Bad Boys - Part IV

Raymond Gonzalez7 said:A total loser just showed up. Hey, you little attention seeker, why don't you remember who you were hanging out with when you first started showing up to games? Back then, they treated you like a complete nobody. You were totally unwanted. You forgot all the people you used to brag about just to get invited to join the action, and now you're acting like some kind of objective saint. Watch your mouth before things get ugly and we start digging up all those "legendary" statements of yours.

So, there they were at the local park, 30 against 30, looking all innocent, while your little thugs and hooligans ran off toward the suburbs. At least the ones who actually showed up. Everyone knew what was going to happen—they’d been making threats for weeks about coming to the tournament—but once it was time, their courage vanished because they were terrified. They even ran away in their own neighborhood. But hey, it’s easy to talk big online, right?

The mod should probably just lock this thread before half these people end up behind bars.

GO TO HELL!!
Feel free to keep typing if it makes you feel better. That's really all you can do. Just tap-tap-tapping away on your keyboard...

Anonymous said:You really burned me there, but you still haven't actually answered my question. And you won't. You know why? Because 95% of the people on this forum don't have a say in the stadium, yet they're all here acting like experts. You're definitely part of that 95%.

One quick thing—I've been going to games solo since I was about 8, traveled to countless away games, maybe a bit less over the last decade, but I still go. I never felt the need to fight for a seat in the supporter groups or have a "voice" in the stands. I just showed up and jumped into everything spontaneously, even back during that legendary trip to the Great Wall. What can a few random commenters here actually prove? So, tell me: am I just a pushover, or am I a real fan if I never pushed to be part of the inner circle? Or should I have just given up a long time ago?
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Rock bottom. That’s all there is to say. Now, carry on.

Zachary Sullivan2 said:I've got a question. I’ve been traveling solo to games since I was 16—countless away games, though maybe fewer over the last decade, but I still go. I’ve never felt the need to be one of those guys fighting for a microphone or trying to lead the chants; I just show up and get involved spontaneously, like back during that legendary blowout game at the stadium in Chicago... anyone here can vouch for that. So, I'm wondering: am I just a pushover, or am I missing something if I haven't pushed to be a leader in the stands? Or do you think I should have just walked away years ago?
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You aren't a pushover, and I honestly don't see why you'd ever need to quit.

@e endsieg, I have a question, and it isn’t a provocation.

I’m just wondering what the actual point of your posts is. What exactly are you trying to prove or say?
I’ve watched you go back and forth with people here for quite some time now. They have their own views, but yours remain a mystery to me.
Whose side are you on? Are you defending someone, or perhaps offering advice?
I've been trying to wrap my head around it, but I just don't get it.

Robert Cooper60 said:Hey man, I've got a question, and I'm not trying to start anything here.

I’m just wondering—what’s actually the point of your posts? What are you trying to prove or get across?
It feels like you've been going back and forth with people here who have their own opinions for a while now, but I honestly can't wrap my head around yours.
Who are you sticking up for? Are you representing a certain group, or maybe just trying to offer some advice?
I'm genuinely trying to understand, but I'm just not getting it.

Look, I only chime in when someone calls me out. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't care about taking sides or picking a camp. I'm not here to compete with anyone or try to change how anyone thinks. I'm not defending any specific group or acting as a spokesperson for anyone either—I only look out for myself. Bottom line: if my name isn't mentioned and nobody's poking at me, I won't be posting.

Anonymous said:I’ll speak up if someone calls my name. That's it. No more, no less. I don't care about the East or the North. I'm not heading East, and I'm not heading North. I have zero interest in competing with anyone or trying to change anyone. I'm not out here defending people or representing anyone either—except myself. So, if my name isn't being called or dragged into this, just leave me out of it.

Then why are you posting all these lies on the forums? Seriously, tell me. It’s pretty funny how you guys living outside the States seem to have better intel than those of us actually living in NYC.

Anonymous said:I couldn't care less about the East or the North. I have no interest in heading that way. I don't feel the need to compete with anyone, nor do I have any desire to change anyone. For the same reason, I'm not out here defending anyone or representing anyone.

You’ll just keep going. Are you planning on becoming a skim?

Anonymous said:If this crew from the North had been dominating everyone across America for years, nobody could deny them that status.
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Friends. If they’re really such hooligans, why haven't they been blacklisted yet?

Douglas Barnes15 said:Then why are you spreading so many lies on the ultra forums? Seriously, tell me. It’s pretty funny how you guys living outside the States seem to have better intel than those of us actually living in NYC.

What lies? Everything I’ve said comes from a completely neutral perspective and it's the truth! Besides, the guy asked a question and I gave him an answer. I have zero reason to lie about anything. It's not my business, so why would I care?
And as for the "info" part—you're being ridiculous. Check your DMs. And while you're at it, why don't you point out where exactly I'm registered on all those German forums if you're going to make such a huge deal out of it?

Anonymous said:I’ll respond if I’m called out. Nothing more, nothing less. I couldn't care less about the East or the North. I'm not heading there, nor am I interested in it. I have no desire to compete with anyone or change anyone. I don't defend or represent anyone either, except myself. So, if my name isn't mentioned, leave me be.

It’s interesting how you claim to be indifferent to everything; honestly, it just makes you harder to read. 🤷

Fine, I admit you reply when someone targets you, but looking at your posts, it feels like you're trying to say something deeper most of the time—I just don't get it.
Like you want to take a stand like those crews out East, but then you backtrack...
It's just a loop.
You've got a strange way of operating.

electricmoose72 said:You're just gonna keep going? Are you planning on being a total bandwagoner?

Exactly.

Donmunich, let's be honest—everyone knows you're about as sharp as a marble. Nobody actually believes you're pocketing any cash because, frankly, you lack the competence for it. But mark my words: one day, nobody is going to care about your excuses either.

mistyorca4 said:Look, friends. If they’re such thugs, why aren't they blacklisted?

The saddest part is what they actually are. I don't know about everyone else, but I've personally seen a few names on one list, then saw those exact same people showing up in the North section. I even know a couple who got banned after the cup final against Cleveland, only to resurface in the North during the last round. It's ridiculous. Apparently, if you just play the "I don't care about anything, I just support Dynamo" card, all your sins are wiped clean.🙂

God, what the hell is this bastard doing now... seriously...😢

Anonymous said:Even though I'm not up North and I spent my time fighting against them. People like you just hid behind them because you didn't have the guts to handle the problem Placenik yourselves. Let me address this point as well. I actually root for people like you—those who eventually step up and stand by their own names. If you did that, I’d have someone to truly go toe-to-toe with, allowing me to work through my own trivial hang-ups on you. That would be a healing process. If you haven't grasped that yet, just shoot me a DM so we can coordinate.

Listen, man, you can keep all that big-city attitude. Honestly, out of pure spite, I’d give anything to be back in those old street fights near the outskirts of Chicago. Is it true you won't even step up for a real scrap anymore? It's hilarious. All of Europe knows your reputation, yet here you are, obsessing over these small-time losers who won't even give you their real names. Even the hardcore fans from New York respect you more and trust you more than your own people do.

"all of Europe" 🤣... honestly, the guy doesn't even seem to know which club he's actually rooting for. He's just sitting there waiting for some Rapid fans to broker a new friendship, acting like he's part of the inner circle just to feel important. 🙂

Look, everything else is fine. But if you aren't standing shoulder to shoulder with the BBB, you're missing one huge thing: repression.

The main reason I fight Mamić isn't even because he's a thief or because he trashed Dynamo. It's because he tried to wipe out the entire supporter movement.

And I've been saying this for 11 years. This soccer mafia—new faces, same old script—is trying to kill off the fans. People who voljeti ZM and the rest of the crew know this. So I don't get why they act clueless when I tell them exactly why we have to go after Mamić.

You can feel however you want about Mamić or what's going on inside the BBB. But for God's sake, be a real fan. Supporting Mamić right now is like being a skinhead in Israel. ☕

All that talk about "he screwed me over" or "I won't hang with those guys" sounds like the old "the house is burning down while grandma fixes her hair." After last season—the blacklists, the vouchers, the games getting shut down—I shouldn't have to explain to any American fan who's actually out to get us. Period. 😉

Jesse Campbell said:Look, everything else is fine. But if you aren't standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the Bad Boys in the stands, you’re missing one massive point: repression.

My main reason for fighting Mamić isn't just because he's a thief or because he gutted Dynamo. It's because he tried to wipe out the entire supporter movement.

And I've been saying this for eleven years now. The soccer mafia—the faces change, but the playbook stays the same—is actively trying to destroy the fans. People who love ZM and the whole crew know this. That's why I've never understood why they play dumb when I tell them exactly why we have to take down Mamić.

You can have whatever opinion you want about Mamić or the internal drama within the Bad Boys. But for heaven's sake, if you call yourself a fan, siding with Mamić right now is like being a skinhead in Israel. ☕All this talk about "he screwed me over" or "I won't hang out with those guys"—it's like that old saying, "While the village is burning, the old lady is busy combing her hair." After last season—the blacklists, the vouchers, the match stoppages, all of it—I shouldn't have to explain to a single fan in America who is actually coming for our heads. Period. 😉

Exactly. Knowing the fact that he's setting you up for criminal charges, harassing you more than anyone in the history of organized fandom, and doing everything in his power to wreck your personal and professional life... and then choosing to head to the North stands when you know that move means signing away the entire fight and the whole movement? 🙂
I don't agree with half the stuff happening inside the group. I think a ton of wrong moves have been made, and way too much is done on an ad hoc basis without thinking. I've always told the leadership my mind, regardless of the fallout, and I've clashed with them a million times because of their total lack of awareness... but never, ever, did I consider giving those bastards in management legitimacy or essentially holding the door open for them while they pull this garbage. Walking away to the North stands isn't just about money or "agency," as they call it... it's directly helping those scumbags with their theft and their attempt to kill off the supporter movement as we know it. It's a direct betrayal of everyone suffering under this police-mafia clique.

Peter Robinson21 said:there’s just so much noise, and like I said, I’m done getting sucked into all this nonsense... everyone claims they're telling the truth, and everyone's lying

Hold on, look—on one hand you’ve got people feeding you "I heard this" and "they say that," which is exactly the kind of idiotic garbage that leads to situations where some guy actually has to pull out his lease papers in front of a whole crowd just to prove he’s lived in his apartment for 20 years. But on the other hand, you have the North employment plan and program, officially titled "From the Stands to the Workforce," which was publicly released, along with how the Dinamo Chicago board signed off on it within those 10 points (even though they were supposed to release 13). And now we're talking about "he said, she said"?? Since you're so obsessed with bringing it up anyway, why don't you just get to the point and tell us what you actually heard? Because this is getting ridiculous—you're pitting official facts published by the actual players against this endless loop of "Black told me that White heard that Yellow said that Mookie heard that Kiki heard." Who isn't even from the North 🙄
What kind of retarded argument is this even supposed to be? Honestly, it reminds me of that pathetic excuse for a history lesson back in '91 about "nationalists from all sides tearing apart our beloved Yugoslavia, boo-hoo." It’s the lowest-tier propaganda trick in the book—just trying to relativize everything and everyone to avoid the actual issue.

Charles Jackson3 said:I'm not even ashamed to admit that my old man is practically begging me to write stuff against Mamić and the graffiti too.

I'd write it anyway, so I might as well take the win. And Mookie acts like he's totally above it all, but I actually saw him grabbing coffee with Miranda, looking all cozy, while Miranda was sliding some cash his way like, "here, take this, take this."

So let's stop lying to ourselves. I bet there are plenty more of you working for them, you're just too chicken to say it.

Is the register at Opačić's place anything else but a joke? It's purely fiscal now; Linich basically forced them to start issuing formal receipts for everything, so now the crew has to wait in line for half an hour just to get paid. 🙂 🙂