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Best offshore sportsbooks for online betting?

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Megan Newman3 Megan Newman3 Member
19 messages
joined Sep 2008
#241 ·
Ronald Price36 said:If you don't have your transaction history handy, just file an amendment request with support.

If you actually have your transaction history, you might as well bang your head against a wall.🙂
Your only real move is to close that MB account and start fresh. Just a heads up though—if you had your bank account linked, they won't release it for use with a new MB account immediately, and any credit cards you had saved won't work with the new one either.

Just trying to save everyone from a massive, pointless email chain with MB support.

Screw their currency system.

Quick update: after fighting them tooth and nail, they finally let me use the same bank account and credit cards I had on my old account.
James Gonzalez14 James Gonzalez14 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2008
#242 ·
Any experts here know if something like this actually exists??
Brandon Castillo4 Brandon Castillo4 Regular
277 messages
joined Nov 2003
#243 ·
What are you looking for, a free bonus? Yeah, they exist, but you can't touch that money until you've wagered it at least 3, 5, or even 10 times over. I mean, what's even the point? You end up scraping together $500 just to dump it online, then you have to sit there playing slow just to meet some ridiculous requirement. It’s hardly the "starting capital" they claim it is.
Betty Grant84 Betty Grant84 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jun 2008
#244 ·
If you’re sitting there wondering if there is some magical sportsbook where you can just sign up and instantly pocket free cash to play with without ever touching your own wallet, I hate to break it to you, but the answer is a hard no!
You could certainly try your luck in various tipster competitions to see if you can snag a little prize money, but let's be realistic—you're looking at maybe $50 at most!

The real way to score is through those deposit bonuses, where if you go ahead and put down, say, $100 of your own money from your debit card, they'll match it 100%, meaning you suddenly have $200 to play with, though keep in mind these bonuses are usually just a one-time treat for your very first deposit!
George Nguyen3 George Nguyen3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#245 ·
Is there any way to sign up and start betting on bwin if I don't have the standard cards like a Mastercard or a Visa? I see they accept PayPal, but my parents' card—which I think is just a Maestro from their local credit union—isn't being accepted by my Bank of America account.

If I recall correctly, there’s usually a way to make deposits into a Bank of America account through a bank transfer or at a post office, so I'd really appreciate it if someone could walk me through how that works... hopefully there are some regular online bettors here who can point me in the right direction.
Walter Edwards Walter Edwards Newcomer
2 messages
joined Jul 2012
#246 ·
You think it’s just a bank transfer maybe??

Well, I mean, it might be doable since Bank of America recently inked a deal with JPMorgan Chase, but there's no way you can do it just with a simple deposit slip—Bank of America doesn't even allow cash deposits from people over here in the States. So, you'd probably need to open a foreign currency account and then maybe try a wire transfer, though honestly, that's not exactly a foolproof method and I wouldn't bet my life on it actually working. Honestly? Your best bet is to just have your parents (or you??) grab a Visa and call it a day. 🤷
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
249 messages
joined Feb 2018
#247 ·
George Nguyen3 said:Is there any way I can sign up and bet on bwin if I don't have those standard cards like a Mastercard or a Visa? I see they take PayPal, but even my Bank of America account won't accept this specific card my parents have (I think it's just a Maestro from the local Post Office)

I mean, if I remember right, there should be a way to move money into a Bank of America account through a bank or the post office, so I’d really appreciate it if someone could tell me more about how that works... I'm hoping there are some regular online bettors here who can definitely help me out

Just gotta ask, is that "13" actually your age?

You really shouldn't be gambling at such a young age.

-briskjackal5
George Nguyen3 George Nguyen3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#248 ·
briskjackal5 said:Let me ask you one thing—is "13" supposed to be your age?

Don't go making bets when you're still that young.

-briskjackal5

I'm not 13, I'm 21... currently unemployed and a student, which is why I don't have a card. My parents aren't working either, so they don't have any of these "popular" ones... I read somewhere that using an MB account is best for people in my spot because it pays out via a foreign currency account and then deposits... hmm, I actually can't remember the exact process for that part.
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
249 messages
joined Feb 2018
#249 ·
George Nguyen3 said:Man, I'm not even 13, I'm actually 21... just unemployed and still a student, so I don't have a card yet. My parents aren't working either, so they don't have any of those "popular" ones either... though I did read somewhere that using an MB account might be best for people in my spot since payouts go through a foreign currency account and then get deposited... hmm, I guess I'm not quite sure how that part works actually

Well, since you're a student, you should definitely be able to open a foreign currency account.
And you could always deposit funds into an MB Visa Electron, which you can grab over at Bank of America.
The easiest way to handle it is probably just going through the PayPal website once you've verified your card with MB.

Also, anyone else with an MB account should be able to just transfer the amount straight to your MB account.

-briskjackal5
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#250 ·
briskjackal5, I’ve got a question for you—or honestly, anyone else here who actually knows what they're doing. It looks like my MB Visa Electron from Bank of America has been blocked for online betting. I actually swung by the local branch a few days ago to figure out what was going on, but the line was absolutely insane so I just gave up... Is there any way to get this card unblocked, and what does that process look like? Like, can I handle this over the phone or am I stuck waiting in lines forever?
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
249 messages
joined Feb 2018
#251 ·
Taylor Gonzalez79 said:Stipe, I’ve got a question for you—or honestly, anyone else who might know. It looks like my Visa Electron card over at Bank of America is blocked for online betting. I actually swung by the branch a few days ago to see what was up, but the line was just way too long, so I gave up. Is it possible to get that card unblocked, and what’s the deal with the process? Like, can I maybe just handle it over the phone?

Well, every single card has its own specific policy, I guess.

With JPMorgan Chase, if they block you (and man, they definitely do that sometimes), you can usually get it sorted out over the phone.
JPMorgan Chase tends to be pretty suspicious at first whenever there are a couple of international transactions (mostly because they don't bother checking things like expekt.com 😁 ), but after a quick call—or sometimes they even call you—they unblock it and you're good to go.
Another annoying thing about JPMorgan Chase is this bad habit they have, which is super irritating (and pricey) where they constantly swap currencies from dollars back to euros and then back again.

Our local bettors rarely ever touch Bank of America. For questions about unblocking stuff, you probably have a toll-free number on the card itself or on their website. Also, at Bank of America, they might (totally unnecessarily and logically weird) give you a hard time saying it has to go through a "foreign currency account" instead of a "checking account."
I've actually had really good luck with those toll-free numbers before. Of course, the golden rule is always to not poke the bear where you shouldn't. 😁 Because sometimes you'll get three different answers from three different people at three different desks, and then the fourth person—who happens to be the shift manager—gives you a fourth version, and you're just left wondering what's real.
And it's always a smart move to ask if anyone else has dealt with that specific issue. For example, when you're doing an MB verification for a debit (or credit) card, the first amount you see in your online banking—the one MB pulled—might actually be wrong. It takes a few days for that amount to adjust by a few cents, and then you get the actual amount you need to enter for verification. But honestly, most of the customer support folks at the bank or MB probably won't know that, but the regular bettors definitely do.

Around here, Bank of America debit cards are pretty popular and they do their job really well, so I would totally recommend those to you. You don't have to deal with all that "blocking" nonsense, you have a dedicated phone line for card services, and transactions just work.

-Stipe
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#252 ·
I just got off the phone with some representative from Bank of America, and honestly, she completely blew me off. She had the nerve to claim they don't have any info regarding online betting, and then insisted—as if it were common sense—that you can't use an MB Visa Electron for anything online, that it’s strictly limited to credit cards.🙄 Even threatening to move my entire account to another bank didn't do a damn thing to help...

I'm heading out this afternoon to clear out my funds, and then I'm taking my business straight over to JPMorgan Chase. Thanks for the heads-up.👍
George Nguyen3 George Nguyen3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#253 ·
Honestly, this all feels way too complicated for me... I’m thinking it might be easier to just grab whatever card is closest to the local betting shop and let my aunt handle the payment, rather than dealing with all this other nonsense. 🤷

Man... if it were actually that simple, everyone would be doing it. 🙂

edit: Since I’m clearly such a total newbie for even asking this... what’s the actual deal with the difference between a Maestro and a Mastercard? Doesn't Mastercard issue both? Why can't I use the Maestro one for online payments?
George Nguyen3 George Nguyen3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#254 ·
Since I’ve already started rambling about which cards I actually need... I noticed that bwin.com takes PayPal, but there’s a catch. To get everything verified after signing up, you still need a credit card. From what I can tell, they don't accept Maestro, which makes the debit cards my parents have basically useless here.

After all this headache... can someone just give me a straight answer? What is the actual best way to sign up? Like, what's the one reliable method that won't leave me hanging? (P.S. if I hit the jackpot, I'll make sure to reward anyone who actually helps me out. 😍)
Larry Kim Larry Kim Newcomer
1 message
joined Jul 2008
#255 ·
George Nguyen3 said:it all sounds way too complicated to me ... I guess it might be easier to just use whatever is closest to my house and have my aunt pay for it, rather than dealing with everyone else 🤷

well ... if it were that easy, everyone would be doing it 🙂

edit: since I'm clearly a total newbie here asking this too ... what's actually the difference between a Maestro card and a Mastercard? Doesn't Mastercard issue Maestro too ... is that why it won't work for online payments?

I don't see what's so complicated. I do everything from home. I use Chase online banking—you just move money from your checking to your foreign currency account, then you can send it straight to a sportsbook, poker site, or a casino, whatever. To open a foreign currency account at Chase, you just stop by a branch, and you get the card in a few days... plus, the perks of online betting are huge.

Either I use Chase, or I still use PayPal because some poker sites don't allow direct card withdrawals. You go through there, and then you can move it wherever you want, send cash to someone's account, withdraw it, deposit it into a bookie, or buy stuff online. It's basically just an online wallet...

anyway, who actually wants to stand in lines???? 😁
George Nguyen3 George Nguyen3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#256 ·
Larry Kim said:I don't see why anyone thinks this is complicated. I do everything from my couch. I use Chase online banking—if I have cash in my checking account, I just transfer it over to my foreign currency account and send it straight to a sportsbook, poker site, or whatever casino I'm hitting. To set up that foreign currency account at Chase, you just swing by a branch, and they'll have your card ready in a few days. Honestly, the perks of being able to gamble online are too huge to pass up.

I either go through Chase or I still lean on PayPal because some poker sites won't pay out directly to a card. You use it as a middleman, and then you can move money wherever you want—send funds to someone's bank account, deposit into a betting site, or just shop online. It’s basically an online wallet...

Bottom line: who actually wants to spend their life standing in lines? 😁

So, I guess that's how it works... I've been trying to explain it to my old man. I tell him I need to open a foreign currency account at Chase—it's like paying a small fee to get the card issued—and once I load it up via Chase whenever I feel like it, I can spend whatever is sitting in there. He's convinced I'm wrong. He thinks they won't just hand me a card like that. According to him, I need a steady monthly salary before they'll even consider giving me a credit card.🤷
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#257 ·
A Visa electron isn't actually a credit card—it’s tied directly to a foreign currency checking account, so you really shouldn't be running into any issues here.
blueheron9 blueheron9 Newcomer
1 message
joined Aug 2009
#258 ·
You know what to do if you want to dodge all those credit card hassles?

Just set up a Moneybookers account, grab some Euros from someone, and load them onto an online sportsbook—then, when you eventually go to withdraw your winnings, just send them right back to your MB. After that, just post an ad saying you're selling Euros. Easy as that.

If you need some Euros sent to your MB, hit me up.

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George Nguyen3 George Nguyen3 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Nov 2008
#259 ·
So, I headed down to Chase today and opened up a foreign currency account, then immediately dropped about $45 into it... since it's all in USD now, it's basically just sitting there.

I wanted to pick your brains on something. Once my actual debit card arrives in about ten days, should I bother registering it through PayPal? From everything I've read on here and other sites, people swear by moving money from the card to PayPal first and then hitting the sportsbook from there. But honestly, most of those threads are at least a year old, so they might be outdated. What’s the current play? Is it better to just load the site directly with the card, or is going through PayPal still the move? 😕
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
249 messages
joined Feb 2018
#260 ·
George Nguyen3 said:So, I went down to Chase today and opened a foreign currency account, and I immediately tossed in about $45... since it's a Euro account, that's roughly 40 Euros (though the Euro is kind of climbing lately)...

I wanted to ask—once my actual card shows up in a few days (maybe in about 10?), should I register it through PayPal? I've been reading through the forums and other sites saying it’s better to move money from the card to PayPal first and then over to the sportsbook, but those posts are at least a year old now. I'm wondering what the current vibe is... should I just deposit directly with the card or stick with the PayPal route? 😕

Honestly, it's probably better to just deposit straight from your card to the sportsbook.

You'll need to have scans of your card and your ID ready.
Just make sure you follow the instructions really closely when you get to that part.

FanDuel usually does a 50 for 50 deal in the US, and BetMGM has a 30 for 30 one.

-briskjackal5

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