 years.

I’m still sticking to my guns: her ancestors were Attila the Hun.
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#50 ·
northernskipper41 said:maybe take a look at the very first post you made in this thread before jumping in

... No, there are also milk products that are more nutritionally dense (higher energy content or whatever...) and don't contain that sugar some people find problematic....
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I’m not going to quote everything here. Just tell me, what exactly are these foods that are supposedly way more valuable than milk while having an equally balanced profile? Dry matter??? Please, you can get as much dry matter as you want from hay if that's your thing. Honestly, you have this incredible talent for reading things I never even said, and this is like the second time now... just try reading a little closer next time. It’s not like I ever claimed a cat should be fed nothing but cow's milk, especially kittens. For that matter, my cat actually has kittens right now, and she’s nursing them herself. Even if milk isn't the "perfect" food, she doesn't know any better because—according to your logic—she's just a cat, so she doesn't grasp these nuances...
Cats drink cow's milk, and most animals will grab at it if they can get their hands on it, so milk is a good food, except for those with certain sensitivities. I feel like I'm repeating myself for the third time now. So, go ahead, be a genius and tell me which food is more balanced than milk, since you're so convinced there are plenty out there...
northernskipper41 northernskipper41 Member
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#51 ·
driftinggull13 said:I'm not gonna quote everyone. What food is actually more nutritionally balanced than milk? Dry matter??? You can find as much of that as you want in hay. Look, you’re an absolute pro at misreading everything I say, and this is the second time now. Try reading closer. Nobody ever said cats should be fed nothing but cow's milk, especially kittens. For the record, my cat just had kittens and she's nursing them herself. Even if milk isn't the best stuff, she doesn't know any better because (according to your logic) a cat is just a cat and doesn't get it.
Cats drink cow's milk, most animals drink cow's milk if they can get to it, so cow's milk is a good food except for people with flaws. I feel like I'm repeating myself for the third time here. Go ahead, tell me which food is more balanced than milk since you claim there are plenty of them.

cream is way higher in energy than milk
If you're such a precise reader, I don't get how you missed that—I never said there were foods with a more balanced composition, quite the opposite.

You really are a special kind of genius calling people with adult lactose intolerance "flawed," especially after everything that was written right here.

Explaining to you exactly what nutritional gaps you get from living solely on milk as an adult... honestly, I don't have the energy, and it's not even the point of this thread.
Kid, kittens mostly just lie around and sleep, which should be enough reason for you to use that brain of yours—which apparently runs at full capacity even when you're sleeping.

You actually think your cat has some little tube connecting her digestive tract to her nipples just so the kittens can nurse?
Just buy her some actual food. 🙂
northernskipper41 northernskipper41 Member
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#52 ·
northernskipper41 said:Nah, there are actually dairy products that are more nutrient-dense (higher dry matter, etc.) that don't even have that sugar people complain about.

man, you're being dense. It’s all right there in the text, plus everything Hippocrates ever said.

If you honestly believe milk can be a complete meal for an adult, I'm not even gonna waste my breath trying to change your mind.
people are just scavengers.
milk is primarily designed to feed offspring during their earliest stages—you can tell just by looking at its composition and the physiology of an infant, or Mladun.

If you want to play games, go ahead and write down exactly which nutritional requirements of an adult human are actually met by milk.

I seriously don't know how you explain to a pumpkin that the earth is round when all they see out their window is flat ground.
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
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#53 ·
northernskipper41 said:cream is way more energy-dense than milk
if you’re actually reading this stuff as closely as you claim, I have no idea how you missed my point... I never said it had a more balanced nutritional profile, quite the opposite, actually...

honestly, you’re a total piece of work if you think calling people who lack lactase as adults having a "defect" is okay, especially after everything that’s been laid out here...

I really don't have the patience to sit here and explain to you which specific nutrients an adult misses out on by relying exclusively on milk, and besides, that’s not even what we’re talking about right now...
look, kid, the youth are mostly just lying around sleeping, and that should be reason enough for you to use that brain of yours, which apparently runs at full throttle even while you're dreaming...

you seriously think your cat has some little biological tube connecting its digestive tract to a nipple just so kittens can nurse?
just go buy some cat food 🙂

Sugar and fat have an even higher caloric density than cream, but who even cares about energy density right now? I’m talking about balance and the variety of nutrients inside it. Who on earth decided that an adult human, or a cat, or any other animal needs to survive solely on milk? That’s just a figment of your imagination. Half of the stuff you wrote above wasn't even said by anyone else in this thread. You aren't even arguing with me anymore, you're basically arguing with your own premises and then fighting against them... it’s a total monologue, you might as well go talk to a mirror instead...
Again, try finding me a food that's as nutritionally balanced as milk.
Furthermore, if a young child doesn't need anything besides milk regardless of their lifestyle, that seems like a pretty solid indicator of the food's quality to me. And yeah, I'll stand by it—that people have a "defect"—because a massive portion of the population on this planet doesn't have that "flaw." It feels much more relevant to look at the vast majority rather than focusing on the specifics of Eskimos or some other niche group with unique developmental paths. Regardless, it doesn't change the facts...
Third time's a charm: find me a food with a composition as balanced and high-quality as milk, you absolute demagogue. I REPEAT: BALANCED AND HIGH-QUALITY, NOT MORE ENERGY-DENSE.🙂
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#54 ·
James Newman4 said:blablablabla

Is this our old pal Conor McGregor hiding behind a new username? 🤔
Should we place some bets on how long he lasts before getting banned?
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#55 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Is this our buddy Conor McGregor posting under a fake name now? 🤔
Should we place bets on how long it takes before he gets banned?

you're late... we figured that out a long time ago...
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#56 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:You're late to the party... we established that ages ago...

It’s truly tragic! I simply don't spend nearly enough time on Reddit lately—I feel like all the vital intel is slipping right through my fingers...
I suppose it is finally time to perform a ritual suicide (to quote Rachel Brooks63).
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#57 ·
nimbledriver81 said:I don't spend nearly enough time on Reddit

Man, when THAT actually happens, then you know you're really in trouble...

and thanks for the quote...
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#58 ·
talia said:Everything you just said is actually true, I mean, what you wrote 👍

thanks, thanks .. 👋

"and a broken watch shows the exact time twice a day" 😁
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#59 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:Oh, so in this "National School Lunch Program" of yours (though I’m still waiting on an answer for what other kind of nutrition exists besides school lunch: non-school? non-organic? intracellular?), you guys give them lactase? Well, that actually makes sense... hey, why don't you just throw in a whole bunch of other enzymes whose absence causes all sorts of issues, while you're at it. I know some biochemists who can list off every digestive enzyme that, if missing, leads to mental health struggles or developmental delays, so maybe just toss those into the National School Lunch Program too. Look at this, then just add those enzymes, save people, and save the government some money...

I mean, if "cellular nutrition" is really that powerful...

if your reactions weren't so hilarious, they might actually be stupid.. 😁

clapping—for the 101st time.. 😎

Food is just one part of nutrition. There's a massive difference between eating food and achieving cellular nutrition. Food is just what we put in our mouths, whereas cellular nutrition is what actually reaches the cells in your body.

What trips a lot of people up is the fact that you can't ever be totally sure the stuff you're eating actually makes it to your cells to nourish them. If your body is dealing with stress, illness, burnout, chemicals, meds, or if you're using alcohol, caffeine, or nicotine, your cells are probably staying hungry. It’s wild how you can overeat and gain weight while your cells are basically starving. It's crazy that even today, despite having more than enough food, we have more diseases than ever before in history. Why? Because there's a huge gap between feeding your mouth and feeding your cells.

Until your cells are healthy, you aren't going to be healthy either! The secret to actual health and good nutrition lies in making sure your body's cells (muscle cells, brain cells, heart cells...) are properly and fully nourished.

It isn't just about what you eat, but whether your body can digest it, absorb it, and most importantly, assimilate it at the cellular level! The trick to this miracle is that this food is designed, formulated, and prepared specifically to FEED YOUR CELLS! And once your cells get the right fuel—you'll feel some pretty amazing changes in your health.

With cellular nutrition, we've taken food science and added micronutrient science to the mix.

The body needs plenty of food every day. Proteins, carbs, fats—those are measured in decagrams and grams. But for life itself, the body VITALY AND NECESSARILY needs nutrients measured in thousands or millions of grams—every single day. Vitamins (even the name “vita” tells you they're essential for life), and trace minerals like iron, zinc, chromium, and selenium. We have to KEEP UP the process of cellular nutrition—the process of healing the body and providing complete, total nourishment by ensuring our bodies get micro-nutrients every day!

It’s not just about tossing in a random vitamin or mineral here and there whenever we feel like it (like, oh, a little Vitamin C here, a bit of calcium, iron, or beta-carotene there). That's just throwing money away without seeing any real results. This is precise science. Vitamins and minerals have to be in their natural forms, they have to be natural equivalents, and they have to be balanced, bioavailable, and able to be assimilated at the cellular level!

get it? .. 😉
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#60 ·
James Newman4 said:The secret to this whole thing—the real magic—is that it’s food specifically designed, formulated, and crafted to actually FEED YOUR CELLS! And look, once your cells start getting the right fuel—I mean, actual nourishment—you’re going to feel these absolutely staggering shifts in your overall health.

Oh, please. Seriously? If I may be so bold as to ask—what exactly are we feeding instead? Our neighbor's pet parrot?

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