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Bahrain GP (Indianapolis Motor Speedway) March 29-31, 2019

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darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#81 ·
Richard Walker38 said:If you're looking for a driver who just rolls over and plays nice, then yeah, forget about them winning a title, because you can't win if you're busy being submissive.

Just look at when Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso were both tearing it up at McLaren; Lewis knew exactly what he was capable of and didn't give an ounce of respect to anyone's seniority—from the very first second, he sat right on Fernando's heels, just this kid going head-to-head against a two-time world champion, and he absolutely refused to play second fiddle.

The only catch is that Hamilton was actually driving for McLaren back then.

It’s blindingly obvious that McLaren completely botched the whole situation, plain and simple.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#82 ·
Richard Walker38 said:Your hate for Max Verstappen is getting so ridiculous that you’re basically going to start treating Pierre Gasly like a hero after every single race. 🤣

Not even close. Honestly, you're so blinded by your own hate that you can't see what's right in front of your face.

Pierre Gasly had exactly one race last year where he absolutely crushed it, and that was the damn Bahrain Grand Prix.🙂
Fucking hell, he’s sitting in 6th in that Red Bull Racing during qualifying, right on Ricciardo's tail, and somehow managed to stay 9 spots ahead of Max Verstappen. 🙂
He finished P4 in that damn Red Bull Racing car, on the absolute best F1 track from last season...
That was honestly the peak. It was easily Honda's best showing since they returned to Formula 1, and nothing has even come close to it until Max Verstappen landing on that podium in Australia.

Honestly, if you’re out here rambling about how he doesn't stand a chance at the Bahrain Grand Prix, you've got to be one of the bigger idiots out there.
It's the same kid who tried to write off Max in Mexico, where Max Verstappen always delivers. ☕

Will Pierre Gasly pull it off again? Who knows. But writing him off before qualifying even starts is just plain crazy.☕
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#83 ·
cosmiccyclist8 said:I heard Hakkinen's in on this too... and he probably knows better than anyone how much of a disaster it was seeing Charles Leclerc stall out during the very first race. Look, I get that Leclerc is their number one guy now, but it’s honestly ridiculous to see him acting like a total amateur after just one race.

What if Leclerc actually steps it up at the Bahrain Grand Prix?

What was Charles Leclerc even better at in Australia?
Qualifying was a disaster, and honestly? The race is looking even worse.
Did he just pull a fast one on Bottas or Hamilton?
Did he even stand a chance at beating Max?

The only thing he actually did better was the second half of the race. In that second stint, his car was clearly way slower than it should have been.
So, what was it actually? Was it just bad tires, a complete disaster of a setup on the mediums, or did they pit way too early? Maybe it was following Lewis Hamilton around and absolutely shredding their rubber because of it. Or was it cooling issues? Engine power? Who knows.
Or maybe if they just focused on saving the engine and tires, they’d actually finish the race without all the drama. Honestly, God help us.

Let’s be real—Charles Leclerc isn't even in the same zip code as Sebastian Vettel unless Vettel's car hits major issues. Even then, it takes him forever just to catch up. He completely fell apart during the first half of the race and was left trailing miles behind Vettel.
He only caught up to that sluggish car about 7 or 8 laps before the end. Calling that "significantly faster" is a massive stretch.

Honestly, this could easily just be standard operating procedure for these teams.
So, you're saying fighting is fine right up until that final pit stop, but even a lunatic wouldn't risk a mid-race brawl just a few laps from the finish. It makes zero sense to go door-to-door when there’s no chance of moving up the order or grabbing extra points for the constructors—unless, of course, you're actually worried about losing what you already have by driving like a snail to the checkered flag.
Then they just switch to some kind of turtle mode. They nurse the engines and gearboxes, basically just limping to the finish line to get it over with. Nothing special, nothing unusual.
Kind of like what we saw back in Malaysia in 2013, with everyone sitting right there in the points...
The only real difference is that Vettel didn't give a single damn about those team orders.

If little Max had shown that same hunger for victory that Vettel did during that infamous Multi21 moment in Malaysia, maybe we’d be talking about something different. But honestly? It wouldn't have been smart for him.
At the end of the day, Vettel definitely took a beating for that, even with three world titles under his belt at the time. Meanwhile, Leclerc is just getting his first real shot in a serious car...
Is it really that smart to bite the hand that feeds you? Not exactly. ☕

Richard Walker38 said:Charles Leclerc has serious driving talent, but let’s be real—his brain is basically made of marshmallows. He just can't pull the trigger. A real predator would've sniffed out that opening and bitten hard from the jump. Honestly, screw all these diplomats, "tacticians," and other half-wits. Formula 1 needs a damn dose of pure aggression.

The only thing the kid actually proved is that he isn't some impatient idiot. He’s clearly not just some immature brat who can't control himself. What he showed is that he’s got a serious head on his shoulders and he is genuinely dangerous.
If he’d gone for the move on Sebastian Vettel, it would’ve been a win for Vettel. It would’ve proven the kid can't keep his cool or think strategically under pressure. Plus, all he’d gain from an aggressive dive was a massive lecture from the team later on...
All this just shows the kid stays calm, calculates his moves, and is actually pretty dangerous.
He barely did anything all weekend, but he managed to wrap it up in a way that makes him look incredibly fast—like he didn't finish ahead of Sebastian Vettel just because the team held him back. 🙂
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#84 ·
Every single morning—just one sheet of paper and ugh...
Amy Castillo4 Amy Castillo4 Active Member
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#85 ·
It’d be nice if you actually stepped up and helped out here too, Joe. You see how much effort people are putting in—it’s exhausting.—
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#86 ·
You’re really twisting things to suit your narrative, aren't you? You think the kid is some kind of genius, but let's be real—everyone knows he's just playing the part of the obedient little helper. It's all a desperate attempt by Ferrari to keep pulling the wool over Sebastian Vettel's eyes for a few more laps.

Look, let’s run a hypothetical: if a rookie Lewis Hamilton were sitting in Charles Leclerc's seat right now, he would have swallowed those team orders whole and blown past Sebastian on the track. I am 100% sure of it. That would have been the beginning of the end for Sebastian's status as a top-tier driver. This is how it goes—people get dragged along by team orders and special treatment for a while, and eventually, a kid like Charles Leclerc will go from being the "good soldier" to a frustrated nutcase, much like Valtteri Bottas at Mercedes. Then we'll all be stuck listening to his cryptic radio messages too.
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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#87 ·
It is a relief that Derek Warwick isn't being mentioned as some successor to Charles Leclerc. 🎉

It seems we are finally seeing a decline in the number of Britons occupying top positions within the FIA.

Ahead of the Bahrain Grand Prix, the FIA has appointed individuals to step in for Charles Leclerc; while Mass will retain his roles as race director and the FIA safety delegate, Christian Horner is set to serve as the starter for the race.

During this event, I expect Lewis Hamilton to secure 26 points, Max Verstappen will demonstrate the sheer strength of the Red Bull Racing and Honda partnership, and Valtteri Bottas will undoubtedly revert to his former self by climbing onto the podium once again.

Ferrari is a complete farce; on their home circuit, they are bound to stumble yet again, which will ultimately expose the fact that they have engineered a catastrophic car for the 2019 season.

With Sebastian Vettel departing Ferrari after this season, this year will serve as proof that he is a fraudulent driver; if he truly possessed any merit, Toto Wolff would have already snapped him up for Mercedes-Benz.

Only when Charles Leclerc is established as the undisputed number one driver at Ferrari can the team realistically hope to contend for WDC titles in both categories.
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#88 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:Vettel is leaving Ferrari after this season


Aug 26, 2017
Maranello (Italy) – Ferrari Maranello has extended its technical and racing agreement with driver Sebastian Vettel for the 2018, 2019 and 2020 racing seasons of the Formula 1 Championship.


https://formula1.ferrari.com/en/exte...astian-vettel/
swifttiger75 swifttiger75 Active Member
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#89 ·
darkmarlin16 said:It’s just that Hamilton used to drive for McLaren.

McLaren totally misplayed their hand here—it's pretty obvious.

Exactly! 👍
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
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#90 ·
Richard Walker38 said:You really played both sides of the fence there. You claim the kid is smart, but we all know he’s just playing the role Ferrari needs right now—acting as a loyal soldier in a desperate attempt to keep fooling a washed-up driver like Sebastian Vettel.

Think about a hypothetical scenario where a rookie Lewis Hamilton was in Charles Leclerc's shoes instead. He would have followed team orders to the letter and overtaken Sebastian Vettel on track; I am 100% certain of that. It would have signaled the beginning of the end for Vettel's status as a top-tier driver. We’re going to see more drivers riding on the coattails of team orders and favoritism for a while. Eventually, little Charles will evolve from this obedient subordinate into a frustrated nutcase, much like Valtteri Bottas at Mercedes, and then we'll be stuck listening to his cryptic radio messages too.

The Charles Leclerc we saw in Australia is exactly the kind of driver Ferrari wants. Honestly, him trailing behind Sebastian doesn't matter when you look at the big picture.
Once Sebastian moves on, Charles will be the one left standing. This whole thing is just training for the operating procedure they used back during the Michael Schumacher era: having a clear number one driver and a dedicated wingman.
Charles has already seen exactly what awaits a number two driver once he takes full control of the Ferrari seat.
The version of Sebastian Vettel we saw in Australia is essentially what Charles Leclerc will become in a few years. 🙂
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#91 ·
You all are being quite exhausting regarding Charles Leclerc and Sebastian Vettel. What happened during the Australian Grand Prix was a perfectly standard occurrence, and it certainly wasn't because Charles lacked any sort of grit. It was simply a matter of avoiding an inconsequential scrap that could have jeopardized a significant number of points.

Time will eventually reveal how Charles handles his rivalry with Sebastian Vettel and the rest of the field.

The guy made a sensible decision in Australia, regardless of the endless chatter coming from a few people on this forum.
crimsonhawk23 crimsonhawk23 Member
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#92 ·
It didn't take long for people to start bashing Charles 🤕 The guy has never really shown that aggressive, pushy streak you see in so many other drivers. He fights hard and stays uncompromising—even when it means going against team orders. It’s what most drivers would do in his shoes, especially guys like Fernando Alonso or Lewis Hamilton over the last few years—not to mention Michael Schumacher, who probably sits at the very top of the sport's history. By any chance, those three are arguably the best drivers since Alain Prost (who, I suppose, had a similar temperament)

Keep in mind that throughout all of last season, Charles was consistently moving out of the way for both Ferrari cars without a hint of resistance. He does it for others too, though perhaps not as visibly as he does for Ferrari. You have someone like Sebastian Vettel, who dives into other cars and spins out, dropping down the order, only to face mediocre resistance from the mid-field while trying to fight back into the top 6—even though they know it's futile since their cars are in a lower tier. But Charles doesn't just move aside; he actually slows down to ensure Sebastian has fewer issues. If he was doing that before he even joined Ferrari… 🤷

Does this mean the project is ruined and his career is over, as much as people are flattering him? No. The kid is top-tier talent. Honestly, I wouldn't want to be in Sebastian's shoes after seeing what Charles did in Australia—knowing your own team has to bail you out from a teammate who is significantly faster than you. I don't know, it's a messy situation. Ferrari handled it poorly, that's for sure, just as it's certain that Charles is WDC material. Something that, say, Sergio Perez wouldn't be, even if he spent the rest of the season driving the Mercedes number 44.

So now, because Charles isn't being pushy, it's a flaw, yet people complain when he goes up against Max Verstappen because he's the polar opposite of Charles Leclerc 🤨 People just aren't happy no matter how you look at it... 🤷 "Always negative!" 🐔

😐
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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#93 ·
I'm not exactly a huge fan of Sebastian Vettel, but from what I saw, it looked like Ferrari was dealing with some genuine technical hiccups during the Australian Grand Prix. That seems to be the main reason why Charles Leclerc was able to close the gap on him so quickly.
And honestly, we've only seen one race so far. Let's hold off on passing judgment until we at least get to Barcelona... 🙂
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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#94 ·
Interesting... FP1 has wrapped up, yet I haven't seen any commentary anywhere... 🙂
Elizabeth Mendoza Elizabeth Mendoza Regular
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#95 ·
Some people here must be working because they clearly weren't watching..
Thomas Martin4 Thomas Martin4 Member
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#96 ·
Richard Ross11 said:It’s interesting—FP1 wrapped up, yet there isn't a single word of commentary out there... 🙂

My odds are slipping away... I suppose I was just too lazy to place the bet.
Linda Peterson43 Linda Peterson43 Active Member
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#97 ·
Richard Walker38 said:Some people here are actually working, so they obviously missed the race...


I’m working too, but I’m watching the feed while I do it...
To be fair, my job doesn't involve manual labor...🙂
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#98 ·
Someone please drop a link to a working live stream.
James Roberts87 James Roberts87 Active Member
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#99 ·
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Casey Hill57 Casey Hill57 Member
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#100 ·
I don't know, man, that 0.6s gap just feels totally unreal to me

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