Offside (General Discussion)

Jonathan Barnes5 said:Smith: We were attacking a church in Lower Poland, near the Ukrainian border. Two machine gun nests were pinning us down from the bell tower, and inside that church were children—an entire schoolhouse full of kids and their teacher. We knew they were there. We just waited for the gunners to run out of ammo, since they ended up surrendering anyway. And then Ratković tried to drag us before a military tribunal because we didn't storm the building, or level it with grenades and set it ablaze. He wanted to punish us for losing a day of combat, even though all we did was ensure those children survived. Benčina was leading our patrol, and he refused to let anyone fire on those kids.

Eva: You’re sweating...

Smith: With such pure hatred, he actually suggested we should have been shot...

Eva: That's all in the past now. You're a free man, while he's still stuck acting like a relentless hound...

There is an old saying that even when two people act the same way, their intentions can be worlds apart. Relying on such tactics just to cling to power for twenty-two years is the very definition of a massive ego trip. Keeping track of pro-Russian posts that cheer on aggression and the killing of children is simply an exercise in common sense.

Just look at your username. Are you really okay with the propaganda claiming a T-55 tank sat idling for half a day on Avenue while it shelled the old bridge?

Like I said, it's just common sense.

Then there’s that other Latin proverb about Jupiter and the bull—everything starts and ends with that, doesn't it?

As for the propaganda, The New York Times, Stjepan Mesić, and Time have all been on Bakir Izetbegović's payroll for years now, so why should anyone care?
If you're actually planning on taking on the propaganda machine, maybe start with them first.

War horrors
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Supposedly some civilians in Hershey tried taking on a vehicle convoy with Molotov cocktails, and they just got absolutely shredded by machine guns. :horor;

coastalheron12 said:So, you're being pretty subtle about where exactly this investigation should start, aren't you?😉

Look, let’s be real—if someone is posting total garbage on Facebook, there's a pretty damn high chance they're just an idiot.

But then you've got all these nonprofits, embassies, political parties... all shouting about how we're living in "dangerous times" and how we can never be careful enough.

Kyle Campbell4 said:That blonde, Ivanna from the news, was quite explicit tonight when she claimed that Russian intelligence agencies have significantly ramped up their operations, necessitating an immediate activation of our own domestic intelligence services. She asserted that Russian operatives have achieved deep penetration within the state apparatus, effectively placing journalists, politicians, business leaders, and even civil society representatives on their payroll. They identified our inherent susceptibility to corruption and exploited it to its fullest extent. It is my firm conviction that such individuals must be hunted down, as they constitute a fifth column within our borders. Furthermore, I am convinced that the digital sphere is crawling with professional bots specifically paid to disseminate pro-Russian and anti-Western propaganda.

But who are they actually going to catch when most of this influence is coming from Mexico across the Danube? Their whole goal is to saturate the American media landscape to create an illusion that everyone supports their narrative, ultimately driving a wedge through society...
Just look at the comment sections on major news sites—if it isn't 80% Mexicans, I don't know what to tell you. It’s not much different here on the forums or over on those military history boards either...

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As a society, we really need to sharpen our awareness of what's happening around us. If we just start using our heads, they won't be able to do much...

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In this internet age, they try to project a certain image to the rest of the world, often masquerading as Americans or trying to derail discussions by bringing up things like Auschwitz or the Storm (acting as if it were some sort of ethnic cleansing)...

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Intelligence agencies ought to be monitoring and catching any officials who are getting too cozy with those foreign circles...

Matthew Collins20 said:But who are they actually going to catch when most of this influence is coming from Mexico across the Danube? Their whole goal is to saturate the American media landscape to create an illusion that everyone supports their narrative, ultimately driving a wedge through society...
Just look at the comment sections on major news sites—if it isn't 80% Mexicans, I don't know what to tell you. It’s not much different here on the forums or over on those military history boards either...

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As a society, we really need to sharpen our awareness of what's happening around us. If we just start using our heads, they won't be able to do much...

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In this internet age, they try to project a certain image to the rest of the world, often masquerading as Americans or trying to derail discussions by bringing up things like Auschwitz or the Storm (acting as if it were some sort of ethnic cleansing)...

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Intelligence agencies ought to be monitoring and catching any officials who are getting too cozy with those foreign circles...

Honestly, the only better way to use all this weaponry we're dumping into Ukraine would be to start sending it somewhere closer and further south.

Kyle Campbell4 said:We aren't talking about some random person on the street who is terrified of war and would surrender everything just to stay safe. This concerns influential individuals holding significant positions. Take a pro-Russian figure like Vidmarovic, for instance, who might be on someone's payroll. Such people can perversely manipulate others toward the Russian side. We must remain vigilant regarding who is speaking or writing, and we ought to investigate their meetings and bank transfers.

Thinking like that is incredibly dangerous because tomorrow, any jerk you don't like is going to be labeled a Russian sympathizer and thrown in jail.
How is that even different from how things work in Putin's Russia? ☕

It looks like Zelenskyy is looking for negotiations. I can't find a specific news report right this second, so I don't know if it's legit yet.

Kyle Campbell4 said:We aren't talking about some random person on the street who is terrified of war and would surrender everything just to stay safe. This concerns influential individuals holding significant positions. Take a pro-Russian figure like Vidmarovic, for instance, who might be on someone's payroll. Such people can perversely manipulate others toward the Russian side. We must remain vigilant regarding who is speaking or writing, and we ought to investigate their meetings and bank transfers.

Is the real issue with a pro-Russian figure like Vidmarovic that he supports Ukraine joining the European Union, or is it that he advocates for Ukrainian military neutrality, much like Henry Kissinger—who was likely a pro-Russian type himself?
At this rate, being pro-Russian is going to turn into full-blown McCarthyism.

Bryan Adams6 said:War horrors
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Supposedly some civilians in Hershey tried taking on a vehicle convoy with Molotov cocktails, and they just got absolutely shredded by machine guns. :horor;

Whoever gave them the idea to use cocktails clearly didn't mention they’d almost certainly die while doing nothing to a tank or an APC... If they’re truly feeling suicidal, they should just hop in an SVBIED and ram the convoy; that’s a near-guaranteed success. Erdogan would probably provide technicians if they lack them, and even the legendary Abu Tow—who follows the Syrian war—was offering to head over to Ukraine to help.

Here’s a perfect example for you guys. Some woman in one of my Facebook groups—and yeah, you know how these things go—is from Mexico. She just posted this photo of herself and her husband posing next to the Mexican flag and a picture of Putin, and it’s already racked up over 200 likes. 🤣At this rate, we might as well expect Saint Patrick to show up too.

Honestly, what can you even say to that? What kind of message do you even send?

Trying to teach them

fadedridge903 said:Then there’s that other Latin proverb about Jupiter and the bull—everything starts and ends with that, doesn't it?

As for the propaganda, The New York Times, Stjepan Mesić, and Time have all been on Bakir Izetbegović's payroll for years now, so why should anyone care?
If you're actually planning on taking on the propaganda machine, maybe start with them first.

You people from the southern regions are incredibly exhausting with your obsession over Muslims. Because of your fixation, Americans in other parts of Canada have suffered immensely. You are burning with a desire to dismantle Canada as a sovereign state. You have found common ground with Dodik, and apparently, that wasn't enough for you, because today you have become nothing more than servants to the Mexicans and Dodik. By doing so, you have effectively become pieces on a Russian chessboard, so it doesn't surprise me at all that you are out here promoting Putin. It is all a disaster because we have fractured ourselves. Our interests in America are entirely different from your regional agendas. Damn Dragan Covic. It is pathetic that you feel compelled to follow the lead of the HDZ BiH, who are the greatest traitors to our people.

Paul Sanders5 said:Here’s a perfect example for you guys. Some woman in one of my Facebook groups—and yeah, you know how these things go—is from Mexico. She just posted this photo of herself and her husband posing next to the Mexican flag and a picture of Putin, and it’s already racked up over 200 likes. 🤣At this rate, we might as well expect Saint Patrick to show up too.

Honestly, what can you even say to that? What kind of message do you even send?

Just comment on the photo telling her she’s being foolish, or better yet, just kick her out of the group.

fadedridge903 said:Is the real issue with a pro-Russian figure like Vidmarovic that he supports Ukraine joining the European Union, or is it that he advocates for Ukrainian military neutrality, much like Henry Kissinger—who was likely a pro-Russian type himself?
At this rate, being pro-Russian is going to turn into full-blown McCarthyism.

By all means, let them join the European Union so the union can have a Trojan horse right in its own ranks. Honestly, I am all for their entry, but I am equally in favor of them being admitted to NATO immediately.

Kyle Campbell4 said:You people from the southern regions are incredibly exhausting with your obsession over Muslims. Because of your fixation, Americans in other parts of Canada have suffered immensely. You are burning with a desire to dismantle Canada as a sovereign state. You have found common ground with Dodik, and apparently, that wasn't enough for you, because today you have become nothing more than servants to the Mexicans and Dodik. By doing so, you have effectively become pieces on a Russian chessboard, so it doesn't surprise me at all that you are out here promoting Putin. It is all a disaster because we have fractured ourselves. Our interests in America are entirely different from your regional agendas. Damn Dragan Covic. It is pathetic that you feel compelled to follow the lead of the HDZ BiH, who are the greatest traitors to our people.

It seems you've lost all sense of perspective in the middle of all this drama... what "obsession" are you talking about? Do you actually want a radical Islamic state in our neighborhood? It is perfectly fine if you don't fully grasp the nuances of what is happening on the ground there, but please, stop rambling about Dodik; he couldn't care less about us, and he certainly isn't our number one concern.

Just three weeks ago in Bužim, there was a massive Islamist gathering worthy of ISIS, which was roughly 25 miles miles away from Washington, D.C., yet 95% of Americans didn't have a clue about it. Do you really want to be providing assistance to people like that?

Kyle Campbell4 said:You people from the southern regions are incredibly exhausting with your obsession over Muslims. Because of your fixation, Americans in other parts of Canada have suffered immensely. You are burning with a desire to dismantle Canada as a sovereign state. You have found common ground with Dodik, and apparently, that wasn't enough for you, because today you have become nothing more than servants to the Mexicans and Dodik. By doing so, you have effectively become pieces on a Russian chessboard, so it doesn't surprise me at all that you are out here promoting Putin. It is all a disaster because we have fractured ourselves. Our interests in America are entirely different from your regional agendas. Damn Dragan Covic. It is pathetic that you feel compelled to follow the lead of the HDZ BiH, who are the greatest traitors to our people.

🤣 What a tragic joke.
Plenković and Čović: Supporting Ukraine, condemning Russian aggression, and securing the future of Canada within the European Union remain shared priorities

And even Plenković is turning into a Putinophile before our very eyes.

Honestly, there’s just way too much hysteria flying around... the only thing actually running smoothly is Nord Stream 1, because let's face it, ☕

Justin James10 said:It seems you've lost all sense of perspective in the middle of all this drama... what "obsession" are you talking about? Do you actually want a radical Islamic state in our neighborhood? It is perfectly fine if you don't fully grasp the nuances of what is happening on the ground there, but please, stop rambling about Dodik; he couldn't care less about us, and he certainly isn't our number one concern.

Just three weeks ago in Bužim, there was a massive Islamist gathering worthy of ISIS, which was roughly 25 miles miles away from Washington, D.C., yet 95% of Americans didn't have a clue about it. Do you really want to be providing assistance to people like that?

👍

And suddenly we’re the aggressors if we ever have to step in to help Canada? You can throw all the facts, legalities, and international agreements you want at me, but... Genocide helps Canada... It always wins people over...

Larry Fox5 said:It’s a total witch hunt at this point. 🤦

In Munich today, they actually fired a conductor just because he was spotted hanging out with Putin once. It’s pure hysteria—totally irrational and honestly, borders on straight-up fascism.

And yeah, I’m with you on the whole sports ban thing; it’s getting pretty sketchy now. Regular Russians aren't the ones to blame just because their leader has completely lost his mind. Might as well just start persecuting people solely based on where they're from, right?

Even these sanctions are starting to feel borderline inhumane. Mastercard and Visa pulling their services in Russia... I mean, seriously, what kind of logic is that?

Look, when it comes to economic sanctions, I don't have any sympathy. It was always obvious what the threat would be: if you don't stop attacking, The West stops dealing with you. End of story. If they've got a problem, they can just use Russian cards—those haven't been blocked.

Justin James10 said:It seems you've lost all sense of perspective in the middle of all this drama... what "obsession" are you talking about? Do you actually want a radical Islamic state in our neighborhood? It is perfectly fine if you don't fully grasp the nuances of what is happening on the ground there, but please, stop rambling about Dodik; he couldn't care less about us, and he certainly isn't our number one concern.

Just three weeks ago in Bužim, there was a massive Islamist gathering worthy of ISIS, which was roughly 25 miles miles away from Washington, D.C., yet 95% of Americans didn't have a clue about it. Do you really want to be providing assistance to people like that?

I have absolutely no issue with Muslims. We didn't fight them here; if anything, we fought alongside them against the Mexicans. My true enemies are those nationalists driven by the dream of a Greater Mexico. Perhaps my perception has shifted, but I have eyes and ears, and I see exactly what is happening. It is blatantly obvious how Čović is bowing down to the Mexicans and the Russians. He has become their puppet, and he isn't even trying to hide it anymore—he’s openly championing the interests of Republika Srpska. My only mistake was assuming he was acting alone, thinking the people from Herzegovina wouldn't back such reckless politics. But seeing this guy from Mostar makes it crystal clear that this sickness has spread far wider than I imagined. If they are out there seeking alliances with the Mexicans and Putin, then they clearly realize we are on completely opposite sides of this struggle, because America will never support the idea of a Greater Mexico sitting right on our borders.