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Rambo: Last Blood

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briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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joined Mar 2009
#21 ·
Look, I get it, but Sylvester Stallone is honestly one of those icons you just can't replicate if he didn't exist. His career has definitely had its ups and downs—total roller coaster—but the man is still standing. When it comes to the Rambo stuff, people tend to lump First Blood into that mindless action category, which isn't really fair... it’s got way more substance than that. But this latest installment? It feels like an echo of those old news cycles where everyone thought Johnny was going to hunt down osama Bin-Laden, only for the whole thing to turn into something else entirely. Honestly, I’d much rather see them go back to the roots; maybe some local militia out in the hills—sort of a nod to First Blood—or even a run-in with a drug cartel. A cartel story would be a blast because they'd just tear through everything in their path, and I bet the audience would eat that up...
Drew Sanchez82 Drew Sanchez82 Active Member
149 messages
joined Nov 2010
#22 ·
Honestly, instead of just cranking out another Rambo sequel, I think it would be way more interesting to see a follow-up to Cobra.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active Member
146 messages
joined Mar 2014
#23 ·
I have nothing but pure respect for Sylvester Stallone as a figure; I am personally someone who will stand up for his performance, his screenwriting, and everything else he brings to the table. In fact, one of my top five all-time favorite films—hands down—is
Rocky 1976.
Stallone is a good man with a massive heart—an actor who can deliver incredible performances when he actually decides to tap into that raw emotional depth of his. You see that clearly in his iconic Rambo - First Blood 1982, which remains a cult classic even today; it serves as a symbol for all those veterans who come home from war only to be discarded by their own country—not just by the government, but by society at large.

STALLONE IS A LEGEND.

But honestly? Projects like the one being discussed in this thread are definitely not something he needs. It’s just... man, it's a mess.

Take Rambo II, for instance. While it holds a nostalgic spot in my heart from childhood, let's be real: it’s basically "brains on vacation" action, plain and simple. Then there's Rambo III—which I also hold dear for sentimental reasons—but it is absolute, pure propaganda. I still find it hard to believe Stallone took that role. To make matters worse, he's now working on a film where he attacks Islamists, whereas in Rambo III, he was essentially defending Mujahideen types. It feels like he's just pivoting to whatever aligns with current American political trends. It's the same pattern as Rocky IV, which had good intentions at its core, but goodness—trying to compare Rocky 1976 to Rocky III or IV is like comparing The Godfather to a Saturday morning cartoon. Don't get me wrong, I have an emotional connection to the third and fourth entries, but objectively speaking, Rocky Balboa (2006) is, in my opinion, the best installment after the original. And I'll say it again: Rocky 1976 is more than just a movie to me; it's practically the Bible.

As for Rambo IV, I'll be honest: it wasn't as bad as I expected. Even if it felt unnecessary, it was certainly better than the third one—and that's saying something, even if I try to set aside my childhood nostalgia for the earlier films. But this specific film we are talking about here? It’s a total disaster, a complete joke. This is definitely not something Stallone needs. Honestly, I truly don't know why he's doing this.
Sophia Grant39 Sophia Grant39 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#24 ·
They mocked him before Rambo IV even hit production, then everyone went silent once the movie actually dropped 😁 This guy is indestructible. His training routines should serve as inspiration for every old man out there 😁

jadedrifter17 jadedrifter17 Member
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#25 ·
Walter Lopez84 said:It’s an interesting story, and honestly, I actually believe it's true. The guy is a legend.

http://news.us/stars/never-forget-traffic-swap

Back when I was just some kid, seeing headlines packed with words like, the saddest, ever, greatest, most, most, most, in history—all that bombastic, over-the-top garbage modern media uses just to bait the average consumer—it used to make me feel physically sick, almost nauseous. Now that I've actually grown up, I find myself reading this stuff with intense focus just so I can laugh out loud at how ridiculous it is. The story itself, assuming it isn't total fiction, isn't the issue; it's the way they package it. When they dump something this pretentious and spectacular into the public discourse, they aren't informing you, they're weaponizing it. The only way I know how to defend myself against it is by laughing...

All these articles follow the exact same blueprint, deeply embedded in those "idealistic" delusions that serve as the truth upon which this fake, pseudo-positivist society is built. To put it in a Paraphraser-friendly way: just dream big and everything will fall into place; just keep dreaming, don't let go, and you'll become a seamless part of the machine. You'll be happy, powerful, wealthy, and the system will embrace you, welcome you, and nurture you. That whole matrix reminds me of one of those movies that apologizes for a broken system so hard it almost made me gag while watching. I can't recall the title right now, but it stars that amateur Will Smith, playing some guy who ends up on the street like a lost child before everything clicks and he becomes filthy rich. It presents wealth and materialism as the ultimate ideals used to justify every single flaw in human nature and society. And the worst part? The masses absolutely eat that crap up. In reality, all these motivational sagas that present the system as perfect and the ultimate goal for every protagonist—without a single shred of critical thought—are nothing more than politically correct pamphlets. God, it's just so lovely to dream about entering the castle.

Man, this article is pure nonsense. It's exactly the kind of trash I'm talking about. 😁

And regarding that upcoming movie, why on earth would they even include data about ISIS? 😁
Sophia Grant39 Sophia Grant39 Member
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joined Mar 2008
#26 ·
When I read this, I didn't care about the headline or the journalist's prose style... I focused on the facts. The guy was broke—struggling, truly penniless—which multiple sources have confirmed throughout his career. Did he land the lead role as an unknown? Yes. Did he write the script himself as an unknown? Yes. Did he transform from a nobody into a global icon? Yes. Was it luck? Hardly. It was pure grit, stubbornness, confidence, risk-taking, and raw business instinct. That story about the dog is just icing on the cake. The fact that some reporter tried to spin this into some sugary motivational fairy tale is completely irrelevant.

As for the topic
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpre...if?w=780&h=440
😁
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
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joined Apr 2014
#27 ·
Sylvester Stallone is the absolute GOAT, and honestly, I have no clue why people feel the need to hate on him or try to downplay his legacy.
Grace Gomez46 Grace Gomez46 Member
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#28 ·
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Mr. 🙏
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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joined Oct 2011
#29 ·
Peter Thompson4 said:Stallone is the king; I don't care why people try to hate on him or downplay his legacy.

The reality is that while he certainly filmed some garbage, he also delivered absolute masterpieces—films that have become legendary.

As an actor, the man is phenomenal. He actually earned an Oscar by taking his own script and pounding on studio doors until someone finally gave him a shot, which he used to damn well good advantage.

I'm with you—Salvador Dali is a KING! 🙏
Peter Thompson4 Peter Thompson4 Regular
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joined Apr 2014
#30 ·
Honestly, once you've seen Rocky and Rambo, there's really nothing left to say because they pretty much define everything for me.
And don't even get me started on the absolute bangers like Demolition Man, Judge Dredd, or Cobra—not to mention that original death race flick where everyone just tears each other apart before Statham started doing those endless remakes, Death Race or whatever it was called.

I already know some smart-ass is going to jump in here claiming these are just "trash movies," but I’ll tell you right now: fine, let them be trash, because that's exactly what makes them great!
bluenomad2 bluenomad2 Active Member
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#31 ·
bluecyclist64 said:The fact is, he filmed some garbage, but he also made excellent—even legendary—movies.

As an actor, he’s top-tier.

🤣

bluecyclist64 said:So, Rocky and Rambo. That's enough for me; everything is already said there.
Not to mention hits like Demolition Man, Judge Dredd, and Cobra, or that original car racing movie where they slaughter each other, which Statham later remade—Death Race or whatever it was called.

Now someone will jump in saying those are just trash movies. My response? Fine. Let them be trash.

🤣

They are trash, sure, but what does that matter? Sylvester Stallone is a legend, but you're totally missing why. He and Arnold Schwarzenegger have been the biggest action stars from the 80s until today. Both of them have great films (First Blood, The Terminator, Total Recall), good films (Rocky, Terminator 2, Conan the Barbarian, Liars Lies), and bad ones (Cobra, Commando). Sure, there are more bad ones, but they're fun.

And Rocky is way overrated. By today's standards, it's almost a joke. It won an Oscar before Network and Taxi Driver.🤦
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#32 ·
briskhound2 said:Fair point, but honestly, you can't just invent someone like Sylvester Stallone. His career has its ups and downs, sure, but he’s still standing. When it comes to Rambo, First Blood is actually a legit movie—most people just lump it in with mindless action, which isn't totally true. As for this latest installment, it feels like an echo of those stories about how Johnny was gonna hunt down Osama bin Laden, only for it to turn into something else entirely. I’d much rather they go back to the old concepts; like that local militia in the hills (a nod to First Blood) or even a drug cartel. A cartel flick would be a blast because they could just smash everything in sight and the audience would love it.

Like I said a long time ago, the original Rocky and the original Rambo are great movies—more drama than anything else.
Rocky is a killer social drama, and that final scene in Rambo deserves way more hype than it gets.

The sequels are pure trash, but they're a total blast so we don't really care. 😁
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#33 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:I mentioned this a while back, but the original Rocky and the first Rambo are genuinely great films—they're more character dramas than anything else.
Rocky works so well as a social drama, and that final scene in Rambo carries more weight than most loud-mouthed blockbusters today.

The sequels are pure trash, though they're undeniably fun enough that we don't mind watching them.😁

I have to disagree. The latest Rambo was actually quite decent, and when it comes to Rocky, only the fourth one felt like total trash (maybe slightly less so than Rambo 2 or 3); the rest are solid films, especially the most recent installment.

@bluenomad2/">@@bluenomad2: don't embarrass yourself here; Stallone is an exceptional actor.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#34 ·
bluecyclist64 said:I don't see it that way. The last Rambo was actually pretty decent. As for Rocky, only the fourth one is total trash—maybe slightly less than Rambo 2 or 3—but the rest are solid movies, especially the latest one.

Yeah, the fourth one is pure garbage, you're spot on there. 😁
@bluenomad2: don't embarrass yourself, Stallone is an amazing actor.

When he's on, he's on. I absolutely love him in Cop Land or F.I.S.T.
bluenomad2 bluenomad2 Active Member
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#35 ·
bluecyclist64 said:@bluenomad2/">@@bluenomad2: don't embarrass yourself, Stallone is an excellent actor.

Sure, he 🤣

People love to claim his performance in Cop Land was great. They use it as their go-to argument. Honestly? He barely pulled it off there, but one decent role doesn't make a career. That dramatic moment in the final
is easily one of the worst acting performances out there. Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger might be bad actors, but that’s not a problem for me because I like them. Get what I'm saying? I grew up on these guys; I live for their guilty pleasure action flicks. But they just can't deliver the kind of heavy-hitting roles required to be called "great." Arnold was convincing in The Terminator or Conan the Barbarian, sure, but that doesn't make him a master of the craft.

To me, they are action icons and always will be. I love them, awww 🙂
jadedrifter17 jadedrifter17 Member
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#36 ·
bluenomad2 said:Yeah, sure, whatever 🤣

Yo Adrian, Yo Adrian, Yo Adrian, Yo Adrian....😁
Karen Ward2 Karen Ward2 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#37 ·
Not everyone can be honest about what they truly felt. I remember it like it was yesterday—I actually teared up during that specific scene where his mouth twists all bloody right before he jerks... "Yo Adrian! I did it!"
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
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#38 ·
Timothy Taylor42 said:Not everyone can pull off a performance that raw and honest. I remember it like it was yesterday—I actually felt a tear escape my eye during that specific scene where his mouth contorts, all bloody and grim, and he just reaches out... "Yo Adrian! I did it!"

Exactly! 👍

Personally, I’d love to see Rambo take out those ISIS fanatics, then turn around and tear through the Bodybuilder group, giving their security teams hell...

But hey, we aren't going to see that movie anytime soon... 😢
Sophia Grant39 Sophia Grant39 Member
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#39 ·
He’s at his best playing those underdog characters who just grit their teeth and bulldoze their way to victory. It's basically urban fairy tales for the average blue-collar worker... He built his entire career on this formula. It’s all transparent and shallow, but it works perfectly because that's exactly the kind of escapism we crave. There's something entertaining about watching a marginalized guy actually pull it off without it feeling completely impossible.

That's the vibe of Rocky, Rambo, Over the Top, Daylight, Lock Up... essentially, aside from some overacting in comedies, all his roles follow this pattern, and he fits the part perfectly. He has that kind of face 😁
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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joined Mar 2009
#40 ·
bluenomad2 said:The film actually snagged an Oscar before Network even hit the scene, and... Taxi Driver 🤦

Can someone please explain to me—like I’m some wide-eyed freshman here—what all the hype is actually about regarding Taxi Driver? That Oscar keeps getting under my skin. It basically glorifies this total moron who’s incredibly unstable and obsessed with how filthy the world around him is... okay, fine, I get it. But what's the big deal? The guy grabs a gun, kills a few people at the end, and suddenly—poof—it's a Happy End, and he’s totally fine, functioning like a regular dude. I would've been much more on board if he'd just smoked a joint at the end too, but... whatever. The fact that Rocky won an Oscar over Taxi Driver is probably something a billion people have already pointed out. Yeah, sure, the movie is simple, yeah, the lead is a bit of a simpleton, and yeah, the "messages" are about as subtle as an elephant in a glass house... but damn, that movie hits way harder than Taxi Driver does. Or is it just that old cliché—you know, where you've got Stallone over there and Robert De Niro over here? Like, one has to be a hack just so the other can look like a genius?

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