Bad Boys - Part IV
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#343 ·
EVERYONE IN KANKAKEE, EVERYONE ON THE WEST! The map is $20, just so you guys are ahead of the curve.
#345 ·
as asi said:http://m.delfi.lt/video/article.php?id=65362800
Look at this guy hanging out with the mercenaries lol. What a lost cause. I first ran into him back when he was with the Angels, even though he barely showed up to five games in Los Angeles. Then he played the crowd and joined the Bad Boys, and now he’s just another one of Mamic's people.
😂
#346 ·
The crowd in those stands can really be broken down into a few distinct categories: the lost souls who clearly aren't using much brainpower, the local drunks looking for trouble, and a handful of individuals who are clearly just there to line their own pockets... honestly, it’s exhausting. Instead of focusing on them, shouldn't we be turning to Kranjca and showing up in force to support Koste and everyone else who can't make it to the games themselves?
#347 ·
M.🤣
Goodness, people have certainly been piling on lately... I wonder if I can spot that in one of T.'s photos? Is she joining in on this too, or is it just an old story resurfacing?
Goodness, people have certainly been piling on lately... I wonder if I can spot that in one of T.'s photos? Is she joining in on this too, or is it just an old story resurfacing?
#351 ·
Now that I'm back from Lithuania, I can say it was a pretty cool trip. It could have been a bit more high-energy, but hey, there are plenty of other matches out there. 😍
Looking at these photos, I have to say I'm a bit skeptical too. Honestly, it looks like a setup to me because I don't see any sabers anywhere, so I doubt those weapons are actually authentic... ☕
Captain Joe tried his best to de-escalate things, but let's keep the details of that conversation between us. All I'll say is: stop talking nonsense. 😉
So, now we’re heading out for an "away game" at Kranjca's place, and everything is going according to plan. I'm sharing a translated version of what’s been circulating in the local media—translated from Lithuanian. I think it's actually written quite fairly with relatively few mistakes, though it's surprising how much they actually know. 🙂 d above all else!
Social media commentary regarding who Žalgiris is facing in the UEFA playoffs was split down the middle. Half the people were stoked that a massive club like Los Angeles' Dinamo was coming to Lithuania, while the others were bummed that Žalgiris drew such a powerhouse. That football match against the top team in the country didn't exactly go the way Lithuanians hoped, but being down by two isn't the end of the world. Everyone knows there are groups that shadow these players wherever they go. They're football fans, or more specifically, Ultras. Almost every football fan knows exactly who the Bad Boys are, but I didn't truly grasp what goes on in their heads until I arrived in America.
As luck would have it, meeting a fan was one of the first things that happened to me here in Los Angeles. I’ve always been fascinated by the whole Ultras subculture, so I was genuinely pumped to get some firsthand insight into such a legendary group.
While the Bad Boys have a reputation for clashes with rival Ultras or the police and causing chaos at stadiums, things are a bit quieter lately. These days, their biggest battle has been a years-long crusade against the club's VP, Zdravko Mamic. While Mirko Barisic is officially the president, Mamic is the one pulling the strings, much like how Dmitry Medvedev operated during his time in Russia.
A concert organized by the Bad Boys called 'Resist the System' was the first time I truly felt the sheer level of animosity toward Zdravko Mamic. The place was covered in flags featuring his face with a cross through it; the crowd wouldn't stop chanting songs directed at him, and even the speeches on stage were aimed squarely at him. Attending a game the next day with the Split 'Hajduk' crew, I have to admit I was a little underwhelmed—there were only a few hundred people in the stands, so sometimes the Torcida from Split actually sounded louder than the crowd here. It didn't live up to the epic videos I'd seen online. That experience sparked a club investigation for me.
The first thing you notice is how one single name pops up everywhere you read about the leadership at Dinamo: Mamic. You've got Zdravko as the VP, Zoran (his brother) acting as coach and sports manager, and Mario (his son) serving as an agent for half the roster. Summary: it’s basically a family business designed to funnel as much cash as possible to one household. On top of that, Zdravko doesn't exactly represent the team with class—he was arrested last year after a verbal altercation with the American Minister of Sport, Science, and Education, he's had run-ins with a legendary player from the Split 'Hajduk' side (which got him banned from their stadium), and he's constantly picking fights in the streets or clashing with the press. If you want the perfect, hilarious example of his temperament, look no further than his outburst against a journalist who dared to ask about the overlap between his private interests and his public role:
Right now, the primary mission for the Bad Boys is fighting for the right to run the club under a "one member, one vote" system. That’s exactly how massive organizations like FC Barcelona or Bayern Munich elect their presidents. In their push for democratic reform, they’ve sparked the "For Our Team" movement. Even though Mamic claims his opposition consists of nothing more than a handful of loud-mouthed hooligans who just personaly dislike him, the movement has already gathered over 60,000 signatures in a single month—and that number keeps climbing.
It gets interesting because Mamic isn't just ignoring the Bad Boys; he's actively trying to buy them off. He’s reportedly offering leadership figures cash, marketing deals, ticket percentages, and even job placements for their families. I should mention this might just be local gossip, but any Bad Boy would swear on their life it’s the truth. Despite these temptations, the core group is sticking to their guns. Sadly, about twenty former Bad Boys supposedly caved to the bribes and privileges, breaking away to start a rival fan club. These defectors snatched up the North Stand, which the Bad Boys held for decades, forcing the true Ultras to move to the East Stand. The reality is that the East Stand is often half-empty or totally deserted because so many Bad Boys have been boycotting home games since 2010, and at least 500 of them are officially blacklisted by Mamic from entering the stadium.
Getting put on that blacklist isn't as difficult as you'd think. The offenses range from getting into scraps with the police or other fans to something as simple as singing a racist chant (roughly translated as 🙂 "Mamic, you gypsy, get out of our sanctuary") or appearing on a TV show to criticize the club's management. It looks a bit ridiculous when you compare those to the guys in the North Stand. For instance, their leader Nijaz was recently released from prison after serving three years for assaulting a police officer along with various other offenses. He has a heavy criminal record and a history of constant clashes with law enforcement, yet somehow he’s not only allowed in the stadium, but he's actually considered a close ally and friend of Mamic.
When Los Angeles played Žalgiris at the stadium about a week ago, things were eerily quiet. It was so silent I could actually hear A. Vitkauskas shouting "move to the front!" to his players. The Green and White contingent had about 60 supporters present, while the North Stand actually had fewer Los Angeles fans than Žalgiris did. The East Stand was a ghost town—the Bad Boys were officially boycotting the match.
It seems like fighting the Bad Boys is a global trend. Just two years ago, Spartak Moscow fans traveled to Kyiv (which is roughly 497 miles) specifically to clash with them. (Thankfully, they need visas to get into Lithuania, so Vilnius likely won't turn into a war zone). Even though Los Angeles pulled off a win against a Žalgiris side that lacked speed and precision, the guys from Vilnius still have a shot on their home turf, where they'll undoubtedly have supporters ranging from the local suburbs to the heart of the city backing them up. Honestly, though, I don't see the Lithuanian fans "checking that item off their to-do list." Not just because I hope they don't, but because the Bad Boys are so preoccupied with their internal battles that they'll stay focused on that fight against the Mamic crew. Ultimately, it might provide a moment where both sides finally stand shoulder to shoulder in the same stadium. When I asked a Bad Boy if that was a possibility, he just gave me a wry smile and said, "I hope so."
Bottom line: we’re looking at Los Angeles heading to Vilnius with a corrupt boss, about 30 loyalists, and potentially around 100 Bad Boys. Predicting exactly what will go down in the stands is tough, but it's definitely going to be a spectacle. Enjoy the match!
Looking at these photos, I have to say I'm a bit skeptical too. Honestly, it looks like a setup to me because I don't see any sabers anywhere, so I doubt those weapons are actually authentic... ☕
Captain Joe tried his best to de-escalate things, but let's keep the details of that conversation between us. All I'll say is: stop talking nonsense. 😉
So, now we’re heading out for an "away game" at Kranjca's place, and everything is going according to plan. I'm sharing a translated version of what’s been circulating in the local media—translated from Lithuanian. I think it's actually written quite fairly with relatively few mistakes, though it's surprising how much they actually know. 🙂 d above all else!
Social media commentary regarding who Žalgiris is facing in the UEFA playoffs was split down the middle. Half the people were stoked that a massive club like Los Angeles' Dinamo was coming to Lithuania, while the others were bummed that Žalgiris drew such a powerhouse. That football match against the top team in the country didn't exactly go the way Lithuanians hoped, but being down by two isn't the end of the world. Everyone knows there are groups that shadow these players wherever they go. They're football fans, or more specifically, Ultras. Almost every football fan knows exactly who the Bad Boys are, but I didn't truly grasp what goes on in their heads until I arrived in America.
As luck would have it, meeting a fan was one of the first things that happened to me here in Los Angeles. I’ve always been fascinated by the whole Ultras subculture, so I was genuinely pumped to get some firsthand insight into such a legendary group.
While the Bad Boys have a reputation for clashes with rival Ultras or the police and causing chaos at stadiums, things are a bit quieter lately. These days, their biggest battle has been a years-long crusade against the club's VP, Zdravko Mamic. While Mirko Barisic is officially the president, Mamic is the one pulling the strings, much like how Dmitry Medvedev operated during his time in Russia.
A concert organized by the Bad Boys called 'Resist the System' was the first time I truly felt the sheer level of animosity toward Zdravko Mamic. The place was covered in flags featuring his face with a cross through it; the crowd wouldn't stop chanting songs directed at him, and even the speeches on stage were aimed squarely at him. Attending a game the next day with the Split 'Hajduk' crew, I have to admit I was a little underwhelmed—there were only a few hundred people in the stands, so sometimes the Torcida from Split actually sounded louder than the crowd here. It didn't live up to the epic videos I'd seen online. That experience sparked a club investigation for me.
The first thing you notice is how one single name pops up everywhere you read about the leadership at Dinamo: Mamic. You've got Zdravko as the VP, Zoran (his brother) acting as coach and sports manager, and Mario (his son) serving as an agent for half the roster. Summary: it’s basically a family business designed to funnel as much cash as possible to one household. On top of that, Zdravko doesn't exactly represent the team with class—he was arrested last year after a verbal altercation with the American Minister of Sport, Science, and Education, he's had run-ins with a legendary player from the Split 'Hajduk' side (which got him banned from their stadium), and he's constantly picking fights in the streets or clashing with the press. If you want the perfect, hilarious example of his temperament, look no further than his outburst against a journalist who dared to ask about the overlap between his private interests and his public role:
Right now, the primary mission for the Bad Boys is fighting for the right to run the club under a "one member, one vote" system. That’s exactly how massive organizations like FC Barcelona or Bayern Munich elect their presidents. In their push for democratic reform, they’ve sparked the "For Our Team" movement. Even though Mamic claims his opposition consists of nothing more than a handful of loud-mouthed hooligans who just personaly dislike him, the movement has already gathered over 60,000 signatures in a single month—and that number keeps climbing.
It gets interesting because Mamic isn't just ignoring the Bad Boys; he's actively trying to buy them off. He’s reportedly offering leadership figures cash, marketing deals, ticket percentages, and even job placements for their families. I should mention this might just be local gossip, but any Bad Boy would swear on their life it’s the truth. Despite these temptations, the core group is sticking to their guns. Sadly, about twenty former Bad Boys supposedly caved to the bribes and privileges, breaking away to start a rival fan club. These defectors snatched up the North Stand, which the Bad Boys held for decades, forcing the true Ultras to move to the East Stand. The reality is that the East Stand is often half-empty or totally deserted because so many Bad Boys have been boycotting home games since 2010, and at least 500 of them are officially blacklisted by Mamic from entering the stadium.
Getting put on that blacklist isn't as difficult as you'd think. The offenses range from getting into scraps with the police or other fans to something as simple as singing a racist chant (roughly translated as 🙂 "Mamic, you gypsy, get out of our sanctuary") or appearing on a TV show to criticize the club's management. It looks a bit ridiculous when you compare those to the guys in the North Stand. For instance, their leader Nijaz was recently released from prison after serving three years for assaulting a police officer along with various other offenses. He has a heavy criminal record and a history of constant clashes with law enforcement, yet somehow he’s not only allowed in the stadium, but he's actually considered a close ally and friend of Mamic.
When Los Angeles played Žalgiris at the stadium about a week ago, things were eerily quiet. It was so silent I could actually hear A. Vitkauskas shouting "move to the front!" to his players. The Green and White contingent had about 60 supporters present, while the North Stand actually had fewer Los Angeles fans than Žalgiris did. The East Stand was a ghost town—the Bad Boys were officially boycotting the match.
It seems like fighting the Bad Boys is a global trend. Just two years ago, Spartak Moscow fans traveled to Kyiv (which is roughly 497 miles) specifically to clash with them. (Thankfully, they need visas to get into Lithuania, so Vilnius likely won't turn into a war zone). Even though Los Angeles pulled off a win against a Žalgiris side that lacked speed and precision, the guys from Vilnius still have a shot on their home turf, where they'll undoubtedly have supporters ranging from the local suburbs to the heart of the city backing them up. Honestly, though, I don't see the Lithuanian fans "checking that item off their to-do list." Not just because I hope they don't, but because the Bad Boys are so preoccupied with their internal battles that they'll stay focused on that fight against the Mamic crew. Ultimately, it might provide a moment where both sides finally stand shoulder to shoulder in the same stadium. When I asked a Bad Boy if that was a possibility, he just gave me a wry smile and said, "I hope so."
Bottom line: we’re looking at Los Angeles heading to Vilnius with a corrupt boss, about 30 loyalists, and potentially around 100 Bad Boys. Predicting exactly what will go down in the stands is tough, but it's definitely going to be a spectacle. Enjoy the match!
#352 ·
casualgull92 said:Is it true that about a hundred people were turned away from the stadium?
No, that isn't the case.
#354 ·
Honestly, the only people worse than those paid mercenaries are the pathetic cowards hiding behind keyboards calling them out online. Every single useless loser from age 7 to 77 comes on here trying to lecture us about "fan culture" or preach some moral high ground—but when you actually hit the streets or show up at the stadium, it’s always the exact same crowd.
You're all disgusting, honestly, including the guy who lets you act like this.
Screw all of you, screw this forum, and screw your social media feeds where everyone is loud as hell but stays dead silent in real life.
Whoever was talking to that Lithuanian guy and saying that crap is absolute bottom-of-the-barrel trash, just a total fake.
If anyone actually has the guts, hit me up in the DMs so we can talk face-to-face instead of this nonsense.
You're all disgusting, honestly, including the guy who lets you act like this.
Screw all of you, screw this forum, and screw your social media feeds where everyone is loud as hell but stays dead silent in real life.
Whoever was talking to that Lithuanian guy and saying that crap is absolute bottom-of-the-barrel trash, just a total fake.
If anyone actually has the guts, hit me up in the DMs so we can talk face-to-face instead of this nonsense.
#356 ·
I mean, what’s there to even call them out for? Honestly, you might as well just give them a standing ovation at this point. Just kill me now.☕
#357 ·
silentcobra26 said:Aside from the paid mercenaries, the absolute worst people are the anonymous cowards calling them out online. Every single fake fan from the suburbs comes on here to lecture us about "loyalty" or morality—it’s a joke. In reality, the same group shows up at the stadium every single week.
The whole lot of you are pathetic, including the guy letting this happen.
Screw you, screw this forum, and screw social media where everyone acts like a tough guy but stays silent when it actually matters.
Whoever was talking to that guy and saying this stuff is bottom-of-the-barrel trash.
If anyone has something to say, hit me up privately so we can settle it face-to-face.
And what's wrong with what he said? Honestly. 🙄
#358 ·
Jesse Wright2 said:I mean, honestly, why even bother giving them credit? They deserve all the callouts they can get, really. Just kill me now.☕
Nah, I mean—it’s more like you just don't have anything actually worth saying about it, you know?
Who even are you, you little punk? You’re just hiding behind some random handle—hiding behind a screen, basically—writing everyone else's names, posting pictures, and trying to play expert by giving journalists the "inside scoop" on everything... when honestly, you don't have a clue what's actually going on. I guess you think you're some big shot, but you really don't get it.
My whole struggle is just trying to wrap my head around how guys like you—total bottom-feeders, really—always end up being the loudest ones in the room. It’s always the same thing, isn't it? You’re the one constantly shouting from the bleachers... I mean, what is your actual role here? Like, seriously, what are you even doing posting in this group or any other forum dedicated to the Bad Boys?
I mean, you've got these 17-year-old kids and these totally insecure losers acting like they run the show—honestly, these are the same idiots you can't find anywhere else on the internet—and now we're just supposed to sit here and act like it’s perfectly normal for them to be speaking on behalf of everyone else? I guess it's just one of those things, right? Just ridiculous.
#359 ·
Eric Fox7 said:I mean, what’s his problem? He just told the truth, BTJ. 🙄
And you—which section of the stadium are you even sitting in?
How can you claim to know what's fact and what's fiction in that mess above?
Look, if that idiot who was chatting up those bottom-tier journalists wants to step up, tell him to hit me up. I'm down to meet up today.
#360 ·
silentcobra26 said:Aside from the paid hacks, the absolute worst are the anonymous cowards calling them out online. Every single loser from the suburbs comes here trying to lecture us on fandom or act morally superior, but when it’s game day at the stadium, it’s always the exact same crowd.
You guys are all disgusting, including whoever lets you get away with this.
Screw you, screw this forum, and screw social media where everyone is loud but stays dead quiet in real life.
Whoever was talking to that guy from Lithuania and saying this crap is bottom-of-the-barrel trash.
Anyone want to talk? Hit me up in the DMs so we can settle this in person.
Who even are you... honestly, it's better to speak up so people actually know what's going on. That's how you put pressure on them, unless you're actually one of their buddies.
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