Offside (General Discussion)

Noah Roberts46 said:I think everyone understands that kind of mindset when it involves the citizens of Ukraine, America, or any nation that has faced aggression—of course, it makes sense in that context. But those who aren't directly involved in the fighting shouldn't adopt those views. Generalizing an entire nation—especially one as massive as Russia—as criminals won't achieve anything positive in the long run.

It's like what that guy was saying in the video that Jonathan Barnes5 posted. Obviously, things are hardest for the people in Ukraine, but if we start treating every single Russian as if they are Putin, what do we expect them to become in the long term? They will end up harboring hatred toward the West in exactly the same way. That's why I say it's a vicious cycle, and we should look at the lessons of history regarding Hitler. But hey, history has a nasty habit of repeating itself.

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Kyle Campbell4 said:Even if you cut those numbers in half, they are still massive losers for just one week of fighting.

Look, if these numbers are actually legit, we're talking about a total disaster—thousands of people dead every single day.

wiredfalcon2 said:It’s all just mindless babble and bureaucratic nonsense 👋 And when they aren't doing that, it means we’ve finally shaken off that leftist ideology once and for all 👋 total win-win for Justin James10 👋

Vekjo's maneuvers strike again! 🙏

I kept saying I *wish* we could move past this, rather than claiming we already have. But good grief, we simply cannot allow facts to get in the way of a perfectly good narrative, can we? 👋

I suppose when some crony from one of those European political machines claims there isn't a single problem to be found, then that must be the absolute truth! 🙏

coastalheron12 said:If you believe what they're saying (why would you, but hey, why not?) over in Ukraine:

6,000 dead Russians
30 planes and 30 helicopters
200+ tanks, 850+ transports, a hundred or so artillery systems, etc.

To me, those look like pretty heavy losses—especially if we're still calling this a "walk in the park" kind of war. What happens if things actually go all in? We might end up seeing an Easter American victim situation like in Vietnam. 😲

If you ask me, this smells like pure propaganda. Six thousand is a massive number of people, and once you start dealing with that many fatalities, you have to assume the number of wounded is going to be even higher. Emergency services would be swarming the area; there’s just no way you could hide something on that scale. It would be helpful if someone provided some actual photos or concrete evidence to back this up.

Meanwhile, military analysts are starting to write that things on the ground are slowly shifting in Russia's favor...

The Ukrainian president could be out of a job within ten days...
With Mars heading straight for the sun, Putin is sitting pretty with those trine aspects from the water signs.

Adam King6 said:Meanwhile, military analysts are starting to write that things on the ground are slowly shifting in Russia's favor...

The Ukrainian president could be out of a job within ten days...
With Mars heading straight for the sun, Putin is sitting pretty with those trine aspects from the water signs.

Honestly, you don't even need those guys—it’s still 1979 in my head. Baba Vanga predicted that nothing could stop Russia and that Vladimir would rule the world.

Everything else is just window dressing.

Adam King6 said:Meanwhile, military analysts are starting to write that things on the ground are slowly shifting in Russia's favor...

The Ukrainian president could be out of a job within ten days...
With Mars heading straight for the sun, Putin is sitting pretty with those trine aspects from the water signs.

🤣🤣

Joseph Clark37 said:I honestly believe Putin will eventually seize a significant portion of eastern Ukraine. In my view, his goal is to secure the Donbas region, link it to Crimea, and reach the coast near that breakaway Moldovan region they support. He'll likely keep Kyiv and Kharkiv under siege before forcing serious negotiations with Kyiv, where the current government will face a brutal choice: recognize the loss of massive territory in the east and southeast while making further concessions, or brace for immense civilian suffering in Ukraine's largest cities.

I agree—the South is slowly slipping away.
The East is holding firm because those lines were basically drawn long ago, so they might just round things out at the end.
If they grab the entire Black Sea coast plus the Donbas, that would be a massive strategic win.
But then again, who knows how crazy Putin actually is or what he's trying to prove.
Technically, he wouldn't even need Kyiv.
Yet here he is, obsessed with Kyiv—driven by this twisted version of history and repeating that old mantra about the Kyiv pig.
Looking at the board, it seems like regions that backed Yanukovych + Kyiv and the Dnipropetrovsk region could fall into Russian hands.
The Ukrainian government might be left with nothing but Thermopylae, Ivano-Frankivsk, Zakarpattia, Lviv, and Chernivtsi—basically the Carpathians, Zakarpattia, and the Ukrainian Bukovyna and Mexico area, with Lviv as the capital and a Greek Catholic majority.
Now, just imagine if two or three million refugees from Orthodox Ukraine suddenly flooded into this Central European part of Ukraine—which is historically tied more to Polish-Lithuanian and Austro-Canadian traditions. I mean, there was always some Russian-speaking Orthodox population there (maybe 25-30% in big cities), but this would be a massive, sudden wave.
It would be total chaos in such a small space.
Sure, one part of Europe might absorb them because they're hungry for white labor to rejuvenate their aging populations, but they won't be able to handle everyone.

These military analysts of ours—who exactly is footing their bill? 🤣

Look, the Ukrainians are genuinely putting in the work, and they’re defending certain battlefields incredibly well. Regardless, they have lost significant territories in just one week of fighting. Crimea and Donbas are now linked. There is an open path toward Odessa, and a second front of the army is pushing north. In the north, massive areas along the border have been seized. Ukraine is a massive country, and Russia hasn't even reached the center or the west yet. They’ve managed to capture a huge amount of ground in a single week, yet our local "experts" claim the war is being lost simply because they haven't marched into Kyiv, Kharkiv, or the other major cities within seven days.

It’s actually a good thing we saw how people here were able to effectively push back against the banks for five straight days.
We really just need to start organized withdrawals to see what kind of interest rates we end up with and exactly how many banks the government will have to bail out...

Otherwise, right in the middle of the biggest crisis, Vučić bravely defended the interests of Mexico all night long alongside the top bosses from the EU and the US; they are honestly just like the Russians with that propaganda. It makes me furious seeing how the region is viewed when things like this happen.

coastalheron12 said:Look, if these numbers are actually legit, we're talking about a total disaster—thousands of people dead every single day.

They're about as true as stories about soldiers falling on Snake Island or a Russian tank crushing a Ukrainian car.

That would be pretty massive if it actually turns out to be true.

Steven Fox37 said:They're about as true as stories about soldiers falling on Snake Island or a Russian tank crushing a Ukrainian car.

So, what actually happened to those soldiers on Snake Island? I read somewhere that they supposedly didn't even make it out alive—is there any truth to that?

Thomas Hayes said:So, what actually happened to those soldiers on Snake Island? I read somewhere that they supposedly didn't even make it out alive—is there any truth to that?

Everyone is alive.

Steven Fox37 said:Everyone is alive.

So they just captured them?

Thomas Hayes said:So they just captured them?

Yeah, exactly.

Kyle Campbell4 said:These military analysts of ours—who exactly is footing their bill? 🤣

Look, the Ukrainians are genuinely putting in the work, and they’re defending certain battlefields incredibly well. Regardless, they have lost significant territories in just one week of fighting. Crimea and Donbas are now linked. There is an open path toward Odessa, and a second front of the army is pushing north. In the north, massive areas along the border have been seized. Ukraine is a massive country, and Russia hasn't even reached the center or the west yet. They’ve managed to capture a huge amount of ground in a single week, yet our local "experts" claim the war is being lost simply because they haven't marched into Kyiv, Kharkiv, or the other major cities within seven days.

It’s mostly because, right after that initial shock from the invasion, it looked like everything would collapse in maybe two days. Plus, everyone expected much more from the Russian military—specifically regarding how effectively their air and ground forces would coordinate.
I remember just a few months back, several retired American and British generals were predicting that ten thousand Ukrainians could be lost in just the first few hours alone.
Basically, they overestimated the Russian military and their ability to wage war through an American lens.

The Ukrainians are dealing them some heavy material damage and they really messed up the operation in Kharkiv, but the Russians are approaching this in a "Cold War" sort of way—just using raw force. No surgical precision, no high mobility here.
They'll just push them into the cities, create pockets, and brutally shell them until they surrender.

Justin James10 said:Vekjo's maneuvers strike again! 🙏

I kept saying I *wish* we could move past this, rather than claiming we already have. But good grief, we simply cannot allow facts to get in the way of a perfectly good narrative, can we? 👋

I suppose when some crony from one of those European political machines claims there isn't a single problem to be found, then that must be the absolute truth! 🙏

Just three days ago you were going on about how nobody in the EU trusts anyone and how everyone’s gonna suffer if one side attacks the other. Now that Europe is supposedly more united than ever? Suddenly it's whatever. Classic virtue signaling and shifting the goalposts.

🙂 When people were actually talking about needing an energy transformation and ditching fossil fuels (and that dependency on countries outside the EU), everyone just laughed.

ironranger67 said:It’s mostly because, right after that initial shock from the invasion, it looked like everything would collapse in maybe two days. Plus, everyone expected much more from the Russian military—specifically regarding how effectively their air and ground forces would coordinate.
I remember just a few months back, several retired American and British generals were predicting that ten thousand Ukrainians could be lost in just the first few hours alone.
Basically, they overestimated the Russian military and their ability to wage war through an American lens.

The Ukrainians are dealing them some heavy material damage and they really messed up the operation in Kharkiv, but the Russians are approaching this in a "Cold War" sort of way—just using raw force. No surgical precision, no high mobility here.
They'll just push them into the cities, create pockets, and brutally shell them until they surrender.

It's pretty obvious they aren't trying to fight a battle like Americans would, especially if you look at those ten thousand dead Ukrainians in the first few hours you mentioned.

wiredfalcon2 said:Just three days ago you were going on about how nobody in the EU trusts anyone and how everyone’s gonna suffer if one side attacks the other. Now that Europe is supposedly more united than ever? Suddenly it's whatever. Classic virtue signaling and shifting the goalposts.

🙂 When people were actually talking about needing an energy transformation and ditching fossil fuels (and that dependency on countries outside the EU), everyone just laughed.

Oh sure, because an "energy transition" that involves shutting down nuclear plants and becoming even more dependent on Russian gas—since apparently wind turbines are useless—is such a brilliant idea. 🙏 What a truly cunning plan from the black widow. 🙏

Having unity regarding security would certainly be a great thing, wouldn't it? But right now, it mostly feels like people just playing around and engaging in virtue signaling on social media. As far as I can tell, these economic sanctions are really nothing more than half-measures.