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Dealing with lactose intolerance

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James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#81 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:Look, it’s honestly just kind of sad that you don't seem to get it, I guess... like, the dietary supplements you're out here peddling really don't have any actual connection or impact whatsoever on someone's metabolic disorder when that whole thing is basically just caused by a missing enzyme in their system. It's just not how it works, maybe?
It’s honestly kind of sad, isn't it? Like, we’ve been beating this drum for three days straight now and I guess it just isn't clicking for you, or maybe you're just choosing not to get it.

It’s honestly kind of sad that after being hit with all that info on cellular nutrition, you still don't get that this isn't just some random supplement. I mean, it’s actual FOOD. You can totally use it as a meal replacement—and we all know what a real meal is supposed to actually consist of—and honestly, it’s way more nutrient-dense and high-quality than pretty much any meal you could whip up for yourself in your own kitchen... I guess. 🙂

Look, if you want to actually wrap your head around this, you might need to be a little less closed-minded, I guess. You really ought to try stretching those brain muscles—assuming there's anything left in there to work with—instead of just wasting all your energy trying to deny actual facts with these blunt, mindless comments that are, honestly, just kind of hilarious. 😁

And yeah, I mean, cellular nutrition actually covers all the bases—all those micro and macro nutrients, including those enzymes you're always obsessing over... and honestly, most metabolic issues probably just stem from missing one thing or another anyway (but hey, I'm sure you could explain that way better than I ever could, right?) 😁 Look, I’m just saying that cellular nutrition is really the only way to actually fix things, and honestly, my claims—even if you guys don't want to hear them—are backed up by tons of people who have actually seen the results for themselves through cellular nutrition. There are so many of them out there. Plus, this whole thing is rooted in work coming out of UCLA, which is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to nutrition research and how it hits your health, not to mention the actual experts behind all that science... but I guess I don't even need to start listing those names again. 🙂

Some people just get it right away, I guess... others take their sweet time catching on... and then there are those folks who never figure it out at all. 😁
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#82 ·
James Newman4 said:And yeah, cellular nutrition includes all the micro and macro nutrients—including those enzymes you love talking about so much.

WELL, YOU COULD HAVE MENTIONED THAT EARLIER????? I asked you three times if there were actually enzymes in that nutrition of yours... three separate times!!!!!!!

So there are enzymes? How great is that...

Which ones? Oh man, I'm just dying to know!!! Is insulin in there too? Or maybe cobalamin?

Is there anything else besides lactase, which treats some metabolic disorder?
Like, what about phenylalanine hydroxylase... maybe then you could start distributing your supplements to psychiatric hospitals and actually help the poor souls suffering from PKU?
Steven Kelly152 Steven Kelly152 Newcomer
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#83 ·
James Newman4 said:If you’re actually doubting the info I’m getting from these guys, go ahead and verify their "expertise" for yourself. This is just one expert I trust blindly (someone I’ve actually met in person):

http://www.cure.med.ucla.edu/PDF/Heber.pdf

Look, if you actually understood the science you keep hiding behind, you’d realize one very important thing, buddy: in actual science, there is no such thing as unconditional belief. You’d know that too if you had even a shred of common sense between your ears.

We idiots actually ask questions and expect coherent answers, instead of getting those mindless copy-paste messages from Herbalife and their little apostles—people who probably don't even know what a cell is, yet feel qualified to lecture everyone on cellular nutrition.
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#84 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:ARE YOU JUST NOW TELLING ME THIS????? I asked you three times if there were enzymes in that diet of yours, three separate times!!!!!!!

So there are enzymes? Well, that's just great...

Which ones? Oh, I'm just dying to know!!! Is insulin in there too? How about cobalamin?

Is there anything else besides lactase used to treat metabolic disorders?
Say, how about phenylalanine hydroxylase—maybe then you could start distributing your supplements to psychiatric hospitals and actually cure those poor souls suffering from phenylketonuria?


Ugh! Honestly, Rachel Brooks63! Don't be so rude, James Newman4 doesn't understand what you're getting at!
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#85 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:Look, I know. I just want him to admit it himself, or to trip over one of those trick questions and dig his own grave...
And you too, you can't keep spilling all the secrets!


🙂I won't do it anymore, I promise!

Maybe their soy is processed to be Phe-free, so it wouldn't bother anyone with PKU.😁
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#86 ·
Sarah Gomez52 said:Look, buddy, nobody is out here arguing that what you eat doesn't play a massive role in your health, or that most bodily issues don't stem from a garbage diet. That’s just common sense. But at the same time, you and the rest of these "healthy food" peddlers and healing powder salesmen are basically just trying to hustle people who can't tell fact from fiction—or worse, people who are absolutely desperate because they or their loved ones are dealing with some serious illness. You take advantage of that desperation to sell them stuff at premium prices that probably just has a slightly stronger placebo effect than anything else on the shelf.

The whole thing just boils down to being instinctively skeptical of anyone peddling these kinds of supplements, you know? Especially when you run into someone who thinks they're some kind of expert on diet and metabolism, but then they immediately expose how little they actually know by acting all arrogant and throwing around insults like calling people "stupid" just to cover their own tracks.

And yeah, don't even sweat it, I'm not gonna end up out of a job or anything, but you? You’ll probably lose your reputation pretty fast, though I guess that doesn't really bother you, does it? You just sitting there with your thick skin and your fat John, right? 😁

I get what you're trying to say, I really do, and I totally get being cautious or playing defense when it comes to health stuff, but honestly, this has gone way beyond just being careful. It’s like, there’s a massive difference between being skeptical and just flat-out refusing to look at any facts I lay out. You guys—and I mean all of you, though some of you are worse than others—just won't acknowledge a single thing I say. Not even the explanations from top-tier experts, which is wild. You aren't even attempting to grasp the basic concept behind why these kinds of health results are actually possible, let alone realizing that you couldn't even dream of seeing these kinds of improvements in your wildest, most optimistic fantasies right now. 🙂

Honestly, I’m not really feeling those types of people either, you know? Like, I just can't stand folks who come around only because they want to push some product or flip something for a quick buck without having the slightest clue what they're actually talking about... I guess I just don't vibe with that kind of empty hustle. 😢

Look, I’m not out here trying to sell stuff to people who can't read, if that's what you're thinking. It's more about shaking up the mindset of these so-called "experts"—you know, the highly educated crowd who are basically trapped in a cage of their own making. They've got this narrow little bubble of knowledge they live in, and whenever someone brings them a new insight that totally flips everything they learned back in grad school on its head, they just shut down. It doesn't "make sense" to them because it threatens their ego and their whole way of making a living, I guess. It's more about changing minds than anything else.

Look, having an open mind is a pretty huge deal when you're dealing with people like you, and I honestly think there's so much more you could pick up regarding nutrition and metabolism if you just looked around, but maybe it's just that massive ego of yours getting in the way. It’s like, you're so wrapped up in your own status that you can't even bring yourself to listen to someone who doesn't carry quite as big of a title as you do, I guess.
Look, I’m learning from the absolute best in this field—and I mean that, so please don't come for me—the real heavy hitters who are basically the alpha and omega of this whole thing. These are the people actually flipping the script on the entire health philosophy that mainstream medicine and Big Pharma constantly shove down our throats just to profit off everyone's misery. It’s a massive shift, though, and honestly, it takes time. It’s taken like twenty-five years just to get people talking about this stuff out loud without being terrified of getting sanctioned or having to go to war with Congress, the FDA, and the pharmaceutical mafia...

Look, at the end of the day, you can't argue with the results, and honestly, that’s exactly what pushed me to actually dig deeper into all this stuff—to go places I’d never been, see things I’d never laid eyes on, and meet people I’d never even crossed paths with before... and I mean, as much as anyone might be skeptical (and trust me, I was incredibly skeptical myself), you just can't look at all these facts and decide to close your eyes and talk trash about it... I guess I’ve heard this exact same line of reasoning from plenty of other folks who were just like you, thinking the same way you are right now... and there really is only one way to actually start believing the stuff I'm saying here—you just have to go out and prove it to yourself... because, you know, a picture is worth a thousand words, and once you feel something shifting inside your own body, no amount of talk or opinions from a million different people is ever going to change that. 🙂

I mean, look, plenty of people are out there seeing actual changes happen right in front of them, even if they don't really wrap their heads around why it’s happening. Honestly, my own obsession with actually figuring out the "why" behind it all was strong enough that I decided to just put in the work, spend the time, and dig through all this deep-dive stuff that most folks probably wouldn't bother with... I guess. People always seem to be looking for some kind of easy, plug-and-play shortcut, but my way of doing things isn't exactly simple or straightforward. I tend to get way too sucked into these massive debates and end up wandering into territory where I might not even be an absolute expert, so I suppose you guys shouldn't be too surprised if you find a few mistakes here and there while you're picking through my logic.

I get that I’m probably not blowing anyone away here—and honestly, maybe I would if I actually introduced myself as a MD, but since you guys approach things the way you do, you aren't exactly doing much to impress me either (which, I guess, is kind of a bummer because I'd prefer it if it were the other way around). And when I used the word "stupid," I was just being ironic about people who refuse to listen to any kind of scientific or logical explanation, no matter how clear it is... 😉
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#87 ·
Sarah Gomez52 said:maybe their soy has protein without any Phe, so it wouldn't be an issue for people with phenylketonuria😁

but honestly, if that soy is actually good, it should be healthy for EVERYONE—like, everyone on the planet. I WANT MY PHENYLALANINE!!! If I don't get my daily dose of Phe, I seriously lose it!!!

man, if there's no phe, then I'm definitely not buying Mac's shakes😢
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#88 ·
James Newman4 said:


First off, you haven't actually provided any expert insights here; you just copy-pasted bits from various flyers and websites.
As for the expertise of those distinguished gentlemen you're citing, I won't even go there...
But even so, UCLA isn't the only major center specializing in nutrition.

You claim you're learning and following blindly—it certainly shows. It seems your strongest subject is transcription. 😁
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#89 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:So, apparently soy is supposed to be healthy for absolutely everything under the sun. Well, I don't care about that—I NEED MY PHENYLALANINE!!! If I don't get my daily dose of phe, I honestly lose my mind!!!

If there's no phe in it, I'm passing on Mac's shakes. 😢

Look, there's Phe available for you. With HL soy, you're basically feeding your cells exactly what they need on demand. If you need insulin, you get it. If you need Phe, you get that too. And if Phe is an issue for you, HL soy is smart enough to help you flush it right out.
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#90 ·
Susan Gomez33 said:If you actually knew anything about the science you're constantly throwing around, you might realize one pretty huge thing, buddy—in actual science, there’s no such thing as unconditional belief, and honestly, you’d probably figure that out too if you had even a tiny bit of sense behind those ears of yours.

Look, we idiots ask questions because we actually want some coherent answers, not just a bunch of copy-pasted Herbalife propaganda from their little apostles who probably don't even know what a cell is, yet they sure act like experts on cellular nutrition.

Appreciate the free assessment regarding how much brain matter I’ve got rattling around between my ears, but I honestly think I’m packing a little more than you’re giving me credit for... 😁

The science you're talking about—which I'm pretty sure you're actually familiar with—is mostly just focused on diseases and how meds work, right? And honestly, the way they function is pretty much common knowledge at this point. I mean, once a new drug hits the market, they kind of make sure people don't know *too* much about it, because if everyone actually understood the full picture, who would bother using it? You know what I mean? It’s like that whole thing where they want to keep the details under wraps so they can keep things moving... I guess. 😉
I mean, who would actually swallow any kind of pill if they truly understood the absolute mess that follows? Like, if you knew all the nasty side effects your body would be forced to deal with just to fix one single little issue... man, I don't think anyone would touch it. But then again, I guess most people don't even realize it, and honestly, maybe even the folks who cooked up the damn medicine haven't figured out the full extent of the damage yet, so they aren't exactly being warned about all that chaos either. 😁

Look, maybe I’m not exactly some high-level expert who can give you a perfect, textbook answer to every single thing you throw at me, so I guess that's why I'm constantly digging through everything I can get my hands on just to find some info... but honestly, that doesn't make what I'm saying any less valid or useful. You're probably sitting there wondering why I bother, right?

Look, I mean, you’ve got all these people out there who basically live and breathe this stuff—people who get paid handsomely to obsess over it, folks who've dedicated their entire lives to the grind and actually carry some serious weight in the scientific community (and honestly, if you dig a little, you can see they really do know their stuff)... but even then, all those fancy titles and big-name reputations wouldn't do much to impress me, I guess, if I hadn't personally witnessed that the whole thing ACTUALLY WORKS. For me, at the end of the day, it's just the results that matter most, and that's the only reason I can "unconditionally believe" in anything, even though I'm always hunting for some kind of logical explanation behind it all. 🙂

Yeah, I’m pretty much the same way, always asking questions and just trying to dig up as many answers as I can get my hands on... and honestly, it’s those exact answers that keep pushing me to keep learning and actually wrap my head around everything more and more every single day. I guess you could say I’m developing this kind of "unconditional trust" in the process, bit by bit, every day. 😉

So, Dr. Louis Ignarro is heading over to the States this July, and I’m planning on catching his lecture. He’s going to be talking about actual solutions—real protection for heart disease patients, who, let's face it, are basically the most vulnerable group on the planet right now since every other death is related to heart issues. Once that lecture wraps up and all the top-tier experts in the field have had their say, things aren't gonna be the same anymore. Honestly, it’s probably going to completely flip the way you think about everything.

If anyone's actually interested in this, you could probably qualify for the whole thing. I mean, all the MDs and specialists are getting some kind of special training and VIP accommodations at the lecture, so if that sounds like your kind of deal, just hit me up and I can try to point you in the right direction with more specific details... more info on that here:

Check this out: http://www.nrg-fit.com/luis_ignnaro.asp

So, I was just scrolling through this page about Niteworks over at weightlossline.com—you know, that heart health stuff—and it really got me thinking about how much we actually know about what we're putting in our bodies. It’s kind of wild when you dive into the science behind it all. The whole thing basically revolves around how certain supplements can mess with your nitric oxide levels, which is apparently a huge deal for your circulation and everything else down the line. I mean, if you look at what people like Dr. Louis Ignarro have been saying, it’s not just some random wellness trend; there’s actual heavy-duty research involved. It’s interesting because you see these big names, like the director of human nutrition center or even folks over at the national cancer institute, talking about how these pathways work. It makes you wonder why more people aren't paying attention to this stuff earlier on. I guess what I'm trying to say is that sometimes these things actually hold water. Like, I was reading about someone who enjoyed The book tremendously - i have switched to The Doctor's Niteworks Supplement and already have a seen a profound Change in my cholestrol levels and circulatory Systems, and honestly, you hear stories like that all the time in these circles. It’s easy to be skeptical, especially with how much junk is out there, but when you see the connection between things like what they do at UCLA or the research coming out of places like Indianapolis, it changes the vibe a bit. Anyway, I don't know, maybe I'm just overthinking it. It’s just a lot to chew on. You look at companies like Herbalife or Twinlab and you start questioning what's legit and what's just clever marketing. But then you see the results, and you have to wonder if we're all just missing the obvious. Just my two cents, I guess.
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#91 ·
Sarah Gomez52 said:First off, you didn't actually bring any real expertise to the table; you just copy-pasted stuff from random flyers and websites.
As for all those "respected experts" you keep citing, I'm just not gonna go there...
But even so, UCLA isn't exactly the only or biggest center out there dealing with nutrition.

You say you're learning and just blindly believing everything—well, it definitely shows—because honestly, you seem way better at the whole copying things down thing. 😁

Look, it doesn't really matter who I am or what my deal is, the only thing that matters is the message I'm putting out there... 😉

ps: You clearly have your own ways of using the internet (and your English) so if you actually put in enough effort, you could probably figure out way more than I could ever tell you... 🙂
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#92 ·
James Newman4 said:It doesn't really matter who I am or what my background is. All that matters is the message I'm sharing. 😉

You're a lifesaver! 🙏 🙏 🙏
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#93 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:but apparently soy is supposed to be healthy for EVERYTHING, just everything in the whole world. WELL I WANT MY PHENYLALANINE!!! If I don't get my daily dose of Phe, I'm gonna lose my mind!!!

man, if there's no phe, then I'm definitely not buying Mac's shakes 😢

I mean, if phenylalanine is just your excuse for being this clueless, then I guess I get it... 😁
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#94 ·
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#95 ·
James Newman4 says:
Everything you need to know.

Vitamins:
Minerals:
protein:
Carbohydrates:
amino acids:
Antioxidants:
fats:
Omega-3:
Coenzyme Q10:
isoflavones:

There's still a whole lot more to go. Check out http://www.nrg-fit.com

A message regarding MacGregor and Mac Hummer!!!

By the way, if you're already writing most of this in English, why not just write the whole thing in English? Maybe you're having trouble translating everything? 😁
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#96 ·
Sarah Gomez52 said:You're a total lifesaver!!! 🙏 🙏 🙏

😂 😂 😂
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#97 ·
James Newman4 said:I honestly didn't believe it, but this is the absolute truth... when people run out of actual arguments and just can't wrap their heads around the facts, that "expert crew" (nimbledriver81, Sarah Gomez52, violent.., jadesailor14, Rachel Brooks63, ..... forgive me if I missed anyone!) starts grabbing onto comments that have absolutely nothing to do with what we're even discussing here.

If I may—I’d suggest paying a little more attention to basic English proficiency! See, the word "topic" refers to the subject at hand. A "top" is just a small shirt—you know, like something you'd find in the fashion section.

Don't you worry about our expertise; there are plenty of people to handle that—thank you kindly. And believe me, there are plenty of folks around to (pre)judge it all.

Oh, there is Phe for you! Every bit of HL soy feeds your cells exactly what they order—if you need insulin, you get it; if you need Phe, you get it; and if Phe is bothering you, well, HL soy is just that smart, and you'll simply flush it right out...

And if they actually possess a few functioning gray cells (by which I mean supplements, of course), then having some "nutritional advisors" around wouldn't be such a bad idea either.
Steven Kelly152 Steven Kelly152 Newcomer
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#98 ·
James Newman4 said:Thanks for the free assessment of how much brain matter I have between my ears, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got a bit more than you’re giving me credit for... 😁>

James Newman4 said:The science you’re talking about—the stuff you probably think you know—is all about diseases and drugs. We all know how they work. But once a drug hits the market, they can't exactly let everyone know everything about it, right? Otherwise, who would actually use it? 😉
Who would swallow anything if they knew the full list of bad things that could happen just to fix one single issue? If people knew every single side effect their body would be exposed to, nobody would touch them. But luckily, even the people who cooked up the medicine don't always know the full story yet, so they aren't hit with all that information either... 😁[/B]

And this Nobel Prize winner of yours—what field of science did he actually win his prize in?

James Newman4 said:Maybe I’m not competent enough to provide a perfect answer to every single question, which is why I rely on whatever resources I can find at the moment. But that doesn't make the substance of what I’m saying any less valid... you're probably wondering why? [/B]

Honestly, I don't care, and it’s obvious to me just as it is to the rest of the masses on this forum!

James Newman4 said:In July, Nobel laureate dr. Louis Ignarro is coming to Europe, and I’ll be attending his lecture. He’s going to talk about solutions—real protection—for heart disease patients, who are currently the most vulnerable group in the world (every second death). After that lecture, when all the top experts in the field are present, nothing will ever be the same. It’s going to change the way you all think. [/B]

You seem to think that being acquainted with a Nobel laureate makes you some kind of "personal nutrition consultant," but by that logic, I should be considered a "personal consultant in supramolecular chemistry" since I say "good morning" to a Nobel laureate almost every single day and the man actually responds and we understand each other perfectly fine. 😁
Steven Kelly152 Steven Kelly152 Newcomer
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#99 ·
nimbledriver81 said:If they’ve actually gone out and included some gray matter in their formulas—and I mean actual brainpower, not just marketing fluff—then they might actually be worth listening to. They could probably even step up and act as legitimate nutritional advisors for once.

nimbledriver81, good grief, you’re really out here trying to claim everything too? 😲
James Newman4 James Newman4 Member
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#100 ·
Yeah, I get where you're coming from... he basically snagged a Nobel in medicine because the whole field of nutrition hasn't even been properly established as its own thing yet.. 😁

He’s just one of those guys who takes all that prestige and brainpower and channels it into something that actually goes against the grain of Big Pharma... instead of pills, he's looking at food and natural nutritional supplements that actually trigger health changes... so, I guess the focus is really on overall HEALTH rather than just treating diseases like the pharmaceutical companies do (sorry if that sounded a bit harsh, didn't mean to offend you) .. 😉 😁

ps: feel free to keep posting your comments, stay happy and just keep being yourselves .. 😉 👋

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