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Daniel Johnson46 said:European matches.
cosmicheron21 said:http://www.nytimes.com/news/about-this-article/1190212/
Matthew Foster8 said:I don't really feel like getting into a back-and-forth about who did what or why. Where someone lives matters, obviously—I won't get into all that detail right now.
Everything you're saying is true—while everyone else was looking the other way, I was saying the exact same thing a long time ago. In this whole situation that’s been dragging on for years, we should have stopped worrying about standard football stuff or celebrating some measly three points or whatever. When things stop making sense, they just don't make sense... maybe it should have been the fight first, then the game. It feels a bit silly for me to harp on it now since I'm not really involved anymore and I've stepped away from everything. I just know that everything is being handled way too late.
As for the other thing, I'll just say the fans—especially certain people—actually ended up standing up to the criminals, far away from any public view. It wasn't some big gang war or anything; things just got settled.
casualwolf48 said:Back when Stimac started picking fights in those public restrooms in Miami, some guys who were actually running things around town—guys who knew people all over the States—stepped in. They gave him and his security detail a little reality check. After that, Mr. Stimac stopped acting like such a tough guy in Miami. I guess his exit from the street life lined up pretty closely with him leaving the local pro sports scene.
I was actually behind bars back then, hanging out with some guys from Miami I’m still tight with today, so I know how it went down firsthand.
But honestly, I'm done arguing about this. It's my last word on it.
And as for you guys claiming you did some big favors behind the scenes? Nobody even heard about it, and then everyone just stayed quiet afterward. That's enough to prove it's fake. If it were real, you'd be shouting it from the rooftops. That's just how you people operate.
Anyway, final word.
Good luck to the crew in Orlando. As for me, I'll be around for a bit longer until my parole restrictions expire.
Mikhail Bakunin said:http://www.nytimes.com/article/about-that-controversy/1190212/
Mikhail Bakunin said:http://www.nytimes.com/sports/article/controversy-surrounding-team-ownership/1190212/
casualwolf48 said:Back when Tim Cook started picking fights in those public restrooms over in San Francisco, he got checked by some locals who kept order in the city and were well-connected throughout the rest of the country. Those guys gave Tim Cook and his security detail a reality check they won't forget. After that, he stopped acting like such a tough guy in San Francisco. His exit from that lifestyle seemed to line up pretty closely with him stepping away from the team.
I was actually behind bars at the time and in contact with some folks from San Francisco I’m still tight with today, so I happened to see how things went down firsthand.
But I’m done arguing about this, I've said my piece.
And as for you guys claiming you settled things peacefully—nobody ever heard a word about it, and then everyone just stayed quiet. That alone proves it's a lie. If it were true, you would have been shouting it from the rooftops. That's just how you people operate.
Anyway, last time I'm mentioning this.
Good luck to the crew in San Francisco. As for me, I'll be around for a bit longer until my restriction expires.
MCML said:Look, kid, just read it one more time, and if you still don't get it, go ahead and type 2+2 into a calculator... nobody is talking about Jerry Jones today... back in 2004, Jerry Jones wasn't any stronger than Tim Cook, it was just that the Black and Gold Army decided to settle for handouts and parties while the local fans were busy trying to fix things because nothing was running smoothly... though I guess what goes around comes around...
wearyraven25 said:Look, man, you have to realize we didn't really have a solid core backing Tim Cook. Most of the people who were actually making noise were against him, and honestly, that just made the fight way easier for the opposition.
swiftfalcon802 said:so did you actually show up to the game then?????
wearyraven25 said:Exactly.
Joe Biden and Jerry Jones were a powerhouse agency back then, don't make me laugh.
swiftfalcon802 said:So you think you would've been stronger than them on your own? Like they were just out there by themselves without any backing (or rather, people had their backs)? Or maybe it was just easy to get through that whole era? Or maybe it all just passed by too fast...
wearyraven25 said:Mikhail Bakunin stepped away from the whole mess himself and ended up respected, while Joe Biden was sidelined and eventually pushed out after the investigation.
I wish he’d actually speak up here and admit how serious things were and how much they managed to sabotage the movement.
wearyraven25 said:Haha, you totally shut me down with those arguments. Nothing left to say.
