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ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#201 ·
Pure genius!!!! This is exactly why I’m obsessed with Formula E

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If you don't see how beautiful this is, you aren't even watching motorsports—honestly, you'd be better off just watching football.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#202 ·
graniteharbor502 said:I simply cannot shake this feeling, can I? I find myself still rooting for Nick Prost, even though it has become painfully obvious to anyone watching that he lacks the sheer talent possessed by his father.🙂

Nico Rosberg isn't even that bad—it's more about how good Sebastian Buemi actually is.

Sebastian Buemi is a top-tier driver—Red Bull seriously messed up when they let him go.
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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#203 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Pure genius!!!! This is exactly why I’m obsessed with Formula E

image

If you don't see how beautiful this is, you aren't even watching motorsports—honestly, you'd be better off just watching football.

Since Trulli's team didn't compete, there simply isn't any data available.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/autosport...mula-e-opener/

It’s just pure logic. It’s not actually that crazy. Don't be so dramatic.
But Formula E definitely has potential. We'll see how it plays out...

Come on, Jacques, stop daydreaming and get a grip. This is your last chance. Sure, Antonio Felix da Costa rattled you a bit, but hey, you've been around long enough to handle it.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#204 ·
fadedwalker18 said:Since Trulli's team didn't compete, there simply isn't any data available.

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/autosport...mula-e-opener/

It’s just pure logic. It’s not actually that crazy. Don't be so dramatic.
But Formula E definitely has potential. We'll see how it plays out...

Come on, Jacques, stop daydreaming and get a grip. This is your last chance. Sure, Antonio Felix da Costa rattled you a bit, but hey, you've been around long enough to handle it.

Once again—you clearly haven't grasped a thing. Typical. Your capacity for abstract thought is basically a zero—not even a digit, just a void.

The beauty of it is that Trulli can just do whatever he wants. Total freedom.

That’s why nobody knows what kind of engine or gearbox Trulli is running—because in Formula E, they actually have freedom. In Formula 1, you've got that total control freak running the show. That's the difference right there.
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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#205 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Once again—you clearly haven't grasped a thing. Typical. Your capacity for abstract thought is basically a zero—not even a digit, just a void.

The beauty of it is that Trulli can just do whatever he wants. Total freedom.

That’s why nobody knows what kind of engine or gearbox Trulli is running—because in Formula E, they actually have freedom. In Formula 1, you've got that total control freak running the show. That's the difference right there.

But you're just being stubborn.
I see what's happening here... you're just talking nonsense.
Jarno Trulli isn't just doing whatever he feels like; his team simply didn't show up, which is why there's no data on the engine or the transmission. Get it?
It’s nice to see you’re in such a romantic, nostalgic mood, though. 😁

🙏
Drew Bennett68 Drew Bennett68 Regular
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#206 ·
It’s just my luck, isn't it? I always seem to miss out on the Formula E action.🙂
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#207 ·
graniteharbor502 said:anybody got a link for the other Formula E race? I can't find the full thing on YouTube 🤷

this is what happens when you go begging for illegal links—you get so warped by your piracy habits that it doesn't even occur to you to just look for the official link

perfectly official, perfectly legal, and perfectly free links right here:

Formula E official channel where they stream absolutely every single race, qualifying session, and practice

and if you miss the live stream, you can always watch it later since they archive everything permanently

here’s the other race Indianapolis ePrix—eight and a half hours of perfectly official, perfectly legal, and perfectly free streaming covering all practices, qualifying, and the race itself
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#208 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:this is what happens when you go begging for illegal links—you get so warped by your piracy habits that it doesn't even occur to you to just look for the official link

perfectly official, perfectly legal, and perfectly free links right here:

Formula E official channel where they stream absolutely every single race, qualifying session, and practice

and if you miss the live stream, you can always watch it later since they archive everything permanently

here’s the other race Indianapolis ePrix—eight and a half hours of perfectly official, perfectly legal, and perfectly free streaming covering all practices, qualifying, and the race itself

thank you, ruggedhawk20, you are a true gentleman👍
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#209 ·
Good grief, I honestly believe Nico Rosberg manages to rack up more mistakes in a single weekend than his uncle did during his entire career 🤦
I find myself wondering, what on earth is happening with Trulli's team?
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#210 ·
graniteharbor502 said:Good grief, I honestly believe Nico Rosberg manages to rack up more mistakes in a single weekend than his uncle did during his entire career 🤦
I find myself wondering, what on earth is happening with Trulli's team?


Given he started racing so late and never even touched a kart, Nicholas is actually a killer driver

Anyway—last names are totally misleading. Here's how I see them:

Sebastian Buemi = Ayrton Senna
Nico Rosberg = Riccardo Patrese
Bruno Senna = Andrea de'Cesaris
Jacques Villeneuve = Carel Godin de Beaufort
Nelson Piquet = Niki Lauda
Sam Bird = Gerhard Berger
Lucas di Grassi = Nigel Mansell
Nick Heidfeld = Nick Heidfeld

I'll break it down properly this afternoon—too busy right now
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#211 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Given he started racing so late and never even touched a kart, Nicholas is actually a killer driver

Anyway—last names are totally misleading. Here's how I see them:

Sebastian Buemi = Ayrton Senna
Nico Rosberg = Riccardo Patrese
Bruno Senna = Andrea de'Cesaris
Jacques Villeneuve = Carel Godin de Beaufort
Nelson Piquet = Niki Lauda
Sam Bird = Gerhard Berger
Lucas di Grassi = Nigel Mansell
Nick Heidfeld = Nick Heidfeld

I'll break it down properly this afternoon—too busy right now

🤣
you are absolutely insane.
I am eagerly awaiting those explanations 🙏
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#212 ·
graniteharbor502 said:🤣
you are absolutely insane.
I am eagerly awaiting those explanations 🙏

Alright, let's go through this—but I'll be quick since I don't have much time.

(And please, move all this over to the Formula E thread, because this one is titled "blah blah blah and other high-octane sports," and there isn't a single drop of octane in Formula E—so we are totally off topic)


Sebastian Buemi = Ayrton Senna
The guy grabs pole positions like it's nothing. Just dominates. Unless some crazy outlier happens—like a breakdown or a wreck—he wins. As a driver, and just as a person, he feels like he belongs in that world. It’s like you can view the entire Formula E grid through him. He's basically the textbook definition of a dominant driver. Plus, he's charming and good-looking—just like Ayrton Senna.

Nico Rosberg = Riccardo Patrese
Fast enough and technical enough to hang near the front if he's got a solid car. But not quite fast or technical enough to actually sit at the top with a great car. Senna—sorry, Buemi—is going to eat him alive. Just like his teammates have eaten him up so far. But like Patrese, he'll just keep hanging on and on. Even though his teammates ate him alive too.

Ayrton Senna = Andrea de'Cesaris
Not fast enough, not consistent enough, and constantly crashing. But hey, the guy clings on season after season like a tick. He'll crash again, we'll see plenty of him, but he's never actually seeing a win.

Jacques Villeneuve = Carel Godin de Beaufort Nelson Piquet
Just drives for the hell of it and has a blast doing it. A one-man army against everyone else.

Nelson Piquet = Niki Lauda
Exactly like Lauda at the start of his career—questioned, dismissed, and made a laughingstock. But as the years roll by, Nelson Piquet is turning into an increasingly high-quality driver. That win in NASCAR - Nationwide at Road America was a masterpiece. He had a few more really, really solid performances in Camping World and Nationwide too. Then there's Rallycross, and now Formula E—where he's the world champion. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back in Formula 1. If Symmonds came back, why wouldn't Nelson Piquet?

bird = = Gerhard Berger and Lucas di Grassi
The polar opposite of Lauda. Those massive expectations at the start of his career turned into absolutely nothing. As time goes on, the driver just gets dimmer and dimmer.

Lucas di Grassi = Mansell
Compensates for a lack of talent with sheer willpower. Which occasionally results in a random win. With a decent car, he could even grab a title. We'll see plenty of di Grassi. There'll be plenty of drama.

Nick Heidfeld = Nick Heidfeld
That thick beard full of bugs has never seen a victory. Neither the beard nor the bugs. Won't either.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#213 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Alright, let's go through this—but I'll be quick since I don't have much time.

(And please, move all this over to the Formula E thread, because this one is titled "blah blah blah and other high-octane sports," and there isn't a single drop of octane in Formula E—so we are totally off topic)


Sebastian Buemi = Ayrton Senna
The guy grabs pole positions like it's nothing. Just dominates. Unless some crazy outlier happens—like a breakdown or a wreck—he wins. As a driver, and just as a person, he feels like he belongs in that world. It’s like you can view the entire Formula E grid through him. He's basically the textbook definition of a dominant driver. Plus, he's charming and good-looking—just like Ayrton Senna.

Nico Rosberg = Riccardo Patrese
Fast enough and technical enough to hang near the front if he's got a solid car. But not quite fast or technical enough to actually sit at the top with a great car. Senna—sorry, Buemi—is going to eat him alive. Just like his teammates have eaten him up so far. But like Patrese, he'll just keep hanging on and on. Even though his teammates ate him alive too.

Ayrton Senna = Andrea de'Cesaris
Not fast enough, not consistent enough, and constantly crashing. But hey, the guy clings on season after season like a tick. He'll crash again, we'll see plenty of him, but he's never actually seeing a win.

Jacques Villeneuve = Carel Godin de Beaufort Nelson Piquet
Just drives for the hell of it and has a blast doing it. A one-man army against everyone else.

Nelson Piquet = Niki Lauda
Exactly like Lauda at the start of his career—questioned, dismissed, and made a laughingstock. But as the years roll by, Nelson Piquet is turning into an increasingly high-quality driver. That win in NASCAR - Nationwide at Road America was a masterpiece. He had a few more really, really solid performances in Camping World and Nationwide too. Then there's Rallycross, and now Formula E—where he's the world champion. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back in Formula 1. If Symmonds came back, why wouldn't Nelson Piquet?

bird = = Gerhard Berger and Lucas di Grassi
The polar opposite of Lauda. Those massive expectations at the start of his career turned into absolutely nothing. As time goes on, the driver just gets dimmer and dimmer.

Lucas di Grassi = Mansell
Compensates for a lack of talent with sheer willpower. Which occasionally results in a random win. With a decent car, he could even grab a title. We'll see plenty of di Grassi. There'll be plenty of drama.

Nick Heidfeld = Nick Heidfeld
That thick beard full of bugs has never seen a victory. Neither the beard nor the bugs. Won't either.

If it weren't for you, one would almost have to invent you.🙏

And tell me, who would be Vergne? Jacques Laffite?

I have updated the opening post of this thread. Please, do take a look, and feel free to send me your suggestions or critiques via private message.
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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#214 ·
After just three races in Formula E, Jacques Villeneuve announced a mutual contract termination:

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/autosport...ve-at-venturi/
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#215 ·
I am not entirely certain if this news has reached your ears yet, but it appears that starting next season, the Formula E support program will include the Roborace series. We are talking about races featuring specially engineered vehicles that won't be piloted by drivers of flesh and blood, but rather by artificial intelligence. Does this imply that in the near future we might expect road vehicles governed by AI, potentially leading to a significant reduction in traffic accidents? Furthermore, one must wonder, can robot racing truly capture the imagination of dedicated motorsport enthusiasts?
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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#216 ·
graniteharbor502 said:I am not entirely certain if this news has reached your ears yet, but it appears that starting next season, the Formula E support program will include the Roborace series. We are talking about races featuring specially engineered vehicles that won't be piloted by drivers of flesh and blood, but rather by artificial intelligence. Does this imply that in the near future we might expect road vehicles governed by AI, potentially leading to a significant reduction in traffic accidents? Furthermore, one must wonder, can robot racing truly capture the imagination of dedicated motorsport enthusiasts?

I’ve heard whispers about this. Honestly, I’m still having a hard time wrapping my head around it.
What an absolute joke. Roborace!? Seriously, where is this world heading? How is this even going to end up? Just who exactly is asking for Roborace?? 🤦🤦
shadowhawk24 shadowhawk24 Active Member
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#217 ·
graniteharbor502 said:I am not entirely certain if this news has reached your ears yet, but it appears that starting next season, the Formula E support program will include the Roborace series. We are talking about races featuring specially engineered vehicles that won't be piloted by drivers of flesh and blood, but rather by artificial intelligence. Does this imply that in the near future we might expect road vehicles governed by AI, potentially leading to a significant reduction in traffic accidents? Furthermore, one must wonder, can robot racing truly capture the imagination of dedicated motorsport enthusiasts?

Look, most major global manufacturers are already deep into development, and some have even debuted autonomous systems. Based on current projections, this tech should be standard by the end of the decade. So, this move isn't exactly shocking. It's just another way to lure potential manufacturers into this whole electric circus.
Starting next season, Jaguar is stepping in as a constructor, replacing the Trullia team, which clearly failed to build a competitive car for this season. Interestingly, several parties showed interest in that spot, but Jaguar was ultimately chosen to fill the void.

While I'm here, I don't know how many of you are still following closely, but that last race was fantastic. Sebastien Buemi is putting on an incredible show, and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up replacing Palmer at some point this season if the latter fails to deliver anything meaningful.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#218 ·
graniteharbor502 said:I am not entirely certain if this news has reached your ears yet, but it appears that starting next season, the Formula E support program will include the Roborace series. We are talking about races featuring specially engineered vehicles that won't be piloted by drivers of flesh and blood, but rather by artificial intelligence. Does this imply that in the near future we might expect road vehicles governed by AI, potentially leading to a significant reduction in traffic accidents? Furthermore, one must wonder, can robot racing truly capture the imagination of dedicated motorsport enthusiasts?


You have a PC.
You have a smartphone.

How many times a day do they actually glitch on you? Even just a tiny, barely noticeable hiccup?
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#219 ·
fadedwalker18 said:I’ve heard whispers about this. Honestly, I’m still having a hard time wrapping my head around it.
What an absolute joke. Roborace!? Seriously, where is this world heading? How is this even going to end up? Just who exactly is asking for Roborace?? 🤦🤦

At first glance, one might find the entire concept somewhat absurd, wouldn't you agree? However, after spending some time digesting the feature in this week’s Autosport, my eyes have been truly opened to the possibilities. There is an undeniable array of advantages when you remove the presence of a living, breathing human being from inside the cockpit. Think about it: without a driver to protect, engineers could experiment with all sorts of radical battery chemistries or even deploy electromagnetic braking systems that—should they fail—would pose absolutely zero risk to a pilot. You could test wild, experimental tire compounds that would be far too volatile for a person to handle. Furthermore, imagine if Formula 1 were no longer burdened by the crushing weight of constant research and development; what if that immense technical load were instead shifted onto the shoulders of Formula Race and similar autonomous racing series? How much would costs plummet, and how much more stable could the regulations become? We might see a future where all those exhausting software headaches are offloaded entirely to the machine racers, finally allowing drivers to focus their attention back on the pure, mechanical nuances of car setup.

shadowhawk24 said:Look, most major global manufacturers are already deep into development, and some have even debuted autonomous systems. Based on current projections, this tech should be standard by the end of the decade. So, this move isn't exactly shocking. It's just another way to lure potential manufacturers into this whole electric circus.
Starting next season, Jaguar is stepping in as a constructor, replacing the Trullia team, which clearly failed to build a competitive car for this season. Interestingly, several parties showed interest in that spot, but Jaguar was ultimately chosen to fill the void.

While I'm here, I don't know how many of you are still following closely, but that last race was fantastic. Sebastien Buemi is putting on an incredible show, and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up replacing Palmer at some point this season if the latter fails to deliver anything meaningful.

I must wonder, though, if you were even aware that you had managed to secure a victory? Is it possible that we are looking through a telescope at 2015 through a lens that is slightly out of focus? When one contemplates the landscape of the Formula Race back then, does it not feel like a completely different era altogether? One finds oneself wondering if the technical complexities we see today could have even been imagined during that particular season. It makes me ponder whether our perception of those races is colored by a certain nostalgia, or if we are simply misremembering the sheer intensity of the competition. Is it not strange how time shifts our perspective on what was once considered cutting-edge? 🙏
As for Sebastien Buemi, I find myself feeling significantly more convinced by his performance than that of Nica prost, much to my own personal disappointment. It seems to me that he possesses a certain level of competence that simply isn't there with the other, though one cannot help but wonder what might have happened had he not completely bungled those final qualifying sessions? If he hadn't made such a mess of things at that critical juncture, wouldn't he have walked away with the victory?

Jason Campbell70 said:You have a PC.
You have a smartphone.

How many times a day do they actually glitch on you? Even just a tiny, barely noticeable hiccup?

It strikes me as increasingly profound how much of our daily existence is quietly governed by software and hardware—systems that exert influence over our lives in ways we rarely pause to acknowledge. We have already crossed the threshold where autopilot systems navigate our highways and sophisticated robotics assist surgeons during delicate medical procedures. Of course, glitches and systemic hiccups are an inevitable part of such rapid advancement, though one can only hope that robust fail-safe mechanisms are sufficiently integrated to prevent catastrophe. If we look toward the distant horizon, perhaps a century from now, it seems almost certain that the concept of a human being manually piloting an automobile or an aircraft will be viewed as a quaint, archaic relic of the past. However, my curiosity is directed more toward the immediate horizon: is it truly plausible that we might see such a fundamental shift in control within just the next ten years?
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#220 ·
Honestly, looking back, twenty years ago we couldn't even dream of having touchscreens on tiny cell phones, let alone massive flat-screen TVs. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if people twenty years ago—or even longer—thought the idea of a self-driving car was total science fiction...

The real bottleneck isn't the tech itself; it’s just the money and the batteries. If we could just engineer a battery that's lightweight, charges in minutes, lasts forever, and doesn't cost as much as the entire US federal budget, we’d probably be driving autonomous cars right now...

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