Bad Boys - Part IV

NEVER BACK DOWN!

hiddenfox64 said:Most people probably won't agree with me, but quietly abandoning the north end? It’s borderline pathetic. In the old days, that would have been unthinkable. That's my take.

I am in complete agreement with you. Back when we were in Chicago, Indianapolis, or on the 1st, we always stood our ground—even in Milwaukee after the game. But regarding today, you have to face reality. Half the leadership was missing, and half the starting squad wasn't there either. Those of us who actually made it through the gates did what we could with the crowd we had. When your entire section consists of maybe 20 or 30 people, and you divide that by the few willing to risk new bans, then divide that again by the kids under 20 who have never even seen a baton... you end up with an embarrassingly small number of people left to hold the line. Honestly, walking away might be the smartest move. If we stay, the whole sector gets penalized, and some will get banned for "verbal offenses." It is easy to play general after the battle is over.

edit: Besides, why bother justifying ourselves to the idiots on this forum?

Jerry Morris2 said:I’m totally with you on this. When we were in Chicago, Indianapolis, back on January 1st, and even during every trip since—including when we hit Milwaukee after the game—we always stood our ground. But you have to realize that for today, half the leadership wasn't there, half the first squad was missing, and the few of us who actually made it through the gates just did the best we could with the crowd we had. When your whole section is only 20 or 30 people, and then you divide that by two because half of them are going to freeze up, and then you divide that by two again because half of us are under 20 and haven't even felt a nightstick yet, you end up with a pathetic number of guys actually left standing. Honestly, playing it this way might be the smartest move because it makes it look like the entire sector is getting penalized, while some guys end up banned just for "verbal offenses." It’s easy to play general after the battle is over.

Look, speaking as just some random neutral fan, I'm telling you that you didn't mess up; if anything, you played it smart. You made a tactical move, and you have to remember that sometimes being clever is better than trying to fight force with force.😉
If you had handled it differently, you would have just handed the opposition ammunition to call you savages or barbarians brawling with the cops.

Sometimes an outsider sees things more realistically and objectively than you lot do from the inside, and they can give you a much clearer picture of what's actually happening.

Wait a second, is this ego-tripper seriously trying to buy out the entire police force, the whole judicial system, and now he’s even aiming for the EU just so he can slap them with some imaginary fine he cooked up himself? I mean, honestly, am I the only one who finds this impossible to believe, or is it actually true that 95% of people in this world are just nothing more than low-level mercenaries?

A quiet exit from the conflict is actually the better way to wrap this up. If things had escalated, the propaganda machine would have just twisted the narrative again, painting everyone as mindless savages who practically begged to be beaten down. Especially when you don't have a massive, unified front capable of standing its ground against the armored batons of a police force backed by state-sponsored mobsters.
If we were being total perfectionists about it, maybe the whole crowd should have just sat down on the pavement and forced the cops to haul them out one by one—you know, that classic passive resistance tactic you see at protests. It would have dragged on forever, and we’d have seen those slogans chanted over and over, slowly turning into a symbol of democracy here in America.
But honestly, only the people right in the thick of it truly know what was possible in that split second.

On the flip side, these heavy-handed crackdowns show exactly how much it gets under their skin when people keep shouting their slogans. It’s an excellent way to provoke them and remind them where they belong: face down in the dirt.
We could potentially get some lawyers involved to file a lawsuit with the international courts handling human rights, or even use some connections to alert supporter groups all across Europe. That way, we could apply pressure through solidarity banners and chants during matches across the continent.

P.S. Maybe someone from the leadership should reach out to those Moldavian fans and see if they'll put up a support banner in return, along with any other Dynamo rivals down the road, if we can make that happen. We need to milk this repression for all it's worth and take it global.

I swear, if I have to deal with Mamic one more time, I’m going to lose it; my mother is constantly riding my back because my clean laundry comes out of the wash covered in floor grime from sitting on the ground. It makes me wonder, what on earth are we even paying for these cleaning services for if this is the result?

I’m not exactly a huge fan of the Bad Boys. I’m not here to defend how you guys "support" the club, but what went down tonight was an unprecedented scandal. Honestly, even Stalin wouldn't have pulled something like this. It was pure repression.
The fans were shouting profanities—for crying out loud, you just don't see that kind of chaos in the stands.🙂

America joined the EU, yet we have one individual who doesn't just control the entire football landscape in this country, but now seems to be pulling the strings of the police too.
How would he have acted if he had been in power during the communist era?
Half the fans probably wouldn't have made it out of the stadium alive.

It is obvious that defeating him will be an uphill battle. Your only real option is a BOYCOTT.
But I mean a total boycott of everyone connected to Dynamo. Boycott all the media outlets. No news station should report on Dynamo, no newspaper, no digital portal. Nobody should show up to the stands. Start showing massive support for some other local team instead. Maybe Cibona, or RK Chicago, or even some bottom-tier underdog... Win over the media. Divert the attention away from Dynamo and Mamic. Let him get as little TV time and press coverage as possible.
Mamic feeds on this. He doesn't need fans when he has constant media attention. That's what attracts the sponsors. As long as the money keeps flowing, he stays right where he is.
Unfortunately, Dynamo's fate is tied directly to the money. If you want to get rid of Mamic, Dynamo has to be significantly weaker financially than it is now, which naturally leads to worse results on the pitch.
But I believe most of you would accept playing in a lower league if it meant putting things back where they belong.

So, regardless of everything, sending my support to the Bad Boys from Sarajevo.
Hang in there in your fight for a civic-minded Dynamo, and above all, in your fight for your basic human rights!

-For all those whistleblowers out West, and our pals over at UEFA and the folks in San Francisco, here's a quick clip from a lovely European country. It’s a place where things actually run smoothly, fans act with some decency, and "she" really knows how to keep order.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6MyknkaUM

-Big thanks to everyone up North tonight. You guys made the smart call by not letting a repeat of what happened on the 15th happen. Sending my best to the guys heading out for the away leg.

That calm exit from the stands was a total slap in the face to all those idiots who were bloodily waiting for a new 1.5. era, including the turtle. They’re left there feeling unsatisfied—just a bunch of losers and slobbering wrecks.
The group just demonstrated a whole new level of strength; showing that even in a crisis, you can collectively push back against the majority's emotions. It proved the opposition isn't strong enough to break the group's unity when things get real. The stands looked ridiculous with that empty gap in the middle, and the stadium felt eerily quiet after the purge. Honestly, anyone with half a brain could see the truth behind this whole situation.

Good luck!

I’ve been sitting here reading through all of this and scrolling through the photos, and honestly, I have a lump in my throat... it’s enough to make me weep, it truly breaks my heart.
It feels as though we’re talking about a legendary outlaw and his devoted street gang.

Best of luck to the Bad Boys...

And now they’re calling for mobilization! Honestly, whoever decides to screw over the group can just go ahead and live with the consequences of their own actions.

If things didn't completely fall apart after May 1st and all those other messes we've dealt with, I highly doubt they're going to start falling apart now.

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Huge loss for Mamic. You guys totally exposed him. This is going to leave a mark. Honestly, I’m taking full credit for this win, because once I saw what they were plotting, I sat down and started praying the Rosary in front of the TV, which basically stopped things from spiraling out of control. But hey, I won't dwell on that...

And those people who think we should have been brawling with the police? You know why they give advice like that? It's because their lives are incredibly boring. They think their evening would be more exciting if they were watching a live beatdown, but they couldn't care less if someone actually lost an eye or got shot. That’s the only explanation, really, since there isn't a single strategic reason to think the way they do. If you had gone in aggressive, it would be like a woman offering you sex and you responding by hitting her with a toothbrush instead...

Total schizophrenic self-goal...

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I’m talking about those other folks—the ones boycotting, the ones who are just completely fed up with everything... there are millions of them out there. It's now or never.

It was incredibly shady how he dragged those guys into this whole mess. Using a conference as cover. He’s painting the Bad Boys as Nazis just to win over UEFA, while nobody in America has any clue why this is even happening.

I suppose I have to ask why everyone is staying away for whatever reason they might have; you really ought to come back and support your friends. It’s about time, I guess. As for today, my compliments to everyone who showed up.

Look, people have been calling for action regarding these games a million times before. If there was ever a moment where we needed to stand up and say ENOUGH, I guess it’s right now. Maybe we should look past individual boycotts and just unite as one, similar to how things used to be. I don't mean to lecture anyone, but it feels like it might truly be time. Best.

Everything clicks once you see the big picture.
It’s obvious why the West stands was empty—there was plenty of room, but Mamic basically banned anyone from heading East, forcing us North where they have total control over us.
No other stadium would've seen this kind of exodus; we walked right into a trap, but honestly? We came out on top. Walking away from both Mamic and the cops to screw up their whole plan and dodge that 1.5% fee—that’s just pure perfection!

Huge props to everyone—we made some serious noise, chanting "Blue, blue, we gave our lives for you," and it sounded incredible.

I’ve never seen a section clear out like this before. Not even the English, the Germans, or anyone else with way more intense insults have ever pulled something like this off.
What Tuđman used to do, Mamic is doing today.

Man, what happened last night was honestly embarrassing. I still can't wrap my head around it. It feels like they’ve basically introduced a ban on free speech in America again.
I just can't bring myself to call that a win for the Black and Gold faithful. Mamić got exactly what he wanted. He’s just stacking up more mercenaries—or just people with zero brains—in the stands who boo your chants and cheer when the announcer threatens to kick you out. Plus, he’s got the media right where he wants them, ready to paint you guys as paid agitators trying to ruin Real Madrid, or racists, or whatever label they feel like slapping on you this time..
On the flip side, it’s probably a good thing things didn't turn violent, because you guys would've been absolutely wrecked. You gotta be smart and pick your battles.

Setting everything else aside, last night was a total loss for our country and our society. Watching the police publicly take a criminal's side and toss people out of the stadium just because they dared to offer some opposition... it really shows which way this government is heading. They're just using Mamić to push their own agenda, sneakily rolling out restrictions on speech through the back door. That's actually way more dangerous.

Long story short, everyone lost last night—you, us, all of us together.

I honestly can't wrap my head around the absolute brain rot coming from people who don't even follow soccer—you know, those folks who just watch a game on TV with a beer in hand while nursing a gambling addiction and thinking they're experts.

It’s wild how they’ve managed to paint this picture of hardcore fans being some kind of existential threat to humanity.

Seriously, people, wake up. They’re targeting us at the stadium today, but tomorrow? It could be right in your own backyard.

Support coming in from Cleveland.