F1 Montreal GP: June 7-9, 2019

I have to disagree with you there.

So, here’s a quick recap of what’s been going on over the last few pages:

• Pascal Wehrlein is somehow a hundred times better than Max Verstappen.
• If Red Bull had JEV instead of Pierre Gasly this year, they’d probably be sitting comfortably in second place.
• It might take Red Bull another two seasons before they see any decent results—maybe even fighting for third in the standings.
• Valtteri Bottas is supposedly way behind Nico Hülkenberg and Sergio Pérez—with Romain Grosjean and Maldonado Bottas actually looking better.
• Bottas was just incredibly lucky to have Kimi Räikkönen as a teammate, given how much he helps develop the car.
• Kimi Räikkönen and Felipe Massa apparently drive with maybe ten percent effort—it's like they're being forced to be there.
• Kimi Räikkönen didn't stand a chance against Sebastian Vettel.

I think that covers everything. Today feels complete. Now, I can finally get to dinner. 🕺

If I were to give a quick rundown of how things look right now:

1. Max Verstappen is going to take the championship this year... just expect him to be doing it with Williams Racing.

2. Honestly, Pierre Gasly has already pulled in 350% of the points he got from Red Bull; he’s basically won it all, so we might as well skip the rest
of the season. xD

3. It looks like Red Bull is still going to need a few more years to reclaim that top spot.... much like their situation with McLaren and Honda, they were staring down the barrel of a disaster, but they managed to pull through. I didn't mention anything about 3rd place regarding that, by the way. xD

4. Valtteri Bottas is the champion this season, so there's really no point in watching the rest of the races. xD

5. Kimi Räikkönen still shows he's got a really solid knack for developing a car.

6. Let's be real, Kimi Räikkönen probably cares more about his vodka than the actual driving. XD

7. Nope, because that was actually a specific clause requested by his guarantor in the contract. xD

Just wanted to add a few more thoughts to the mix.

1. If you're looking for a safe bet, put everything you own on Williams and Max Verstappen winning it all this year. Seriously, bet your house and your retirement fund on this one. xD

2. Pierre Gasly has absolutely crushed it, pulling in about 350% of the points he should be getting for Red Bull Racing. His performance this season is honestly legendary—he’s putting 2007-era Lewis Hamilton to shame.

3. At Red Bull Racing, they don't need three months to dial in the car; three minutes does the trick. They spend the other three months lounging on the beach sipping radlers. While everyone else is grinding through pre-season testing, those guys are basically just partying their way through Barcelona. xD

4. I'm calling it now: Valtteri Bottas is going to replicate Mercedes' dominance, but twice over. He’s going to be the champion for the next ten seasons straight... people, I am telling you, bet your houses and your pensions on this. It's a 250% certainty. XD

stormyviper2 said:xD 2. Gasly has undoubtedly secured (1)350% of the points for Red Bull Racing; his seasonal performance is of such a caliber that even Lewis Hamilton in 2007 should feel a sense of shame.

3. At Red Bull Racing, they don't require three months of grueling labor to refine their car; three minutes would suffice. They spend the remaining three months lounging on beaches and sipping radlers. xD While pre-season testing is underway, they are simply out partying in Barcelona. xD

Helmut Marko has finally explained why things stand as they do, and why Red Bull Racing finds itself in this predicament;

"We all had the opportunity to react, but the car concepts were already finalized for lower downforce levels. Only Mercedes chose to move in the opposite direction. They engineered a car with extremely high contact pressure and traction. Looking back retrospectively—we can now see that was the superior way to handle these new tires."

He was also being somewhat comical;

"In any case—trust isn't built by seeing Liberty's official Mercedes with plates from Stuttgart parked in the Monaco paddock, riding on Pirelli tires." 🍿

https://www.f1puls.com/40172/helmut-...itne-promjene/

I honestly don't buy the idea that their struggles come down solely to the rake of the Red Bull Racing chassis or the wheelbase and track width...

To me, it feels more like the car is still about 35% Honda power and 65% Renault power. 😉 I suspect it’s going to take them at least another full year to truly find their footing. By the middle of next season, they might actually start looking dangerous... For this team, this whole year is essentially just one massive testing phase—a difficult transition from one engine architecture to a completely different one. You can't just expect them to iron out those kinds of fundamental integration issues in the three months between seasons. Even McLaren showed us that it isn't that simple. xD For Red Bull Racing, this entire season is basically acting like a preseason test in Barcelona.

stormyviper2 said:...

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There’s really no need to go around overthinking your own posts—I guess. 🤷 I’m still wondering when exactly Kimi Räikkönen and Valtteri Bottas were teammates—if they even were—because I suspect Kimi's technical feedback might have actually helped Bottas's development. But I suppose I won't be getting an answer here. 🤷

Brian Campbell36 said:The bio is a bit on the comedic side—I guess.

At any rate—you don't exactly build trust by seeing Liberty's official Mercedes rolling through the Monaco paddock with plates from Stuttgart and Pirelli tires on them. 🍿

Maybe they should just stick to driving a Dacia Duster on Tiger Tyres—it might be more reliable, I guess.

stormyviper2 said:I guess this is really just a test season for them—a transition from one engine to something completely different. I find it hard to believe they can fully adapt in just three months between the end of one season and the start of the next.

2018—that felt like a true testing season, I guess.

stormyviper2 said:I guess McLaren just proved they aren't quite there yet—xD. For them, this whole thing feels more like pre-season testing in Barcelona than anything else; maybe that’s basically their entire season.

I guess when you go from fighting Williams Racing just to stay off the bottom of the grid in 2018 to having a genuinely solid fourth-best car by 2019—well, maybe that's proof of how things can actually work. 👍

crimsonhawk23 said:They ought to be driving a Dacia Duster on Tiger Tyres.

Personally, I would find myself leaning more toward Tiger Tyres.

Brian Campbell36 said:I think I'd lean more toward Tiger Tyres.

An Opel tiger over Tiger Tyres. If you say so.

We’re looking at the most elite motorsport competition on the planet here. You’ve got the top ten teams and a massive concentration of the world's best engineers all fighting for inches. To me, it feels a little too utopian that Mercedes is the only one sitting on the complete package—everything from the engine concept and aero profiles to wheelbase, cooling, fuel, and tires. It seems almost impossible that none of the other nine teams can replicate that or even get close to it. When you consider how many moving parts and variables are involved, it starts to feel less like a fair fight and more like the house is just rigging the odds to make sure the betting parlors win big.

Raymond Anderson4 said:https://www.racefans.net/2019/06/10/...ttels-penalty/

🤣

It honestly doesn't matter if he was pushing his absolute limit regardless of knowing the situation, but failing to tell the driver right behind him who's actively hunting them down? That’s a total slap in the face. 😁

The most ridiculous excuse ever—claiming they just didn't catch up in time.
Just watch which crew gets that kind of explanation from their own leader, Binotto.
😱

stormyviper2 said:We’re looking at the most elite tier of motorsport on the planet—ten top-tier teams and a massive collection of world-class engineers. It feels a bit utopian to think that Mercedes is the only one who managed to nail every single variable—engine concept, aero profile, wheelbase, cooling, fuel, tires... you name it—and that none of the other nine teams can even come close to replicating it. There are just far too many variables at play here—I guess. It sounds to me like someone is just trying way too hard to make a quick buck off the sportsbook—I guess.

You have exactly three variables:

1. I suppose nobody comes close to Mercedes' budget—not even Ferrari.
2. It seems like almost all the top experts and support staff have migrated over to Mercedes—I guess that’s just how it goes.
3. Mercedes is a perfectly tuned machine in terms of organization—though reaching that level requires hitting both of those top requirements, I suppose.

Despite all that, they still have the best driver on the grid—someone with the experience and the mental grit to stay cool under pressure. He just keeps delivering near-perfect laps and making the right calls, even when Max Verstappen—arguably the second-best driver out there—is breathing down his neck the entire race at Monaco.

Let me just step in here and shut down this whole theory. I’m going back to that incident between Sebastian Vettel and Luja.🎉

It is blindingly obvious that Seb pulled that exit on purpose. As the race was winding down, he realized there was no way he was keeping Hamilton behind him. The only logical move was to stage an incident. He picked the perfect spot on the track for that little performance, masterfully overshooting the corner and "sliding" onto the grass. Then, while heading back, he steers right toward Luja—you could tell because he was glued to that right rearview mirror. It was a move only a genius could pull off.🤣

Everything was planned and executed perfectly. Luja plays every card except for crashing on track and losing his points, and Sebastian Vettel delivered exactly what was needed. With that single move, Luja effectively killed any motivation for anyone else to keep chasing that first-place spot.☕

Unfortunately, his master plan was ruined by biased officials who messed up his epic performance with some made-up penalty.😵Even though it felt like everyone was ganging up on Sebastian Vettel, he took the hit with total composure, acting like a true gentleman. He pulled the car over—maybe not strictly according to the rulebook—but it was vital that he got back to the Ferrari camp immediately to calm everyone down and convince them to take it like men. Once he was sure his words had settled the heads of the red crew, he headed to the podium, taking the opportunity to be polite and greet the entire Mercedes team.

What a class act.🙏

Since it was quite a walk from the Mercedes garage, he remembered that things weren't quite right with those number boards. Back when he was a kid, he showed such a massive knack for math that his parents took him to a specialized aptitude test. It was a total success; he finished the exam faster than anyone ever had, making only one single mistake—can you imagine? Just one error out of 350 problems.🍿 But fate dictated that he would eventually sit behind the wheel of go-karts, and then much bigger machines.

Oops, looks like I went on a bit of a tangent there.🕺

To get back to those number boards: I know you all think Seb messed up the sequence, but he didn't. He simply sees the world through a different lens, one that us ordinary people just can't grasp.
What I'm trying to tell you is, don't trust your own eyes. Trust me.🙂

Nicholas Newman2 I can't even begin to process this. It's like looking at a blank wall. There's nothing here. Just empty space. Give me something actual to work with next time.
Let me just step in here and completely dismantle this whole argument. I’m going back to that incident between Sebastian Vettel and Luja.🎉

You complain about the chains, then you go and suffocate us with them.

Nicholas Newman2 said:It’s pretty obvious that Sebastian Vettel went off track on purpose.

Is it even worth asking? How many people actually think like this? Are we talking a handful of people, or is it an entire crowd?

Sometimes it’s a genuine driving error, other times it looks pretty damn intentional. 🤔 Can we please just get to the point? It’s time to decide what we're actually dealing with here.

neonfox65 said:Man, you are just plain stupid. If they had slapped him with a penalty after the race, that would actually be the precedent, because then everyone would be asking why he wasn't penalized immediately to prevent him from building up that 5+ second gap during the race. Thank God I left this thread so I don't have to read your nonsense every single day.

I couldn't care less about penalties or precedents...
Those geniuses basically punished the fans by killing the racing and the actual competition with that call. Even if Sebastian Vettel got a penalty, who cares if it happened after the race? Who gives a damn? If anyone actually cared, would Sebastian Vettel have 7 points more or less today? It doesn't matter in a season where it's painfully obvious that Hamilton is just going to stroll to the title, especially since his only real competition is Valtteri Bottas, who isn't even in the same league....

The point is, the stewards killed the racing. They killed what should have been a historic duel that people would remember for generations. Everything was set up for one of those legendary, furious battles until the very end...
And those geniuses killed that too, all because of some stupid rule meant for "political correctness" or whatever nonsense they're all hiding behind. 🤦

P. S. Give my regards to your parents from TBF and tell them they didn't exactly nail their job...

crimsonhawk23 said:Let's see what we've got here...

• Perez's career stats: 165 starts, 8 podiums (4.8%). Real impressive stuff.
• Nico Hulkenberg’s entire career: 165 starts, 0 podiums (0%).
• Bottas moving to Mercedes: 78 starts, 8 podiums (all with Williams) (10.2%)

• Sergio Perez finally hit his career peak: 7th place (2016, 2017).
• Nico Hulkenberg finally hit his career peak: 7th (2018).
• Valtteri Bottas finally hit his career peak before moving to Mercedes: 4th place back in 2013.

Just being objective here. 👍

What on earth is supposed to be objective about that???
Back in 2014, that Williams car was a beast. It had genuine pole position and race win potential written all over it. Honestly? They should have cruised into second place in the championship with a massive gap. No contest.

Honestly, that car was basically what Ferrari has been running this season compared to Mercedes. And let’s be real, Valtteri Bottas did absolutely nothing with it. Zero impact.

They ended the season in total shambles, all thanks to Bottas being useless and Mass being way too old, checked out, and completely fed up. And they had to settle for second place without even having a fighting chance.

Look, let’s be real: most of those podiums for Bottas only happened because back in 2014, the Mercedes engine was an absolute monster while everyone else was completely out of their league.

Someone should probably tell Mercedes they’re a bit lost—they passed up on having Nico Hulkenberg ready to go back in 2016, opting for a much weaker driver instead.

Nicholas Newman2 said:Let's go. TBF-style I'm going to dismantle this whole story of yours.

Look, if you still have doubts about what I wrote—especially after everything I've laid out in **bold and underlined**—then I honestly don't know what else to say to you.

Roger Wright94 said:You complain about the chain, then go and choke us with it.

Who exactly is this clear to? How many people are we talking about here? Is it just a handful, or are there more than ten?

Sometimes it’s just a driver error, and other times it looks completely intentional. 🤔 Can we finally get some clarity on what's actually going on here?

I see you've gone back through my old posts, but it looks like you still don't get what I meant by that bolded and underlined part.
It’s almost tragicomic how you could ask those exact same questions after every single TBF post.

crimsonhawk23 said:Tell Mercedes they have no clue what they're doing. They passed up a much better driver when Hulkenberg was sitting right there on a silver platter back in 2016.

Who says they don't know what they're doing?
They could have easily picked up Palmer too and still swept every single championship...

They didn't grab Bottas because he's some kind of miracle worker. They grabbed him because:
A.) He's obedient.
B.) He's decent enough to keep that dominant beast in the top 3 or 4 every race, maybe even snagging a win now and then...

And honestly, that’s plenty for them. Who else do they need? 🤷
Why would they want a driver who's going to get under Hamilton's skin and give them another 2016 situation where they might actually lose ground to someone else, like McLaren and Hamilton did? 😉

Nicholas Newman2 said:Look, man, if you still don't get what I meant by the bolded and underlined part, I’m honestly at a loss for words.

I can see you've been scrolling through my old posts, and yet, somehow, you're still missing the point of the emphasis.

Of course you don't get it. If you did, you would've figured it out ages ago...
You've been hanging around here for a while now. 😁

Just watch how my little Padawan finally learned his lesson...
https://www.f1puls.com/40154/ma-dajte-molim-vas/
Geldaj, enjoy the ride and try to learn something. 😁