Offside (General Discussion)

Those guys from Azov are acting more like our own rogue militias than actual soldiers—they honestly seem to cause more headaches than they provide help. Is it really that difficult to organize them into a proper, disciplined unit with standard military markings? And now we have this specific battalion acting like they’re running the whole show from within Ukraine. 🤣 It’s honestly some high-level propaganda straight out of Belgrade.

Kyle Campbell4 said:How can they claim they aren't letting anyone through when the gates have already swung open and they were forced to retreat?🤔

It is patently obvious that the Russian side will attempt to shift the blame onto Ukraine, accusing them of being the ones responsible for the ceasefire collapse.

We’re getting our news from completely opposing sources, so why on earth would we expect anything other than conflicting reports?

Jonathan Barnes5 said:

fadedridge903 As if I were to say:
It feels as though the Russians are being hit by everything from heavy artillery to a relentless barrage of fire. 🤷
It seems the Azov fighters aren't letting any civilians escape from Mariupol either.

Looking back through the annals of military history and studying various combat units, I don't recall ever encountering a battle group of just a thousand souls being leveraged so heavily by the media. It seems like quite an unusual way to frame the scale of a conflict.

If you look at the evidence regarding the presence of neo-Nazis in Ukraine, you'll see those specific flags being flown by the Azov regiment—flags that you can just as easily spot in the stands during matches for teams like Spartak or Zenit.🤣.

If you look back at history, the only ones who managed to achieve greater fame despite having far fewer people on their side were Leonidas and his Spartans.

It’s truly staggering how far propaganda can be pushed these days—down to the level of manufacturing a thousand-person skirmish out of thin air. Honestly, you’d have to be completely disconnected from reality to swallow those stories.

The Azov guys have drifted so far from the mainstream that even the Ukrainian government ended up sending a missile straight to their warehouse headquarters.

Justin James10 said:Those guys from Azov are acting more like our own rogue militias than actual soldiers—they honestly seem to cause more headaches than they provide help. Is it really that difficult to organize them into a proper, disciplined unit with standard military markings? And now we have this specific battalion acting like they’re running the whole show from within Ukraine. 🤣 It’s honestly some high-level propaganda straight out of Belgrade.

Exactly. A good friend of mine was telling me about them recently, and he isn't even the type to follow war news. They come across like some sort of specialized paramilitary wing, just a small, tight-knit group of maybe four divisions at most, operating entirely on their own terms.🤣

Sure, a small clique will break away and start terrorizing everyone else. Honestly, what kind of obsession with Russia is this, where people just blindly believe everything they hear? I still can't wrap my head around the fact that someone from our own Mostar circle thinks this way.

Of course we consult various sources, even if their reporting is going to be biased. That’s exactly why you need to use your own head and apply some actual logic.

A city completely surrounded. A city that has endured days of relentless shelling from every possible direction. A city where people can't even clear the dead because the bodies are scattered everywhere and the bombardment simply never stops. A city facing a total humanitarian catastrophe because there is zero access to water or food. And then, on top of all that, the Ukrainians themselves break the very ceasefire they called for—because apparently, having bombs dropped on their heads isn't enough. It seems perfectly logical. They’ll likely use whatever weapons they have left to provoke the Russians into completely leveling them. A Mexican news outlet would be proud if they could see this.

Regardless of all that mindless propaganda being pushed around, it’s pretty obvious why Azov makes such an easy target for them. It really comes down to those fucking runes in their emblem and a handful of idiots within the ranks who make stupid outbursts or wear questionable patches. Honestly, people like that do nothing but cause damage.

Here is more footage of those so-called Russian liberators near Ivankiv. A father and his son set out simply to save their three dogs. On their way back, they encountered a Russian convoy that opened fire on them without hesitation. The father was killed, the son was wounded, and two of their three dogs perished. How many more innocent lives must be extinguished before anyone finally understands the true nature of this invasion?

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Honestly, who would even fall for that? Only complete morons actually buy into their propaganda... I mean, just look at what they say about the Wagner Group's water supply, or better yet, take a look at those tattoos on him...

Justin James10 said:Regardless of all that mindless propaganda being pushed around, it’s pretty obvious why Azov makes such an easy target for them. It really comes down to those fucking runes in their emblem and a handful of idiots within the ranks who make stupid outbursts or wear questionable patches. Honestly, people like that do nothing but cause damage.

I completely agree here. Once you look at the original commander and the founders he was describing, you realize just how much of a mess the whole situation is. Within their ranks, you will find both extremists and less radical types, but the radicals are few in number while the propaganda paints them as if they were an entire army the size of a regular military force.

shadowcobra89 said:Honestly, who would even fall for that? Only complete morons actually buy into their propaganda... I mean, just look at what they say about the Wagner Group's water supply, or better yet, take a look at those tattoos on him...

Feen constantly tries to lean on that argument, but the people pushing it are basically just sucking dick because they have no actual comeback. Putin has everything under his thumb, from skinhead gangs and nationalist groups to hardcore soccer hooligans. In the past, he used those crowds to crush protests; once the war started, he recruited directly from those very same ranks. To make matters worse, his entire war machine relies on those bearded extremists from Chechnya. It’s laughable how everyone wants to go to war over a small group from Azov while completely ignoring the massive collection of fighters actually backing the little man.

Kyle Campbell4 said:I completely agree here. Once you look at the original commander and the founders he was describing, you realize just how much of a mess the whole situation is. Within their ranks, you will find both extremists and less radical types, but the radicals are few in number while the propaganda paints them as if they were an entire army the size of a regular military force.

And let's be real—enemy propaganda absolutely loves having targets like this to feast on. Doesn't the government need to step in and establish some actual order?

Justin James10 said:And let's be real—enemy propaganda absolutely loves having targets like this to feast on. Doesn't the government need to step in and establish some actual order?

They have already been brought under control because they are part of the regular military, and there is simply no chance for them to act on their own whims.

Now, listen to this.

Monday's negotiations between the Ukrainians and the Russians:

That last guy from the Ukrainian side? He was a complete fraud. Just a few days after everything unfolded, it turns out he was actually a Russian agent, and they took him out.

I mean, think about it—you have five or six people in an embassy representing the entire nation, sitting there to negotiate an end to the war, and one of them is working for the other side. A literal Russian agent right in the middle of it. 🙏

Fuck, man, that means the Russians must have planted him deep within the Ukrainian system at least twenty years ago just so he could climb the ladder to this exact position today. It’s absolutely mind-blowing.

And off goes Zara. Honestly, it’s those women surrounding Putin who are going to be the ones to bring him down.

Paul Sanders5 said:And off goes Zara. Honestly, it’s those women surrounding Putin who are going to be the ones to bring him down.

Real revolution starts when you pull the plug on Instagram.

I mean, could Putin actually make that massive tactical blunder—actually stripping millions of his Russian sponsors of their most precious, narcissistic little digital playground?

So Putin is now on TV explaining his justifications for the invasion of Ukraine to a room full of Russian trainee Air stewardesses...
Just bizarre...

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mellowotter36 said:So Putin is now on TV explaining his justifications for the invasion of Ukraine to a room full of Russian trainee Air stewardesses...
Just bizarre...

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I guess that means he’s keeping his inner circle at arm's length—pure paranoia, really.

If this isn't staged, it looks way too bizarre to be true.

nimbleranger17 said:Now, listen to this.

Monday's negotiations between the Ukrainians and the Russians:

That last guy from the Ukrainian side? He was a complete fraud. Just a few days after everything unfolded, it turns out he was actually a Russian agent, and they took him out.

I mean, think about it—you have five or six people in an embassy representing the entire nation, sitting there to negotiate an end to the war, and one of them is working for the other side. A literal Russian agent right in the middle of it. 🙏

Fuck, man, that means the Russians must have planted him deep within the Ukrainian system at least twenty years ago just so he could climb the ladder to this exact position today. It’s absolutely mind-blowing.

He was dealt with immediately.
The real question is—how many more are embedded in the Ukrainian security services?
Then you have all these various defense advisors scattered through the regions.
The kind of people who advise you *not* to blow up a bridge—even though the enemy army will be rolling into your city via that very bridge in two days.
I honestly have this gut feeling—this deep suspicion—that you can't trust anyone over there.
Road markings, Russian soldiers wearing Ukrainian uniforms, and those strange regional leaders who always seem "surprised" by everything.

Justin James10 said:Regardless of all that mindless propaganda being pushed around, it’s pretty obvious why Azov makes such an easy target for them. It really comes down to those fucking runes in their emblem and a handful of idiots within the ranks who make stupid outbursts or wear questionable patches. Honestly, people like that do nothing but cause damage.

If it weren't for them, his opponents would just find some other Nazi scapegoat or whatever else they need to fuel their narrative; meanwhile, he’d just be crushing the morale of his own people by demanding this impossible level of purity.

The reality is that nobody actually cares, and as long as they're fighting the same enemies, the whole country can be labeled whatever they want—just like how the entire West was perfectly fine cooperating with the USSR whenever it suited their interests.

The patient has basically made it illegal to call this thing a war, but I guess some TV networks are finally starting to lock in the truth 🙏

If this country actually started bragging about Ante Pavelić or using those old Ustaše salutes, then we'd have a real reason to talk about de-fascistization. Beyond that, the way they’ve treated the Russian language lately is just plain repulsive.
It isn't just a grievance held by Russians, either; even the Canadians in Ukraine are making noise about it.