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fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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#221 ·
graniteharbor502 said:At first glance, one might find the entire concept somewhat absurd, wouldn't you agree? However, after spending some time digesting the feature in this week’s Autosport, my eyes have been truly opened to the possibilities. There is an undeniable array of advantages when you remove the presence of a living, breathing human being from inside the cockpit. Think about it: without a driver to protect, engineers could experiment with all sorts of radical battery chemistries or even deploy electromagnetic braking systems that—should they fail—would pose absolutely zero risk to a pilot. You could test wild, experimental tire compounds that would be far too volatile for a person to handle. Furthermore, imagine if Formula 1 were no longer burdened by the crushing weight of constant research and development; what if that immense technical load were instead shifted onto the shoulders of Formula Race and similar autonomous racing series? How much would costs plummet, and how much more stable could the regulations become? We might see a future where all those exhausting software headaches are offloaded entirely to the machine racers, finally allowing drivers to focus their attention back on the pure, mechanical nuances of car setup.

I must wonder, though, if you were even aware that you had managed to secure a victory? Is it possible that we are looking through a telescope at 2015 through a lens that is slightly out of focus? When one contemplates the landscape of the Formula Race back then, does it not feel like a completely different era altogether? One finds oneself wondering if the technical complexities we see today could have even been imagined during that particular season. It makes me ponder whether our perception of those races is colored by a certain nostalgia, or if we are simply misremembering the sheer intensity of the competition. Is it not strange how time shifts our perspective on what was once considered cutting-edge? 🙏
As for Sebastien Buemi, I find myself feeling significantly more convinced by his performance than that of Nica prost, much to my own personal disappointment. It seems to me that he possesses a certain level of competence that simply isn't there with the other, though one cannot help but wonder what might have happened had he not completely bungled those final qualifying sessions? If he hadn't made such a mess of things at that critical juncture, wouldn't he have walked away with the victory?

It strikes me as increasingly profound how much of our daily existence is quietly governed by software and hardware—systems that exert influence over our lives in ways we rarely pause to acknowledge. We have already crossed the threshold where autopilot systems navigate our highways and sophisticated robotics assist surgeons during delicate medical procedures. Of course, glitches and systemic hiccups are an inevitable part of such rapid advancement, though one can only hope that robust fail-safe mechanisms are sufficiently integrated to prevent catastrophe. If we look toward the distant horizon, perhaps a century from now, it seems almost certain that the concept of a human being manually piloting an automobile or an aircraft will be viewed as a quaint, archaic relic of the past. However, my curiosity is directed more toward the immediate horizon: is it truly plausible that we might see such a fundamental shift in control within just the next ten years?

I know people will meet this with a massive dose of skepticism, but humanity doesn't actually need Robo races.
Sure, they might have a use for testing purposes.
But whenever someone tries to explain or justify why we should move toward Robo races... it feels like they're eventually trying to sell us on the idea that we don't even need real human drivers—those heroes made of flesh and blood. It follows a certain logic: "Everything is too dangerous for humans, so let's just ban human racing altogether and watch robots instead." 😵😵

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ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#222 ·
live from Mexico — race just kicked off

ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#223 ·
Holy crap—Buemi is hands down the greatest talent of the 21st century!
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#224 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Holy crap—Buemi is hands down the greatest talent of the 21st century!

To squander such a magnificent opportunity for victory...🤦
it was an absolute disaster in Mexico. Between those qualifying errors and the mistakes made during the race itself, one has to wonder what went wrong.👎
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#225 ·
graniteharbor502 said:To squander such a magnificent opportunity for victory...🤦
it was an absolute disaster in Mexico. Between those qualifying errors and the mistakes made during the race itself, one has to wonder what went wrong.👎

it's obvious they don't know how to actually race.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#226 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:it's obvious they don't know how to actually race.

Perhaps that is true. But as for Sebastien Buemi, his entire approach is simply...
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#227 ·
Is it actually worth sitting down to watch the season finale at Battersea? 🙏

Race 9 (July 2, 2016)
Race 10 (July 3, 2016) THE GRAND FINALE

There is truly everything you could ask for here—intense drama, massive shifts in momentum, and quite a few fascinating echoes of past Formula 1 moments...

You will certainly discover the reason why this particular driver ends up in tears by the end of it all.
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ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#228 ·
ruggedhawk20 said:Nico Rosberg isn't even that bad—it's more about how good Sebastian Buemi actually is.

Sebastian Buemi is a top-tier driver—Red Bull seriously messed up when they let him go.


ruggedhawk20 said:Alright, let's go through this—but I'll be quick since I don't have much time.

(And please, move all this over to the Formula E thread, because this one is titled "blah blah blah and other high-octane sports," and there isn't a single drop of octane in Formula E—so we are totally off topic)


Sebastian Buemi = Ayrton Senna
The guy grabs pole positions like it's nothing. Just dominates. Unless some crazy outlier happens—like a breakdown or a wreck—he wins. As a driver, and just as a person, he feels like he belongs in that world. It’s like you can view the entire Formula E grid through him. He's basically the textbook definition of a dominant driver. Plus, he's charming and good-looking—just like Ayrton Senna.

Nico Rosberg = Riccardo Patrese
Fast enough and technical enough to hang near the front if he's got a solid car. But not quite fast or technical enough to actually sit at the top with a great car. Senna—sorry, Buemi—is going to eat him alive. Just like his teammates have eaten him up so far. But like Patrese, he'll just keep hanging on and on. Even though his teammates ate him alive too.

Ayrton Senna = Andrea de'Cesaris
Not fast enough, not consistent enough, and constantly crashing. But hey, the guy clings on season after season like a tick. He'll crash again, we'll see plenty of him, but he's never actually seeing a win.

Jacques Villeneuve = Carel Godin de Beaufort Nelson Piquet
Just drives for the hell of it and has a blast doing it. A one-man army against everyone else.

Nelson Piquet = Niki Lauda
Exactly like Lauda at the start of his career—questioned, dismissed, and made a laughingstock. But as the years roll by, Nelson Piquet is turning into an increasingly high-quality driver. That win in NASCAR - Nationwide at Road America was a masterpiece. He had a few more really, really solid performances in Camping World and Nationwide too. Then there's Rallycross, and now Formula E—where he's the world champion. Wouldn't surprise me to see him back in Formula 1. If Symmonds came back, why wouldn't Nelson Piquet?

bird = = Gerhard Berger and Lucas di Grassi
The polar opposite of Lauda. Those massive expectations at the start of his career turned into absolutely nothing. As time goes on, the driver just gets dimmer and dimmer.

Lucas di Grassi = Mansell
Compensates for a lack of talent with sheer willpower. Which occasionally results in a random win. With a decent car, he could even grab a title. We'll see plenty of di Grassi. There'll be plenty of drama.

Nick Heidfeld = Nick Heidfeld
That thick beard full of bugs has never seen a victory. Neither the beard nor the bugs. Won't either.

I've said my piece.
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#229 ·
Just finished watching both races from New York City in peace, and honestly—I’ve only got one thing to say about it.

Formula E is peak motorsport right now. Hands down. Best drivers, top-tier teams, absolute spectacle. But man, even Formula E isn't perfect. It’s just missing one tiny little thing—gasoline!
shadowhawk24 shadowhawk24 Active Member
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#230 ·
Formula E is actually turning out to be quite good. For the second year running, the championship comes down to the final race, with the standings often separated by just a handful of points. There’s talk of expanding the calendar next season, potentially bumping us up to 14 races based on what they're announcing.
Jaguar is entering the fray, and naturally, we're seeing some major movement in the driver lineup too. The current two-time—and soon-to-be three-time—World Touring Car Championship champion José María López is logically heading to DS Virgin Racing to take over for Vergnaud.
It takes a minute to wrap your head around this whole electric concept, but once you get used to it, there's plenty of entertainment to be had watching these things run on juice.

As for Sébastien Buemi, he might just land another shot in Formula 1. I wouldn't be surprised if Alain Prost gives him a little nudge to replace one of the Kevin Magnussen duo next season.
mellowtiger83 mellowtiger83 Regular
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#231 ·
Sébastien Buemi? Who exactly are we talking about?
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#232 ·
Spark Racing Technology is set to become the chassis supplier for all teams starting in the fifth season of the championship back in 2018. One cannot help but wonder what such a transition might mean for the competitive balance of the field, but if we look at the design, this is how the new chassis is intended to appear:
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darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#233 ·
It’s way too futuristic for my taste, I’m just not feeling it.
Joseph Edwards86 Joseph Edwards86 Member
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#234 ·
Did anyone catch that last race in Mexico?
I guess Lucas di Grassi’s strategy was just way too risky, which made things pretty intense! Like, maybe if you look at D'Ambrozio, he went with the exact same plan and it totally didn't work out for him.
graniteharbor502 graniteharbor502 Regular
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#235 ·
Lucas di Grassi really didn't deserve this win, yet he walked away with it 🙄
It was quite a strange turn of events, wasn't it? Following a rather lackluster qualifying session and that unfortunate collision during the race, his team managed to pull off a brilliant strategic masterstroke to hand him the victory. Even d'Ambrosio played a part, I suppose, by holding up the rest of the field just enough to ensure a relatively smooth run for him.
If you ask me, this was a terribly dull race for Formula E 👎
You had some drivers stuck in this heavy mode where they were just lifting and coasting constantly, while the pack behind them simply couldn't find any way to overtake them. 🤦
ruggedhawk20 ruggedhawk20 Regular
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#236 ·
Sebastien Buemi totally lost his mind

darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 VeteranOP
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#237 ·
Wait, is Smith actually broadcasting on ESPN? 😁
northerncobra31 northerncobra31 Active Member
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#238 ·
He’s a great guy, at least he’s actually likable compared to the current crop of "commentators."

It just makes me think back to DSR and James Button.
Jonathan Kim7 Jonathan Kim7 Newcomer
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#239 ·
northerncobra31 said:He’s a great guy, at least he’s actually likable compared to the current crop of "commentators."

It just makes me think back to DSR and James Button.


He switched over to the American broadcast immediately; clearly, he hadn't even watched the race yet.
Ashley Ramirez4 Ashley Ramirez4 Active Member
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#240 ·
I mean, he’s been there forever. He’s been broadcasting every single endurance race since they first started airing them in English.

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