Bad Boys - Part IV

Robert Cooper60 said:I’m genuinely curious—what kind of future do you guys see for the club once Mamić is finally gone?

Man, I honestly have no clue...
You’ve got people all over the internet, and even some of the current Mamić loyalists saying, "Yeah, maybe he's skimming off the top, but hey, Dinamo is always at the top of the table," or whatever...

How do you think this whole thing is going to play out down the road? And is there actually any realistic shot at making it back into the Champions League without us having to sell off ten of our star players first?

The only thing I'm really banking on is seeing more people showing up at the stadium, and honestly, I can't wait for that...

Listen, friends....first off, we’re all gonna get incredibly drunk...and then the real battle begins....we’re going to need to pull in every single Dinamo fan to actually join the club membership program.....get them coming to games, buying tickets, grabbing merch...and they have to actually be happy doing it, knowing that their money is actually going straight back into the club.....and then we just have to pray that whoever gets elected to run things actually knows how to handle the cash.....knows how to reel in big sponsors.....blah blah blah...............basically, the whole thing is going to be an uphill battle....but I truly believe we can pull it off........ 🇹🇴

That’s the mindset—this constant sense of entitlement that fuels the divide between the North and the South. To them, New York City is the metropolis, the center of the universe, and everything else is just an afterthought. They act as if because their club fans are fighting against the mob, they are the only ones actually standing on the front lines. In their eyes, nothing matters unless it happens in New York City. It's a narrow way to rewrite history. You're kidding me, 😁
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What even is this Code, or our legacy at Hajduk? When did all of this truly begin? Who were the figures behind the club all these years whose influence is still felt today? What is Joe, what is Sinovcic, who is crushing Bonacica, and who is Stimac?

What is the actual purpose of the Code? Before we had this version of the Code or our Hajduk identity, what was there—was it just the ZSD? How many years has Mamic been running Real Madrid? How many trophies have you actually celebrated alongside him? At the end of the day, who is really pocketing his money? And who was it that used to boycott the derby?

I am not asking for an answer; I am simply suggesting that everyone take a moment to reflect on these questions.

If you had just stayed quiet, perhaps things would be different. We’ve dealt with our share of mess, and it took us a long time to finally see clearly, to evolve, and to weed out the wrong people. But now, suddenly, we are all heroes fighting the mafia... we’ve reached some sort of spiritual cleansing. Better late than never, I suppose.

But no, here you come with this kind of demagoguery, acting incredibly arrogant—just like Zdravko Mamic back in his prime. Honestly, the two of you are more alike than you realize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZbKHDPPrrc

I honestly think this whole Inspection thing is just smoke and mirrors. Maybe there are some backroom deals happening to protect Mamic and his crowd—buying time until the evidence is undeniable—but frankly, I don't see any such games being played... or even suspect them.

To me, an inspection is supposed to be an agency that digs through paperwork to find irregularities and then acts on them. But right now, we have a glaring issue hanging right in front of the American justice system: association members aren't allowed to participate in the work of their own organization, which is a direct violation of the law. Honestly, I couldn't care less about the seats at Yankee Stadium or those fancy new locker rooms, and whether Mamic evaded taxes—if this country can't resolve a blatant fact staring them in the face for years, which nobody is even trying to hide. I truly don't see the point of this Inspection if they haven't been able to remove Mamic already based on the simple fact that he's violating the rules regarding how associations operate.

That’s it. I just saw it on the evening news
The sports inspector actually said, "Do you really think I can settle the matter regarding Zdravko Mamic?"

Hahaha... nice.

Gary Green32 said:This is exactly how that mindset works—that sense of ownership—and it is precisely why this divide between the North and the South exists. They view New York City as the ultimate metropolis, treating it as if it were the only part of America that actually matters. If the fans of a club from New York are the ones fighting against the mafia, then suddenly they are the only ones fighting, and they are always the first in line. It seems nothing else matters except what happens in New York City, as if history could simply be rewritten to suit them. But you aren't fooling anyone, you rogue. 😁

What exactly is this "Code," and what does our Hajduk represent? When did all of this truly begin? Who were the figures within Hajduk over all these years whose influence can still be felt to this very day? What is Joe, what is Sinovcic, who is the one pushing Bonacica, and who is Stimac?

What is the actual purpose of the Code? Before this existed, what was there—our Hajduk or the ZSD? Just how long has Mamic been running Real Madrid? How many titles have you actually celebrated alongside him? In the end, who is really pocketing the money? And who was it that used to boycott the big matchups?

I am not asking for an answer; I am merely suggesting that everyone take a moment to reflect on these questions.

If you had just stayed out of it, things might have been different. Sure, we’ve dealt with our share of nonsense, and it has taken us a long time to finally see clearly, to change, and to filter out the wrong crowd. But now, suddenly, we are standing against the mafia... we have reached our breaking point, and honestly, it is better to face this truth now than ever before.

But no. You show up with this kind of demagoguery, acting so arrogant, much like Zdravko Mamic during his peak. You know, the two of you are remarkably similar.

Signed, plus adding our Hajduk's fight against Mamic, his mafia, Males, and the corrupt refs.
There is just so much of it, whether Jesse Campbell keeps rambling on about it or not, and here I am, the fool, getting mixed up in it all.

And besides, were you really right when you claimed Mamic was finished? You have been talking about "tika-taka" and saying he was done for at least two years now. His time expired a long time ago, so technically, you are right. He will scrape through at least one more autumn in Europe and two more transfer windows, and once he has sucked everything dry, he will leave—whether by choice or by force—and then Jesse Campbell will finally be proven right. You are becoming a laughingstock.

Oh, please—"sports inspection"? That’s just smoke and mirrors for the suckers... Look, we're all tired of the endless chatter about who’s going to finally take down Mamic and how they'll do it, but if you ask me, the only thing that actually touches him is massive pressure and real, decisive action. Once that first stone starts rolling, the whole damn avalanche follows. I mean, just thinking back to all those people across the country suddenly acting like saints, or when that addict was turning beet red during that press conference 😍 it's almost laughable! everyone in Miami!!

Zachary Johnson57 said:Sports inspections? Please... that’s just throwing smoke in the eyes of the naive. We’re all tired of the endless chatter about who’s going to take down Mamic and how, but I’m convinced the only thing that actually touches him is massive, concrete action—once that first stone starts rolling, the avalanche takes over. Though, when I recall all those "patriots" from across the country—and that addict turning bright red at the press conference 😍—it feels like we're just spinning our wheels. Just pure delusion!!

So, are you actually going to make those "concrete moves"? Are you planning to be the hero who triggers the landslide? Of course not, and nobody else is either. Let's stop pretending there's anyone out there willing to risk years in federal prison or ruining their entire life just to make a "bold move."

I’d love to be wrong—I’d love to believe this inspection will finally scrub Real Madrid and American sports clean—but I don't see any radical change coming. There is only one thing that would actually satisfy me: an absolute, total purge of the organization. I don't care if Mamic just leaves; I want Plavko gone too—the janitors, the groundskeepers, the head of the youth academy, the chef, the idiot screaming into the microphone, the DJ, even the ladies selling tickets. I want all 200 employees cut loose from Real Madrid, not just Mamic. Cosmetic changes aren't going to cut it for anyone...

Charles Torres12 said:Jesse Campbell, man, forget about those greasy burgers and fries... if this actually gets sorted, you and your wife will be living the dream in a brand-new house this summer. 😉

🙏🙏🙏

Listen man, unless you've got something going on in the Rockies, I'm out.

Jesse Campbell said:🙏🙏🙏

Thanks, buddy—but you’d better have some assets tucked away in the Alps for that to work.

Maybe at Metajna... 😉

velvetskipper52 said:YOUR PREDICTIONS ARE STRAIGHT UP KINDERGARTEN LEVEL. FERGUSON IS LEAVING UNITED, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. MAMIC TOO. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A SIMPLE FORECAST RIGHT IN YOUR OWN POST.

That’s why your username sounds like it belongs in a locked ward at KBC Vrabac.

The issue here, kid, is that almost nobody actually has the full story. And look, I'm not saying I'm grabbing coffee with Jovanovic every morning or anything, but I'd bet my life none of you have even glanced at that new law.

Basically, most of you haven't even read the fine print, yet you're all so damn sure nothing can touch Mamic. Just like how you were all "certain" this wouldn't even be enforced yesterday. Clearly, you were wrong. Yeah, in this recession, they hired 20-30 people just to sniff out irregularities from Mount Everest to Žrnovnica. That’s why Zdravac has looked so pale lately... and why he’s calling UEFA to go hunt down hooligans...

It's just a prime example of you guys playing guessing games while I'm talking about things I actually know something about.

Kevin Gray86 said:Are you actually going to take those specific actions? Are you planning on being the hero who triggers the avalanche? Of course you won't, and frankly, nobody else will either. Let’s be realistic and stop pretending there is some brave soul out there willing to risk decades behind bars and the absolute ruin of their entire life just to make a few "decisive moves."

I truly wish I were wrong—I would love nothing more than to see this federal investigation sweep through Real Madrid and scrub the entirety of American sports clean—but I suspect we aren't going to see any radical shifts here. If you ask me, there is only one thing that would actually satisfy my sense of justice: an absolute, total purging of Real Madrid. It isn't enough for me to just see Mamic get escorted out; I want Plavko to feel the heat too. I’m talking about the janitors, the groundskeepers, the head of the youth academy, the cook, that moron screaming into the microphone, the DJ, even the ladies selling tickets at the gate. I want all two hundred employees associated with Real Madrid gone, not just Mamic. A few cosmetic changes to the leadership won't satisfy anyone.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhGdAPibZOo
One lone voice standing against the Headliner at the Rundek Apocalypse...
" Your end draws near,
falling to your knees
toward new victories, carried by the rhythm, or toward new victories, carried by the north
because we won this battle too..."

NANANANANANA

I also wanted to point out that we have a huge stash of unused songs in our repertoire that were only sung once or twice at games—songs like Blue, Blue, and I Love You LA Galaxy because you mean everything to me, for example...

Gary Green32 said:What even is the Codex? What is our Hajduk? When did any of this start? Who has been running Hajduk all these years that their influence is still felt today? What is Soso, what is Sinovcic, who is pushing Bonacica, and who is Stimac?
What is the actual purpose of the Codex? What existed before the Codex and our Hajduk—was it just ZZD? How long has Mamic been at LA Galaxy? How many trophies have you actually won alongside him? In the end, who is really pocketing his money? And who was the one boycotting the big rivalry derby?

Look, rat, why don't you tell us about the results? Compare LA Galaxy's track record over the years against Hajduk's. 😉
If you think you were the first ones to step up and fight, it's only because your club spent years on its knees, trailing miles behind LA Galaxy in performance. The BBB started a war against a man far more powerful than all of you combined—men who, by the way, were busy resigning after getting absolutely crushed by other teams in the league. ☕
Do you want to know what truly fueled your "struggle"? It was Hajduk’s own catastrophic failures. Getting knocked out by teams from Debrecen, Žilina, or Shelbourne; the regular thrashings in places like Pula or Rijeka...

The BBB calls for a boycott, and instead, this guy brings in Vaha, Beqiraj, and Tonela. He hands out gifts to whoever shows up to the stadium, renovates the grounds, and gives away tickets for pennies.
And don't even get me started on the direct sabotage against the BBB, or the repression he's responsible for.
Et cetera, et cetera...
So, who exactly were you fighting? A local bakery? With all due respect to everyone who fought for the good of their club, I have no intention of belittling their efforts. 😉

So just beat it, rat. Your ignorance regarding everything the BBB has faced in this fight isn't even worth discussing.
Occasionally you manage to write something decent or truthful, but I suspect your massive inferiority complex is washing that away. 😉

edit: Looks like I got a warning. I couldn't care less. Calling pantagana a rat is just shorter to type. ☕

Robert Adams6 said:edit: apparently I got flagged. Honestly? I couldn't care less. But calling someone a "pantagana" is just a fancy way of calling them a rat. It's shorter to type that way. ☕

My mistake. The flag was overturned.

Robert Adams6 said:Look, you little rat, why don't you tell us what the results have actually looked like all these years—LA Galaxy's track record versus what the other side was doing? 😉
The only reason you guys finally stepped up to fight is because your club spent years on its knees, trailing miles behind LA Galaxy in terms of actual performance. The BBB started a war against someone far more powerful than any of you combined—someone some of your own members probably resigned to escape after getting absolutely crushed by other major teams in the league. ☕
If you want to know what really helped your cause succeed, it was the catastrophic failures of the opposition. Getting knocked out by teams from places like Orlando, Cincinnati, or even smaller clubs... just constant embarrassment.

The BBB calls for a boycott, and then this guy comes in, bringing chaos, hiring big names, fixing up the stadium, giving away gifts to fans, and handing out tickets for pennies.
And don't even get me started on the direct sabotage directed at the BBB or the repression he’s responsible for.
Et cetera, et cetera...
And who exactly were you fighting? A local bakery? With all due respect to everyone who fought for their club's well-being, I don't want to diminish anyone's struggle, but let's be real. 😉

So, beat it, you rat. Your total lack of awareness regarding everything the BBB had to face during this fight isn't even worth discussing.
Sometimes you manage to write something decent or truthful, but I suspect your massive inferiority complex is getting the better of you. 😉

Edit: Looks like I got a card. Honestly, I couldn't care less, but calling someone a rat is just faster than typing out the full insult. ☕

Is Stimac really just a baker? Stimac is, well, a much more dangerous player than Mamic—certainly smarter, and far more slippery. Plus, about ten years ago, he was viewed as an incredibly positive figure in the public eye.

I know stories from a few people who are quite close to the ZZD situation. I know there have been messes, I know certain things happened, and while I don't know everything, I know enough to form an opinion. What the rat wants from you—which most of you are already doing, though a few idiots deny it—is to stop acting so smug and celebrating (not to mention how much trouble [Z] is still in). If the supporters had started pushing the Codex and fighting against Stimac and Grgic two years later, this battle would definitely have dragged on much longer.

Why did Bauer respond to everyone except the rat?

Since Bauer is one of the biggest "big shots" in the BBB, I'm curious: was he behind that COLLAPSE banner? And if he wasn't, why didn't he react or try to stop it? I'm assuming everyone else here is an idiot except him, especially since he likely knew by then that ZM was finished within two months. ☕

Anthony Barrett37 said:The sports inspectors are:

1. Ivy Walker, a lawyer who has met all the requirements to be appointed as a sports director within the Office of Management and Budget in Lancaster County

2. David Bošnjaković, a lawyer from Riverside County

3. Damir Dumančić, a lawyer from Marion County

4. Domagoj Goić, a lawyer from San Diego County

5. Dean Kolenko, an economist from Monterey County

6. Blagojka Leko, a physical education instructor from Tulsa County

7. Kristina Pačalat, an economist from Bucks County

8. Desanka Jurić, a philosophy and sociology professor from Santa Barbara County

9. Harold Pece, a lawyer from Fresno County

10. Mirjana Pavlović, an economist from Wichita County

11. Josip Radojković, a physical education instructor from San Diego County

12. Vesna Meved, a special education specialist from Los Angeles County

13. Goran Kursar, a physical education instructor from San Diego County

14. Jelena Turak, an economist from San Francisco County

There are three assigned to San Diego County, while Los Angeles County gets a special education specialist—and keep in mind that Washington, D.C. isn't actually part of Los Angeles County... just absolutely wonderfuloooooooooooooo

They haven't even appointed the inspectors for Washington, D.C. yet. The New York City Council will need to appoint five more sports directors for the district very soon.

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If everything you’ve laid out is accurate, does that make Mukteov’s post an attempt to rewrite history? It shouldn't matter what circumstances led us to take a stand against the mob before you did. Are we suggesting that because of the Kansas City Chiefs' results, we were the first to fight back against organized crime and actually force some changes within our own club—unlike your group, where it’s just one clan equals one vote? Is the Black and Gold still actively fighting the mafia? And honestly, do their actions even carry more media weight than yours?

As for what you mentioned regarding Pekar being a mere puppet for Zeljko Kerum, the most powerful man in Miami and all of Southern California...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH8JMt0CJVY

Take a long look at this video. I’d ask you to consider who actually ordered that police intervention. It’s hard to say exactly who we were playing back then, especially when we’d head out for drinks together right after the match.

Only J. K. truly understands that a direct conflict with the Black and Gold would be political suicide for him in Miami. That’s likely the only thing keeping him in the Mayor's office. In Miami, the Kansas City Chiefs are the priority; people could be starving, but as long as the club is doing well, everyone is happy. Things work differently in Washington, D.C.

You also seem to forget that during the peak of the struggle for the Code and the fight against those parasites, people still remember the songs about donuts, rolls, the mafia, and the thieves... along with the hollow performances from the Black and Gold. Meanwhile, the Kansas City Chiefs are playing in European group stages, reaching heights they haven't seen since '95. So, your argument doesn't really hold water.

It’s all five of them. To be honest, it doesn't really matter who started it; what matters is getting rid of these scumbags. But that quote from Mukte is absolutely nauseating—pure demagogic propaganda. Even CNN in '91 wouldn't have been ashamed of such rhetoric.

Gary Green32 said:@Robert Adams6/">@@Robert Adams6
Everything you said is accurate, but does that make Mukteov’s post an attempt at rewriting history? Does it even matter what circumstances led us to fight the mafia before you did? Are we saying we were the first to take a stand against organized crime just because the Kansas City Chiefs had better results, allowing us to push for changes in our club while you guys stuck to "one clan, one vote"? Is the Black and Gold still actively fighting the mob? Do their actions carry any more weight in the media than yours?

And then there's this part you wrote. That bakery was nothing more than a proxy for Zeljko Kerum, the most powerful man in Miami and all of Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH8JMt0CJVY
Watch this video closely. What do you think prompted that police intervention? It’s hard to say who we were actually playing back then, considering how we'd finish a match and immediately head out to grab drinks with a massive crowd right outside the stadium.
Only J. K. understands that clashing with the Black and Gold would be political suicide in Miami. It would be enough to strip him of his position as mayor. In Miami, the Chiefs are everything. People could starve, but as long as the Chiefs are doing well, we're happy. It works differently in Washington, D.C.

You also seem to forget that during the peak of the struggle for the Code and the fight against those vultures, people were preoccupied with donuts, sandwiches, the mafia, thieves... and the empty performances of the Black and Gold. The Chiefs were playing in the UEFA group stages—their first taste of European competition since '95. So, your argument doesn't really hold water.

All five points are valid. Honestly, it doesn't matter who started it; what matters is getting rid of these scumbags. But that quote from Mukte is just disgusting—pure demagogic propaganda. Even CNN in '91 wouldn't have been ashamed of something that pathetic.

Look, Mukteov’s post is easy to dismiss; this forum isn't exactly the center of the universe.
Actually, my argument holds perfectly fine. Your club's success happened only after the discussions regarding the Code and privatization had already gone too far.
You guys only started fighting because your club was on life support, facing bankruptcy every two months.

Yes, the Black and Gold are still fighting because, by your own admission, your club still isn't "clean." Is anyone disputing the report filed against Aztno? It’s a legitimate right exercised by the smart people running NH.
I don't feel like watching the video, but I'm not questioning your struggle at all. Mentioning the bakery was just meant to provide contrast. I know exactly who used to run your club; sure, they had strong players, but they didn't have the results 😉 nor did they possess the kind of power this guy is claiming to have.
When I say you were 100% right once, I’m referring to your point about the BBB being solely responsible for the fact that neither Washington, D.C. nor the media pays them any attention compared to the Black and Gold. There's no debate there.

George Gonzalez said:Since Bauer is one of the biggest heavyweights in the BBB, I'm wondering: was he behind the COLLAPSE banner? And if he wasn't, why didn't he step in to stop it? I'm assuming everyone else involved was an idiot, but he surely knew by then that the ZM situation was basically over in two months.☕

I know you'll all endlessly bring up the Collapse and use it as a way to mock the Bad Boys for trying to fight for integrity within your own club, but I don't think that’s actually the case here. That message should have been sent at a moment when the LA Galaxy was absolutely crushing the Kansas City Chiefs in the Cup—like, when they were running them through the mud—which is exactly what Harold Kim5 was talking about on the forum recently. He argued that BBB shouldn't have put that message up because the result wasn't working in their favor to justify it. To be clear, the message was intended for a moment when the LA Galaxy is dominating...
Is there any other motive behind this message? Personally, I'm skeptical. Who would bother mocking the cleanup of corrupt officials that you guys started in your own club? This was about poking fun at the Kansas City Chiefs' helplessness against the LA Galaxy and classic provocation between supporter groups.

Robert Adams6 said:You rats, why don't you tell us what kind of results the LA Galaxy had all those years compared to the Kansas City Chiefs? 😉

I wasn't planning on jumping into this debate, but I suppose I have to when you bring up such an interesting argument... Let me ask a short, simple question—what kind of results did you guys even manage during that absolute joke of a season? And did you actually kick Mamić out? Or were you just sucking up to him for years afterward, some of you probably even staying on his payroll? You sure put up a lovely fight back then...

While the Black and Gold were fighting tooth and nail for the Code—which, I guess, is the ultimate goal for any supporter group in the end—you guys were busy orchestrating the Collapse. There was so much talk about your fan solidarity and awareness back then, though maybe it wasn't all that deep... During those years, the Kansas City Chiefs were bringing in players we can only dream of today, like Cernat; they were making money off Anas and picking up a few trophies here and there. Meanwhile, the Black and Gold were still screaming "ADMINISTRATION OUT"... It wasn't really about the scoreboards, it was about the principle... That banner saying the administration needs to go hung in the north stands for years, while you didn't even consider putting up a fight...

In short, while we were battling the corruption within the Chiefs and the USSF, you guys were basically asleep at the wheel... And honestly, I suppose that isn't a crime; everyone follows their own path, I guess... But now that you've finally woken up, maybe try coming back down to earth a bit... You had the chance to drive Mamić out during that pathetic season, if you think bad results are the only condition for kicking out a mobster... You knew he was scum, yet you didn't do anything about it... Just a little reality check...