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Scott Gonzalez9 Scott Gonzalez9 Member
12 messages
joined Jul 2009
#2041 ·
Terry Howard7 said:Look, I get it—maybe Germans are more mobile and tend to rent more often because of job changes and all that—but this idea that people would rather rent indefinitely just to blow their extra cash on travel? I don't know, I guess there isn't much logic to that.

It makes sense if the math works out, and for them, it probably does. If rent here was like $1,000$500 and a mortgage payment was $3,500, then yeah, it’s a no-brainer. Some people will definitely take the rental route and dump the leftover cash into trips.

Around here, anything under $2,800 for a rental is basically a steal. You’re looking at at least $3,000 once you add utilities, while mortgage payments are already hitting that $3,500 mark. It’s not that Germans are geniuses and Americans are idiots—there just isn't a logical calculation behind it. It’s stupid to draw a line after 20 or 30 years and realize you have absolutely nothing to show for it because most of your value went straight into someone else's pocket via rent.

@Matthew Young35 😁🙏 You cracked me up, man. Reminded me of this one story. I’ve got this little house out in the sticks, and some friends from the city came over for a BBQ. One buddy of mine is obsessed with UFC and MMA, right? Well, suddenly this cow starts charging at him and he just loses his mind running for cover! 🤣
Kyle Campbell4 Kyle Campbell4 Regular
265 messages
joined Aug 2021
#2042 ·
I find myself wondering: when will we finally see a return to the ways of our ancestors, when people once again embrace the simple life of the countryside and honor the timeless traditions passed down by their grandfathers and great-grandfathers?
Terry Howard7 Terry Howard7 Active Member
72 messages
joined Dec 2013
#2043 ·
Scott Gonzalez9 said:It makes sense if the math works out, and for them, it probably does. If rent here was like $1,000$500 and a mortgage payment was $3,500, then yeah, it’s a no-brainer. Some people will definitely take the rental route and dump the leftover cash into trips.

Around here, anything under $2,800 for a rental is basically a steal. You’re looking at at least $3,000 once you add utilities, while mortgage payments are already hitting that $3,500 mark. It’s not that Germans are geniuses and Americans are idiots—there just isn't a logical calculation behind it. It’s stupid to draw a line after 20 or 30 years and realize you have absolutely nothing to show for it because most of your value went straight into someone else's pocket via rent.

@Matthew Young35 😁🙏 You cracked me up, man. Reminded me of this one story. I’ve got this little house out in the sticks, and some friends from the city came over for a BBQ. One buddy of mine is obsessed with UFC and MMA, right? Well, suddenly this cow starts charging at him and he just loses his mind running for cover! 🤣

Look, there’s really no math to it—it just doesn't add up. Most people living in rentals out here are basically just passing through—you've got the gig workers, college kids, young people without any family ties... you name it. Once someone actually decides to settle down and start a family, they start looking for something more permanent—which usually means grabbing a house out in the suburbs.

If you’re actually planning on starting a family and thinking about settling down somewhere until retirement—I don't know, maybe somewhere stable—there is just zero logic in living paycheck to paycheck. Honestly, that goes for us here in America just as much as it does anywhere else.
Matthew Young35 Matthew Young35 Veteran
1.1K messages
joined Jan 2018
#2044 ·
Scott Gonzalez9 said:It makes sense if the math works out, and for them, it probably does. If rent here was like $1,000$500 and a mortgage payment was $3,500, then yeah, it’s a no-brainer. Some people will definitely take the rental route and dump the leftover cash into trips.

Around here, anything under $2,800 for a rental is basically a steal. You’re looking at at least $3,000 once you add utilities, while mortgage payments are already hitting that $3,500 mark. It’s not that Germans are geniuses and Americans are idiots—there just isn't a logical calculation behind it. It’s stupid to draw a line after 20 or 30 years and realize you have absolutely nothing to show for it because most of your value went straight into someone else's pocket via rent.

@Matthew Young35 😁🙏 You cracked me up, man. Reminded me of this one story. I’ve got this little house out in the sticks, and some friends from the city came over for a BBQ. One buddy of mine is obsessed with UFC and MMA, right? Well, suddenly this cow starts charging at him and he just loses his mind running for cover! 🤣

That’s exactly my point. Seriously.
It’s funny how things work out. When people from the rural heartland head into the big city, they seem to lose all sense of how to navigate the streets. But then again, we city folk aren't exactly much better at tending to sheep or growing peppers in the backyard. We're all just specialists in our own little ways, aren't we?
On paper, it’s a breeze. You plant the pepper seeds, and they just grow. Simple, right?
In reality, the wolves just end up eating peppers and leaving you completely screwed. How was I supposed to know I needed to be setting up wolf-proof fencing?

Agriculture isn't just about soil and seeds. You need actual expertise to pull it off, and more importantly, you need the guts to deal with the wildlife that constantly tries to tear your livelihood apart.

Rural life just isn't my speed, and honestly, it’s not the vibe for most city dwellers either.
quietcobra15 quietcobra15 Member
26 messages
joined Jan 2023
#2045 ·
Does one not require true passion and a genuine drive to succeed in agriculture? Of course, one might argue that such motivation is a prerequisite for any endeavor, yet if you truly possess that inner spark and the willingness to labor, could you not realistically begin your journey in farming as early as tomorrow?
Olivia Taylor2 Olivia Taylor2 Active Member
86 messages
joined Dec 2015
#2046 ·
I got lucky and jumped into real estate about two years ago—caught the last train before prices went absolutely insane. I actually owned a plot of land that shot up by $200k in just a few months. To give you an idea, back then, new builds in cities like Chicago were going for maybe $150 per square foot, and now you can't find anything under $250. It’s definitely not the time to be buying unless your finances are rock solid. I’m probably not smart enough to predict if or when this bubble finally pops, though. Maybe someone here actually knows what they're talking about and can give us a real estimate? 🤷

Just speaking as a layman watching how things are moving, I have a gut feeling prices might even creep up a bit more over the next year or two before finally leveling off.
fadedridge903 fadedridge903 Member
43 messages
joined Feb 2022
#2047 ·
Just go out and buy some cows. You'll get cheese, milk, buttermilk, yogurt, butter, fertilizer, beef... the whole works.
Maybe pick up a little gold while you're at it.
wiredfalcon2 wiredfalcon2 Regular
491 messages
joined Mar 2005
#2048 ·
So you’re out here buying cows, but only if they’re Russian, huh? That’s your thing now.
Jacob Kern2 Jacob Kern2 Active Member
100 messages
joined Jun 2024
#2049 ·
Matthew Young35 said:That’s exactly my point. Seriously.
It’s funny how things work out. When people from the rural heartland head into the big city, they seem to lose all sense of how to navigate the streets. But then again, we city folk aren't exactly much better at tending to sheep or growing peppers in the backyard. We're all just specialists in our own little ways, aren't we?
On paper, it’s a breeze. You plant the pepper seeds, and they just grow. Simple, right?
In reality, the wolves just end up eating peppers and leaving you completely screwed. How was I supposed to know I needed to be setting up wolf-proof fencing?

Agriculture isn't just about soil and seeds. You need actual expertise to pull it off, and more importantly, you need the guts to deal with the wildlife that constantly tries to tear your livelihood apart.

Rural life just isn't my speed, and honestly, it’s not the vibe for most city dwellers either.

To be successful in agriculture, one does not necessarily require a doctorate. What is truly essential is the business acumen to market your goods at a profitable price point. In this modern era, a child raised in an urban environment is often better equipped to handle the entire lifecycle of production and sales than someone raised on a farm.

Actually planting a crop doesn't require immense intellect, nor, given today's advanced machinery, does it require overwhelming physical labor. Most other hurdles are cleared through trial and error, though without basic education, those errors can quickly lead to total financial ruin. Historically, humans had to eat to survive, and even just seventy or eighty years ago, most families produced their own sustenance. Not everyone was a genius, yet they managed. You can learn the mechanics of planting in a two-week seminar, whereas mastering the logistics of distribution requires genuine creativity, strategic thinking, and vision.

It is my firm belief that life in smaller towns is superior, more beautiful, "easier," and healthier than the frantic pace of the city. No matter how much that might sound like a fallacy to some, especially in times as turbulent as our own.

The old adage that "the country can exist without the city, but the city cannot exist without the country" holds weight. All that is required is a modicum of effort and a genuine desire to succeed. Nothing more.

Consider the current reality: you can hardly find a standard apartment in downtown Chicago for under $400,000, and even then, it likely needs significant work. For that same amount of capital, you could purchase a house and acreage in the surrounding suburbs or nearby counties, complete with the necessary education and equipment to launch a vegetable production operation or something similar.

The result? You achieve true independence, a sense of luxury in space, peace, and vast land, providing the potential for near-total self-sufficiency. You won't have to worry about the chaos surrounding you, and with today's transit infrastructure (which certainly needs improvement), you could be in the heart of Chicago in an hour at most.

I am not attempting to generalize anyone's motivations, as everyone has their own reasons, but to my mind, there is no greater folly than dropping hundreds of thousands of dollars on a cramped 700-square-foot urban unit when that same investment provides everything described above in the outskirts of the city.

P.S. If I didn't have a deep-seated desire to return to the Midwest, I would have purchased a home in New England or perhaps out on the Great Plains. Eventually, the infrastructure projects connecting the outskirts to the city will improve, and from a place like a suburb near Springfield, you could be in the city center in forty-five minutes. You couldn't ask for more. ☕

As proof of how remarkably simple modern agriculture can actually be, look at this individual. 👍

https://www.youtube.com/c/DutchFarmerMoreno
Ethan Cook Ethan Cook Member
23 messages
joined May 2020
#2050 ·
When it comes to agriculture, cannabis is a total game-changer. Why aren't we all pulling together to push this harmless, useful plant toward full legalization? Think about the massive impact the government could see across the board—justice, policing, tax revenue, you name it. What do you all think? Is anyone here actually ambitious enough to get involved or even just offer some support? Look at Colorado; they broke the ice back in 2014, and now they're reaping the rewards, using that tax money to build schools and fix roads—all from a plant that has never killed a single soul.

LEGALIZE IT!
Jacob Kern2 Jacob Kern2 Active Member
100 messages
joined Jun 2024
#2051 ·
Ethan Cook said:When it comes to agriculture, cannabis is a total game-changer. Why aren't we all pulling together to push this harmless, useful plant toward full legalization? Think about the massive impact the government could see across the board—justice, policing, tax revenue, you name it. What do you all think? Is anyone here actually ambitious enough to get involved or even just offer some support? Look at Colorado; they broke the ice back in 2014, and now they're reaping the rewards, using that tax money to build schools and fix roads—all from a plant that has never killed a single soul.

LEGALIZE IT!

+1. 😁

I would throw myself into this endeavor immediately. Even the mere mention of potential legalization has me beginning preparations to get involved. Unfortunately, I do not see the situation here moving from its current standstill anytime in the foreseeable future.
coastalheron12 coastalheron12 Active Member
63 messages
joined Oct 2018
#2052 ·
In Europe, the monopoly on drugs and weapons stays strictly in the hands of the government and federal commissions. Central authorities
boldtiger7 boldtiger7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Aug 2021
#2053 ·
Olivia Taylor2 said:I got lucky and jumped into real estate about two years ago—caught the last train before prices went absolutely insane. I actually owned a plot of land that shot up by $200k in just a few months. To give you an idea, back then, new builds in cities like Chicago were going for maybe $150 per square foot, and now you can't find anything under $250. It’s definitely not the time to be buying unless your finances are rock solid. I’m probably not smart enough to predict if or when this bubble finally pops, though. Maybe someone here actually knows what they're talking about and can give us a real estimate? 🤷

Just speaking as a layman watching how things are moving, I have a gut feeling prices might even creep up a bit more over the next year or two before finally leveling off.

The truth is, nobody can give you a definitive answer. Prices might drop, in which case you'd regret buying now, or they might surge, leaving you stuck paying rent while facing even higher prices down the road...

In my view, you should buy when you actually need it and when you have the financial means to do so. In any other scenario, you can afford to run the numbers and wait.
Ethan Cook Ethan Cook Member
23 messages
joined May 2020
#2054 ·
Jacob Kern2 said:+1. 😁

I would throw myself into this endeavor immediately. Even the mere mention of potential legalization has me beginning preparations to get involved. Unfortunately, I do not see the situation here moving from its current standstill anytime in the foreseeable future.

The more of us, the better! You have to be ready when the wheels start turning, and it could happen any day. We need to focus on education; we live in an era where people don't buy that old lie about weed leading straight to needles anymore. 🤦
The guys over at Garica are making some moves, and I just hope they head in the right direction. There are so many benefits to this, I wouldn't even know where to begin. Forget Amsterdam—if they legalized this and marketed it as something you can enjoy along our coasts and islands, we'd become the cannabis mecca of the Old World. We have the land, we have the sun, and we have plenty of unemployed farmers. Seriously, think of what we could achieve. Not even a pandemic could stop us.
Ethan Cook Ethan Cook Member
23 messages
joined May 2020
#2055 ·
coastalheron12 said:In Europe, the monopoly on drugs and weapons stays strictly in the hands of the government and federal commissions. Central authorities

There will always be those of us living for our dreams.😁
fadedridge903 fadedridge903 Member
43 messages
joined Feb 2022
#2056 ·
wiredfalcon2 said:So you’re out here buying cows, but only if they’re Russian, huh? That’s your thing now.

Cows don't give a damn about borders or nationality. 😁
Kyle Campbell4 Kyle Campbell4 Regular
265 messages
joined Aug 2021
#2057 ·
Matthew Young35 said:That’s exactly my point. Seriously.
It’s funny how things work out. When people from the rural heartland head into the big city, they seem to lose all sense of how to navigate the streets. But then again, we city folk aren't exactly much better at tending to sheep or growing peppers in the backyard. We're all just specialists in our own little ways, aren't we?
On paper, it’s a breeze. You plant the pepper seeds, and they just grow. Simple, right?
In reality, the wolves just end up eating peppers and leaving you completely screwed. How was I supposed to know I needed to be setting up wolf-proof fencing?

Agriculture isn't just about soil and seeds. You need actual expertise to pull it off, and more importantly, you need the guts to deal with the wildlife that constantly tries to tear your livelihood apart.

Rural life just isn't my speed, and honestly, it’s not the vibe for most city dwellers either.

You clearly have the Caucasus or the Carpathians in mind, which means you’re going to need a massive Mastiff to protect you from wolves and bears.🤣🤣

Look, people are terrified of wild animals, but they shouldn't be. If you live out in the rural countryside, the actual danger from wildlife is effectively zero. I spent my childhood summers staying out on a farm, and I can tell you there were only ever two real concerns. First, if a hawk caught an updraft and started circling the coop, that was the immediate signal to drive the chickens back into the coop until the predator moved on. The second threat was more serious, but in a small town, someone always has a shotgun handy, and any rabid fox wandering into the village is dealt with very quickly. Rabid foxes don't fear humans and can actually be dangerous. Honestly, if I ever went back to my grandfather’s old place, I wouldn't raise livestock. I don't know the first thing about it, and frankly, I don't have the stomach for it—slaughtering a chicken, cutting its head off, and waiting for the blood to drain before scalding it in hot water? Disgusting. You buy your meat in the city; out in the country, you grow your own fruits and vegetables and tend to a beautiful flower garden.
Springtime strawberries straight from the garden—man, there isn't a city in this country that can compete with that.

The true danger in rural living is the isolation you feel when you don't have a wife and children to anchor you. The younger generation has all migrated away from these small towns, leaving behind nothing but an aging population and perhaps a few middle-aged folks scattered about. You simply have no one to socialize with. While you might be geographically cut off, having a car makes it manageable enough. It isn't like the old days when I was growing up; back then, everyone would head out to the countryside for the summer. Godparents or close family friends would drop by, and we’d spend the entire night drinking beer and wine. We kids would just sit there, wide-eyed, watching the adults drink, smoke, and play cards. You weren't even allowed to pull up a chair to the table; they’d immediately usher you over to the couch because "that's not for kids."
Kyle Campbell4 Kyle Campbell4 Regular
265 messages
joined Aug 2021
#2058 ·
Well, damn, folks. To hell with all that. I’m not holding back here—I’ve got zero filter and an even stronger craving. After listening to all this talk about cultivation, I am absolutely dying for a smoke. I don't even have an empty cigarette pack left to scavenge from. Nothing. I guess I'll just head out to grab some filters.🙂🙂
Ethan Cook Ethan Cook Member
23 messages
joined May 2020
#2059 ·
Kyle Campbell4 said:Well, damn, folks. To hell with all that. I’m not holding back here—I’ve got zero filter and an even stronger craving. After listening to all this talk about cultivation, I am absolutely dying for a smoke. I don't even have an empty cigarette pack left to scavenge from. Nothing. I guess I'll just head out to grab some filters.🙂🙂

Come on, man. You can't be that clueless. You definitely have some plain A4 paper lying around somewhere. Just cut it to size, fold it over to make it thick enough, and there you go—it's basically the same thing you'd buy at a gas station.
Kyle Campbell4 Kyle Campbell4 Regular
265 messages
joined Aug 2021
#2060 ·
Ethan Cook said:Come on, man. You can't be that clueless. You definitely have some plain A4 paper lying around somewhere. Just cut it to size, fold it over to make it thick enough, and there you go—it's basically the same thing you'd buy at a gas station.

Brilliant idea. I never would have thought of that. Sometimes it really pays to act on impulse.🤣

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