Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith

Watched it yesterday. Look, I love sci-fi as much as the next guy, but seriously, don't go making this stuff if you've got absolutely nothing better to do with your lives... what a joke.

Is it out in theaters yet?
If so, I'm heading straight to the cinema to see 🙂

Has Janeway made an appearance yet? By the way, I really think they should wrap up the Star Trek: The Next Generation movies once and for all.. It’s time to move on to Star Trek: Voyager 😁

Man, I’m over here in the States... I don't think it's even hit the screens here yet.
Just a bunch of sentimental garbage wrapped up in some mediocre special effects. If you ask me, it's easily the absolute worst entry in the entire Star Trek franchise...

It’s just in one single scene, where he plays some kind of fleet commander or something like that...

Is it really possible that it’s actually worse than Star Trek: First Contact!?

Part 1 - a masterpiece
Part 2 - I don't quite recall
Part 3 - a masterpiece
Part 4 - a masterpiece
Part 5 - absolute garbage!
Part 6 - a total gut punch
Part 7 - very good
Part 8 - what the f...?
Part 9 - decent... if you consider it a pilot episode
Part 10 - ???

Richard Howard2, I am going to have to strongly disagree with you on this one.
What you’re saying is absolute sacrilege for any true Trekkie.

So...

Part 1 - A Masterpiece

This is about as close to the truth as you can get—it’s certainly not a masterpiece, but I’ll give it credit where it's due.

Part two—I don't quite recall the details.

I am absolutely losing my mind here. Let me be clear: The Wrath of Khan is hands down the greatest sci-fi film ever made. Richard Howard2, go back and read the manual...

Part 3 — A Masterpiece.

Hey there.
Searching for Spock? There’s no Spock left in him—unless you count the director's chair.
This movie is an absolute disaster.

Part 4 — A masterpiece.

As for the first installment, it isn't exactly a masterpiece, but I'd say it's a solid effort.

Part 5 is absolute garbage!

Exactly, William Shatner. He simply doesn't know. Directing.

Part 6 - Hit me with a sucker punch.

Absolutely terrible. Truly appalling.
Go back and read the book, Richard Howard2. 🙂

Part 7 - highly impressive.

I am truly losing my mind here. How on earth can anyone claim that Generations is actually good? It is easily the worst entry in the entire franchise. Even the fifth installment, with the infamous William Shatner directing, doesn't even come close to competing with the absolute disaster that is this film.
what are you ??

Part 8 — what on earth is going on...?

I have to say, nothing beats using a pickaxe.

Part 9 — It’s a solid start, honestly... especially for a pilot episode.

The truth is, I agree. 🙂

To ensure there are no misconceptions, I do not consider Star Wars to be science fiction. 🙂

Honestly, Nemesis is just total space junk 🙂

"I'm seriously losing consciousness over here. Look, The Wrath of Khan is easily the greatest sci-fi movie ever made (1). Richard Howard2, read the room... "

Listen, I agree it's the best of the Star Trek bunch, but calling it the absolute king of all cinema? Yeah, not quite.
There are better ones out there—at least if you ask me—like Solaris (and I mean the Andrei Tarkovsky version, not that garbage starring George Clooney), 2001: A Space Odyssey, Alien, and plenty of others.
By the way, for all you sci-fi junkies out there, Rendezvous with Rama, based on the novella by Arthur C. Clarke, is finally coming out in 2004.

Alright, maybe I went a little overboard there....
But isn't that just human nature???

But seriously, how could anyone possibly forget that movie?
Good grief....

Richard Howard2, if you need a refresher, I can lend you my copy or even record it so you can catch up. 🙂

lonescout2 said:Fine, maybe I exaggerated just a tiny bit....
But don't we all???

But surely you remember that movie?
Good grief....

Richard Howard2, if you need a reminder, I can lend you my copy or record it so you can watch it 🙂

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Thanks, no need; I'll just grab DVD The Wrath of Khan. I saw it when I was a kid and I barely remember a thing about it, and it hasn't been in any video rental stores until now, just released on DVD.

I hope ABC starts airing Star Trek movies on Sunday afternoons soon... (the films, I mean)

Regarding my classification: everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I will actually provide my reasoning:

1. Star Trek: The Motion Picture

Even though much of it was lifted from the series, it is a top-tier achievement that implements a high-level philosophy regarding existence and the man-machine relationship, paired with excellent special effects for its time. It's full of incredible locations born from wild imaginations, raising profound questions about friendship and emotion—not in a pedestrian way, but in a perfectly philosophical manner. The story involving V'Ger is incredible!

2. Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan

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3. Star Trek: The Search for Spock

Just because Spock isn't there doesn't mean the film is automatically bad. Again, superb worlds, great plot, and incredible action sequences and ship battles—even without Spock, the wisdom and logic remain indestructible. The charisma of the entire crew is amazing, as is the concept of Genesis, which carries a message. It conveys the idea of that famous line: the needs of many... Spaceships, stations, lasers, planets, transwarp drive, and that characteristic music... all hallmarks of great sci-fi. Featuring, of course, an excellent Christopher Lloyd...

4. ST IV: The Voyage Home - an incredibly fun story dealing with the old theme of returning to our era: a completely new concept where Star Trek humor takes a more prominent role, and it doesn't cheapen the film at all; rather, it enriches it because it perfectly illustrates the characters. A significant environmental message (which wasn't a cliché back then).
Unforgettable scenes in the hospital...

5. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

It was so bad I think I had nightmares: no, no, it can't be Star Trek... no! Uhura seducing vagrants, Kirk bickering with a foolish prophet and finally with a self-proclaimed God, forced humor and combat lacking any charm... terrible!

6. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

I don't remember this one very well either, but the attempt at a new concept that strayed totally from the old Star Trek atmosphere turned out to be a complete failure.

7. Star Trek: Generations

A solid effort where the transition to the new generation prepared in the series takes place. Great special effects, plenty of combat and space travel, Klingons, and the honorable departure of Kirk and his old crew.

8. Star Trek: First Contact

This altogether foolish film by the idiotic, self-important first officer Jonathan Frakes has exactly one redeeming quality: the introduction of the Borg. In fact, after the Klingons and the Romulans, the Borg proved to be a new and greater challenge for the Star Trek heroes, intriguing viewers with their excellent concept. Unfortunately, the film looks like it was directed by Roland Emmerich during his Universal Soldier phase—nothing but foolish thugs, a post-apocalyptic vision of the future, and stupid spikes. An attempt at humor.

9. Star Trek: Insurrection

This episode feels like someone spliced two episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation together, where they arrive at a sequence of planets and solve local problems, but this time with better effects. I have seen far more impressive episodes in the series. Jonathan Frakes tried to insert himself into stronger directorial roles. Unsuccessfully, of course.
Who on earth gave him the director's baton...
10. Star Trek: Nemesis

For me, the standout entries have always been 1, 4, 6, and 8... though I haven't revisited the third one in quite a while, so my memory is a bit fuzzy. Honestly, I don't get why some people trash Star Trek: First Contact; I found it incredibly gripping. It delivers plenty of action, which is always a welcome change for Star Trek films, and Alice Krige is absolutely phenomenal as the Borg Queen... plus, that opening score is just stunning! 😉
ktome, I’ve never been the type to completely bash a weaker installment of my favorite film franchise. Instead, I try to be less critical and find the silver lining in whatever they put out... So, I’m hoping to enjoy watching Nemesis, even if I am holding out hope that it's actually decent! Can't wait... 🙂

Just walked out of the theater... honestly, it was bad. Really bad. If you're actually interested in seeing it, do yourself a favor and just wait until it hits streaming or video rental. 👎

After finishing The Matrix Reloaded, I couldn't just walk away without checking out Nemesis—so I just watched it, and here we go.

I expected very little, but I ended up getting much more.
The movie leans heavily on Khan's fury, which works fine for me.
It’s packed with action (nearly an hour's worth), features more than one instance of James Bond-style nonsense, includes Admiral Janeway 🙂 (who actually holds the rank before Picard does), touches on some interesting mysticism regarding those Romulans and Remans, and delivers one very solid narrative thread:
The series featuring Kirk concluded with the reconciliation between the Federation and the Klingons.
This film hints at a peace between the Federation and the Romulans, effectively bringing the "circle" to a close.
There are no more of Kirk's enemies left 😢, oh well.

As I stated, this film was far better than I anticipated (and by a significant margin, considering I'd mostly heard nothing but trash talk about it). It certainly made an impact on me initially; I'll have to see how I truly feel about its quality after a second viewing.

My only grievances involve some temporary logical inconsistencies—even more egregious than what is typical for Star Trek—but regardless, for now, I would give it a 👍

IMDb

felt more like a stretched-out episode of Star Trek to me...
i was expecting way more... heh...

I caught it a few months back... honestly, it felt pretty pathetic and dull 👎

Is there some specific reason for this, or do you simply have an aversion to sci-fi films (perhaps you clicked on this thinking you were watching some Swedish educational documentary and ended up here by mistake)?

I love sci-fi 🙂
just finished watching a movie
since I'm home all the time bingeing Star Trek, I guess I've become
expected a bit more than just some "polished, stretched-out sequel." honestly, my main gripe
is that it feels like a TV episode—everything is just the same old stuff, just padded out to two hours. man...

Look, the core premise was clearly lifted from some episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation (though let's be honest, most of these films recycle the same tropes), but beyond that, I was actually expecting something along the lines of Star Trek: Insurrection—if not something even better...

Regardless of how derivative the theme might be, I find myself liking it.
It feels like a blend of The Wrath of Khan and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.🙂.
You have Picard's Nemesis (the man himself), Kirk's Nemesis (Khan, with his superior intellect), and an ending that hits all the right notes, topped off by an excellent space battle.🙂
It’s almost absurd that it took them ten whole installments—spanning Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Star Trek: Voyager, and the USS Enterprise—to finally realize that starships can actually collide with one another.😁
And don't even get me started on the tactical utility of evasive maneuvers, or the impossibility of fighting Romulans when you're facing Remans (just trading torpedoes back and forth like that)🙂 and other brilliant tactical nuances.
I am genuinely impressed.🙂

edit:
Oh, and they actually incorporate evasive maneuvers Kirk epsilon👍.

I finally sat down to watch it today, and thank goodness the opinions on this forum don't dictate my movie choices.😁

I went in expecting a Star Trek movie, and that is exactly what I got. I have no complaints about that.

Naturally, I was able to laugh off that ridiculous "evasive maneuver" Kirk epsilon.