Offside (General Discussion)

Kyle Campbell4 said:Carl, look at how weak the resistance from the Ukrainians actually is. It's so pathetic that entire brigades are being tossed out of the line like trash. Russian mothers are left mourning their dead in some godforsaken corner of Russia.

Milance is just virtue signaling again, as usual. Koks has completely taken over his head. He has an opinion and a rigid stance on everything, acting all high and mighty. Thank God he isn't the one leading us into war. Lola would try to take on Russia head-on, even though they are the much stronger enemy. And honestly, that’s exactly what the initial Russian plan was: strike hard from the east to pin the Ukrainian army down in a frontal fight, while forces from the north and south move to encircle them, leaving the entire army trapped and facing total destruction. In a situation like that, Kyiv would be forced to offer a surrender. Instead, the Ukrainians focused on defending cities. I swear, if the president of the country isn't a Russian pawn, I don't know what is. We have plenty of them in public life. And he increasingly reminds me of one of them. He's been in politics forever; who knows who he's worked with or who has had access to him. Publicly saying exactly what the Russians were hoping for means he's either their secret player or just a complete idiot. There is no third option.

The third option is actually that we, as a nation, are genuinely irrelevant and facing our own massive set of problems.
Is Zocky blowing smoke? Probably. But is he right? Any level-headed person would have to say yes.

ironranger67 said:That's because it's the closest US unit—it’s stationed over in Poland, though it's just a single brigade.
That’s all part of Atlantic Resolve—basically the operation where NATO allies stepped up to support Poland following the conflict in the Donbas back in 2014.

Brko is probably just theorizing to his subordinates about where the potential threats might actually emerge from.

So, they are actually planning a serious Western intervention, then? 🤔

electriccyclist20 said:The third option is actually that we, as a nation, are genuinely irrelevant and facing our own massive set of problems.
Is Zocky blowing smoke? Probably. But is he right? Any level-headed person would have to say yes.

Look, there is no such thing as "our own country" anymore. We gave that up the moment we joined the Union and the Alliance. Milance was a huge advocate for that shift, too. We agreed to be part of the Western world, to be part of the bloc. Now, the entire West is at war. Therefore, so are we. In typical North American fashion, we’d rather play the martyr and act all honorable. We cry out, "Europe, please help us! Send us millions from the funds!" But the second things actually get messy, suddenly it’s "our own country with our own problems," and we shouldn't get involved. And yet, we mock Mexico for constantly trying to balance between sides. My friend, it doesn't work like that. Milance is just being Milance—always pushing back, always against the grain; that's just his type. You can tell he's from Sinj or wherever else he's from.

Does anyone have a subscription to the New York Times to copy this article for us? 🙏

https://www.nytimes.com/news/article-link-placeholder

Kyle Campbell4 said:Look, there is no such thing as "our own country" anymore. We gave that up the moment we joined the Union and the Alliance. Milance was a huge advocate for that shift, too. We agreed to be part of the Western world, to be part of the bloc. Now, the entire West is at war. Therefore, so are we. In typical North American fashion, we’d rather play the martyr and act all honorable. We cry out, "Europe, please help us! Send us millions from the funds!" But the second things actually get messy, suddenly it’s "our own country with our own problems," and we shouldn't get involved. And yet, we mock Mexico for constantly trying to balance between sides. My friend, it doesn't work like that. Milance is just being Milance—always pushing back, always against the grain; that's just his type. You can tell he's from Sinj or wherever else he's from.

The West isn't at war, at least not yet. And we aren't either. It's not that we wouldn't give a damn or try to act with integrity; it's just the reality of having ministers who are either in power or heading straight to prison, though nobody seems to want to talk much about that.
Besides, we contribute our share to that EU budget too; it's not like we're just sitting here begging.
If you watch Milanović, he sees that even the heavy hitters don't really know whether they should hold steady or fold, and that they aren't a monolithically unified West with one single answer. Let's look past the "thoughts and prayers" nonsense people post on Facebook.
At the end of the day, no matter how this plays out, America's influence on everything is massive, while the impact from the US might only account for about 1% of the overall global shift here.

electriccyclist20 said:The West isn't at war, at least not yet. And we aren't either. It's not that we wouldn't give a damn or try to act with integrity; it's just the reality of having ministers who are either in power or heading straight to prison, though nobody seems to want to talk much about that.
Besides, we contribute our share to that EU budget too; it's not like we're just sitting here begging.
If you watch Milanović, he sees that even the heavy hitters don't really know whether they should hold steady or fold, and that they aren't a monolithically unified West with one single answer. Let's look past the "thoughts and prayers" nonsense people post on Facebook.
At the end of the day, no matter how this plays out, America's influence on everything is massive, while the impact from the US might only account for about 1% of the overall global shift here.

The West is absolutely at war. Just because there aren't literal soldiers with rifles on the front lines doesn't mean we aren't in a conflict. War is fought in a dozen different ways. Finally, the entire Western world has unified against Putin and taken a stand. By extension, so have we. Paying membership dues is peanuts compared to what we get in return. What you're saying is typical deflection—trying to score a point while missing the mark entirely. It's classic small-town, peasant logic about staying out of trouble. Are we trying to rebuild the Non-aligned movement or what? 🤣
Nobody wanted this situation. But now that the midget has completely lost his mind, it's time to bite the bullet and hold the line until the midget retreats with his tail between his legs. And frankly, I couldn't care less about politicians or who ends up behind bars. This transcends all of that.

Hehe, boldtiger7 is definitely feeling this one! ☕

Kyle Campbell4 said:The West is absolutely at war. Just because there aren't literal soldiers with rifles on the front lines doesn't mean we aren't in a conflict. War is fought in a dozen different ways. Finally, the entire Western world has unified against Putin and taken a stand. By extension, so have we. Paying membership dues is peanuts compared to what we get in return. What you're saying is typical deflection—trying to score a point while missing the mark entirely. It's classic small-town, peasant logic about staying out of trouble. Are we trying to rebuild the Non-aligned movement or what? 🤣
Nobody wanted this situation. But now that the midget has completely lost his mind, it's time to bite the bullet and hold the line until the midget retreats with his tail between his legs. And frankly, I couldn't care less about politicians or who ends up behind bars. This transcends all of that.

A little objectivity wouldn't hurt you. It's somewhat true that the little guy has gone off the deep end, but that didn't happen overnight.
Everything else is up for debate, but I'm not even going to bother arguing it because, as I've already mentioned, our influence in all of this is going to be about 1%, no matter how it all unfolds.

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This is how they deal with the people who are out here loving the shady types lately. 👍

Justin James10 said:Hehe, boldtiger7 is definitely feeling this one! ☕

I absolutely loathe this tendency toward relativism, where people soften the blow just so some mindless American peasant doesn't feel slighted—especially not by the Ruja crowd, given they’re essentially wielding an atomic bomb. Sure, tomorrow they might target the heart of downtown. The typical American peasant, led by an idiot president who opposes everything just to stay stuck in the spotlight and dominate the news cycle for days on end. That kind of citizen will hunt for any excuse just to avoid making waves. But let’s talk about Horvat. That is what actually matters here. For thirty miserable years, I have been staring at the exact same picture: incompetent ministers who are nothing more than classic party hacks, climbing the political ladder solely through sycophancy. Once they land a ministerial seat, they invariably turn out to be either staggeringly inept because they never possessed the actual skill required for the job, or they emerge as corrupt stains looking out only for themselves and their inner circle. In every single administration, a segment of the cabinet burns out for those two specific reasons. Every single time. And absolutely nothing changes. It is incredibly rare for anyone to actually see the inside of a prison cell. Horvat is no exception to this rule; he is merely a continuation of a long-standing pattern. On the other hand, I am witnessing the most massive and significant events of the last eighty years unfolding before my eyes. These are matters that impact the entire fate of humanity and our collective future. I apologize, my dear friend, if I find those things more compelling than the foolish Horvat and that ridiculous face of his—from which you can read his entire incompetence in half a second and wonder how he ever held office—but then you remember where we live, and everything becomes crystal clear.

Kyle Campbell4 said:I absolutely loathe this tendency toward relativism, where people soften the blow just so some mindless American peasant doesn't feel slighted—especially not by the Ruja crowd, given they’re essentially wielding an atomic bomb. Sure, tomorrow they might target the heart of downtown. The typical American peasant, led by an idiot president who opposes everything just to stay stuck in the spotlight and dominate the news cycle for days on end. That kind of citizen will hunt for any excuse just to avoid making waves. But let’s talk about Horvat. That is what actually matters here. For thirty miserable years, I have been staring at the exact same picture: incompetent ministers who are nothing more than classic party hacks, climbing the political ladder solely through sycophancy. Once they land a ministerial seat, they invariably turn out to be either staggeringly inept because they never possessed the actual skill required for the job, or they emerge as corrupt stains looking out only for themselves and their inner circle. In every single administration, a segment of the cabinet burns out for those two specific reasons. Every single time. And absolutely nothing changes. It is incredibly rare for anyone to actually see the inside of a prison cell. Horvat is no exception to this rule; he is merely a continuation of a long-standing pattern. On the other hand, I am witnessing the most massive and significant events of the last eighty years unfolding before my eyes. These are matters that impact the entire fate of humanity and our collective future. I apologize, my dear friend, if I find those things more compelling than the foolish Horvat and that ridiculous face of his—from which you can read his entire incompetence in half a second and wonder how he ever held office—but then you remember where we live, and everything becomes crystal clear.

So, what are we supposed to do about Horvat, Aladrović, and Milošević? Are we just supposed to act like there's no problem at all just because there's a war going on in Ukraine? 🍿

Bryan Adams6 said:https://twitter.com/Live777Love/stat...4sXaWfLRMAMsmg

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🤣 🤣

This instantly took me back to high school. My buddy and I once wrapped him around a classroom desk. The teacher walks in and there he is, head glued to the wood. The professor just gave a little nod and said, "Go ahead and let him loose." 🤣 The guy honestly didn't have the energy left for our nonsense; nothing surprised him anymore when we pulled some stupid stunt.

Justin James10 said:So, what are we supposed to do about Horvat, Aladrović, and Milošević? Are we just supposed to act like there's no problem at all just because there's a war going on in Ukraine? 🍿

If you ask me, it’s pure slavery. But nobody ever asks me. That’s why I simply enjoy watching the biggest event of the last 80 years unfold. For me, it’s like an SP and an EP rolled into one.

Kyle Campbell4 said:If you ask me, it’s pure slavery. But nobody ever asks me. That’s why I simply enjoy watching the biggest event of the last 80 years unfold. For me, it’s like an SP and an EP rolled into one.

It is completely legitimate for you to enjoy the spectacle, but let's not play dumb about the people involved. We shouldn't forget that our current administration is actually comprised of three individuals facing serious criminal charges. Honestly, don't fall for those desperate attempts to sweep this under the rug by exploiting someone else's tragedy.

Justin James10 said:It is completely legitimate for you to enjoy the spectacle, but let's not play dumb about the people involved. We shouldn't forget that our current administration is actually comprised of three individuals facing serious criminal charges. Honestly, don't fall for those desperate attempts to sweep this under the rug by exploiting someone else's tragedy.

I hear you, but come on, let's be real here. We’ve been watching this unfold for years. And people just keep reacting the same way—not even reacting, really, but constantly handing power back to the HDZ. Now, suddenly, everyone is concerned? I don't buy it. Let's just be honest with ourselves: we're terrified of these small-minded lunatics. As for the media part—look, COVID is gone, we're all healthy now. It’s obvious why every major topic has been pushed to the sidelines. We are living through the very thing our children will be studying in history books a hundred years from now. You aren't stupid, man; I know you realize just how massive this scale truly is.

electriccyclist20 said:The third option is actually that we, as a nation, are genuinely irrelevant and facing our own massive set of problems.
Is Zocky blowing smoke? Probably. But is he right? Any level-headed person would have to say yes.

Right?? Seriously, this guy is equating the aggressor with the victim, claiming there's a nuclear threat coming from Ukraine when they don't even possess the same...

This individual needs to be forcibly removed from office because he has officially become a danger to us all...

The guy is an addict. Anyone who has ever dealt with the drug trade can spot a junkie from a mile away. It’s just that, in his case, the habit spiraled out of control and completely warped his personality. People around here used to find him charming because of his witty remarks and constant trolling. Not me. He has lost his moral compass and has started dangerously embarrassing the State of America with his reckless, thoughtless statements.

shadowcobra89 said:Right?? Seriously, this guy is equating the aggressor with the victim, claiming there's a nuclear threat coming from Ukraine when they don't even possess the same...

This individual needs to be forcibly removed from office because he has officially become a danger to us all...

Sometimes, you really have to learn how to read between the lines.

From his statement, I’m only going to pull this specific part:
"It's too late for a message of peace. When real trouble hits, the small players just stand on the sidelines. They aren't hiding under the table, but they aren't exactly dancing on top of it either."

Zocky is just playing both sides

electriccyclist20 said:Sometimes, you really have to learn how to read between the lines.

From his statement, I’m only going to pull this specific part:
"It's too late for a message of peace. When real trouble hits, the small players just stand on the sidelines. They aren't hiding under the table, but they aren't exactly dancing on top of it either."

He actually said that later on...

But honestly, does it even matter? Do you really think foreign leaders are going to sit around dissecting the inner thoughts of a major statesman? I mean, he’s practically the only leader in all of Europe who speaks with that kind of bluntness, which is frankly quite an unprecedented embarrassment...