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placidbear10 placidbear10 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Aug 2011
#2961 ·
Chloe Flores95 said:Dear placidbear10, I haven't checked my blood work yet, but I'll be facing that next week too... I hear people drink Endovita syrup when they go into chemo. For now, I'm just boosting my dad up with those Biota juices you can find at DM—specifically the one with beet, carrot, potato, and celery.

My dad was also drinking Brezov juice. We used to make it ourselves back in 2002 when Mom was battling breast cancer. I actually picked some up at DM just yesterday. I just got back from the oncologist; for now, he’s off therapy for one more week, though he is still taking Decortina, before moving on to Estracyt. I really have a feeling this doctor is fantastic (which is quite a change from that first oncologist we saw; that's a whole other story for a private conversation, and I don't want to sound like I'm badmouthing anyone—people often jump to blame doctors when things go wrong, but that isn't the case here. It’s just a rational question of why, if the blood work looks good and the metastases are receding, a patient is taken off therapy when people abroad continue receiving it for years... maybe the answer is money, or issues with Social Security or the Ministry of Health... but honestly, I wouldn't care about that part, I'd gladly pay those $267 a month myself if that were the issue, just please give me some indication or let me know!). Since Dad was vomiting yesterday and hasn't been able to eat anything (he's struggling even to take Torecan because Reglan isn't doing much, and while he'd prefer to take as few pills as possible, which is understandable, sometimes you just have to make things easier; it might even be kidney stones rather than the therapy, but we'll see next week), I went to discuss the future treatment plan, and I truly walked away with a positive impression. I asked her questions, I talked it through with her... and I finally felt like I was dealing with a real, decent human being in a white coat. So, for the moment, everything seems okay; she mentioned she'll review all his previous results and study them thoroughly. I have a very good feeling about her.
Let me know how your dad is doing; what kind of therapy is he on, and has he had any side effects?
silvercanyon7 silvercanyon7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2010
#2962 ·
Dear friends, I read this thread regularly, but often I find myself at a loss for words. I worry about saying the wrong thing because I can only imagine the battles you are fighting every single day. Please know that you are constantly in my thoughts, and I am sending every ounce of strength and positivity your way. Stay strong.

Our family has walked the path of cancer and intensive treatment—chemotherapy and everything that follows. Life was hanging by a thread, but now—knock on wood—things are looking great, and I truly hope they stay that way.
It has been nearly three years since day one of our fight, marked by endless days of struggle, constant worry, and everything else that comes with it.

I don't know if anyone here has heard of it, but we actually sourced some Elixir from the dedicated nurses in Nov Topola. During that time, we were traveling through Canada, going wherever we heard there might be a glimmer of hope. We even received a recommendation from a doctor, and of course, we listened. When blood counts are too low, chemotherapy simply cannot proceed. That is exactly what happened: our doctor gave us this advice with only three days left before the next session, and the blood work looked absolutely TERRIBLE.
We picked up the Elixir that very same day (one bottle, roughly 1 liter, cost 31 miles dollars) and started using it immediately.
Just two days later, the blood counts normalized, and the chemotherapy could proceed right on schedule.

I have no intention of offering false hope. I only want to share our experience. If this helps even one of you, then sharing it was worth it.
placidbear10 placidbear10 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Aug 2011
#2963 ·
I’ve been doing some reading lately on the latest treatment options for metastatic prostate cancer, and honestly, looking at the price tags here in the States—though I suspect they aren't much different anywhere else—is pretty eye-opening:
- A monthly dose of Jevtana runs about $19,200, which adds up to a staggering $48,000 total over a cycle.
- Then there's Provenge, which costs $93,000 a month, though you only get three doses over a single month and then you're done, unlike the usual ongoing chemotherapy rounds.

So, let's put this to a vote—even if the cost of these drugs were to drop by, say, 50% down the road, how much time would it actually take for them to be added to any official drug formulary in America?
(Or more realistically, will the planet even still be spinning by the time that happens?)
Kate Brooks2 Kate Brooks2 Active Member
74 messages
joined Aug 2011
#2964 ·
We throw everything and anything at the problem, and every single time we manage to overhaul their blood counts and bring them back toward perfection, even if the levels inevitably crash once the therapy concludes.
We have implemented a strict regimen involving two glasses of beet, carrot, apple, and lemon juice daily, supplemented by nettle tea, propolis, beta-glucan, nutritional yeast, flaxseed oil, hemp seed, flaxseeds, quail eggs, and various other small additions... but the most critical factor is that we have completely overhauled the entire diet and refuse to deviate from it even by a millimeter. We lean heavily on spinach, broccoli, and other leafy greens paired with fish, veal, and various organ meats—pork liver being the absolute best. For the most part, everything is boiled or sautéed in olive oil. As far as bread goes, we exclusively use homemade varieties made from buckwheat or barley flour. We have also significantly cut back on dairy, opting only for fresh, unpasteurized milk or yogurt. We are constantly preparing vegetable soups and incorporating plenty of fruit; specifically, they eat at least one citrus fruit every day—orange, lemon, grapefruit, or tangerine—because the body supposedly absorbs iron much more efficiently when combined with Vitamin C. I am curious to hear your thoughts on this approach, but for us, this method consistently succeeds in driving blood levels up to an excellent range. Best regards.
velvetgull9 velvetgull9 Active Member
113 messages
joined Dec 2005
#2965 ·
Hey ladies,

By some crazy stroke of luck, I’ve been getting super deep into everything about nutrition during chemo lately, and I picked up a few things that seem really important:

1. Taking extra vitamins in supplement form might actually mess with how the meds work. Basically, the drugs hunt down cells with damaged DNA to attack them, but vitamins A, C, and E can "patch up" that DNA, which I guess could stop the drugs from doing their job properly.

2. If you're dealing with neutropenia (when those neutrophil levels drop low), you should probably skip the dairy stuff like yogurt and stick strictly to cooked foods.

3. Most importantly: drink tons of fluids and rinse your mouth out with sage tea maybe 10-15 times a day. It helps clear out dead cells and hopefully keeps gum issues from starting.

The oncology center in Ljubljana has a ton of great resources online ( so maybe that'll be helpful for someone!
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2966 ·
placidbear10 said:I’m currently digging into the latest treatment options for metastatic prostate cancer. The price tag—here in the States (though let's be real, it's probably similar everywhere else)—is eye-watering:
- One monthly dose of Xtandi runs about $19,200, which adds up to roughly $48,000 total per course.
- Provenge hits you with $93,000 a month, though that’s a one-time deal involving three doses rather than a continuous chemo regimen.

Let's play a game of prediction: even if the cost of these drugs eventually drops by, say, 50%, how long will it actually take for them to be added to any insurance formulary here in America?
(Or more accurately, will the planet even still be spinning by the time that happens?)

That all hinges on whatever pharmaceutical giant manufactures the drug. They’re the ones calling the shots on which countries make sense for them to tackle the registration process in. Getting a drug registered is an agonizingly slow and incredibly expensive ordeal, and that registration is the mandatory first step before anything gets added to the Social Security Administration's coverage lists.
In this country, you can technically access these treatments if a doctor believes they'll work, submits them to a hospital review board, and gets the green light. In that scenario, it's treated as an emergency import, and the hospital picks up the entire tab. That’s the theory, anyway. In practice? It almost never works because the burden falls squarely on the doctor, many of whom won't even dream of putting something like that before a board. Beyond that specific loophole, there is virtually no other way to get these types of treatments covered in the US.
placidbear10 placidbear10 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Aug 2011
#2967 ·
velvetgull9 Asks:
Hey everyone, hope you're all doing well.

Lately, I’ve found myself diving incredibly deep into everything there is to know about nutrition while going through chemotherapy, and honestly, the more I learn, the more I realize how much those little details actually matter. It turns out that what you put in your body during this time isn't just about staying full; it's about managing side effects and helping your system stay resilient, and I've picked up a few crucial insights along the way that I think are worth sharing.

Taking extra vitamins in their synthetic, "chemical" form might actually do more harm than good when you're undergoing treatment. You see, these medications are specifically designed to hunt down cells with damaged DNA to do their job, but when you flood your system with high doses of Vitamins A, C, and E, they essentially step in to "patch up" that DNA, which can end up sabotaging the drugs and making them far less effective.

When you find yourself dealing with neutropenia—that's when your neutrophil levels drop down too low—you really have to be careful about what you're putting in your body. You should steer clear of anything dairy-based, like yogurt, and stick strictly to cooked foods to stay safe.

The most important thing to remember here is to stay incredibly hydrated and make sure you're rinsing your mouth out with sage tea about 10 to 15 times throughout the day, just to clear away as many dead cells as possible and stop any issues from developing in your gums.

The oncology institute in Ljubljana has a massive amount of research and literature available online, which is actually quite helpful if you're looking for deep dives. maybe someone else might find this helpful.

That’s exactly right, and honestly, it isn't very smart or even particularly useful to go around popping all sorts of different vitamins and minerals in pill form. While sticking to a healthy diet is obviously great, taking things like antioxidants while you're undergoing radiation can actually be counterproductive because they end up protecting the cells you're actually trying to target, which prevents the radiotherapy from doing its job properly. Afterwards It sounds like finishing radiation therapy is a solid milestone to reach, and honestly, that’s exactly what the oncologist at the Tumor Clinic in NYC told us as well. My mom went through a lot back in 2002 when she was diagnosed with breast cancer, followed by thyroid cancer in 2003, which meant navigating surgery, chemo, radiation, Tamoxifen, and then Arimidex. On top of that, my aunt dealt with breast cancer about twenty years ago, going through the whole gauntlet of surgery, chemo, and radiation, only to face it again a few years back in her other breast—meaning another round of surgery, chemo, and radiation. Because of all this, focusing on healthy eating and maintaining a specific diet during chemo and radiation has been a way of life for our family for over two decades now. At this point, I feel like if I just stand in the kitchen long enough, a healthy meal might practically grow right out of the floorboards. 🙂
My biggest struggle right now is that my dad is incredibly stubborn, and he just refuses to listen to any advice I give him. Ever since he switched over to his new chemotherapy regimen, he’s been feeling absolutely miserable. He already dealt with chronically dry mucous membranes, but now, between the Docetaxel, Estramustine, Zomet, and Decortin, everything has gone from bad to worse. He constantly feels this sensation like there's something stuck in his throat, which makes swallowing anything a total chore, and it actually hurts when he tries to eat. He went through similar issues—actually, they were even more intense—right when he first started the Docetaxel. His oncologist prescribed some Tantum spray, but it didn't provide much relief at all. He tried gargling with a mixture of water and baking soda, but he couldn't stand the taste of salt, so he eventually stopped doing that too. Then there are the candies; I've been trying to find various throat lozenges or herbal drops to help. I usually pick up these specific soothing lozenges at Muller that are packed with botanical extracts because, unfortunately, the selection in our local grocery stores is pretty pathetic. They have some basic stuff at CVS, but nothing works for him except for options that aren't just overwhelming menthol. Honestly, his main issue now is with liquids; anything thin, like water, light juices, tea, or milk, seems to trigger his discomfort.
I was just reading up on how people dealing with dysphagia—which is the official medical term for swallowing difficulties—actually find it much easier to drink or eat thicker, pureed juices and foods. It turns out that thin liquids like watery soups or clear juices are usually way harder for them to swallow, and seeing him struggle with those lighter textures really confirmed that this is exactly what he's going through.
Marshmallow tea and a bit of honey can really go a long way when you're looking to protect your mucous membranes, since they work together to create that soothing, protective layer of mucus.
Henry Sanders3 Henry Sanders3 Member
20 messages
joined Oct 2006
#2968 ·
Blood work was looking pretty rough here on Monday too, but we finally kicked off the chemo... Now the nausea has officially set in, and he’s barely eating anything. At least he’s staying hydrated with water and some nettle tea, and we've been gargling sage to help... but man... how am I supposed to talk him into eating when the nausea is this bad? I want him drinking beet juice or whatever else might help... right now he's just taking his Beta glucan and that's about it....
Kate Brooks2 Kate Brooks2 Active Member
74 messages
joined Aug 2011
#2969 ·
We are currently approaching the end of the sixth chemotherapy cycle. Following the third round, they ran all the necessary tests, including CT scans and everything else, and we’ll be doing the exact same thing once this sixth cycle wraps up. After those first three treatments, the results were nothing short of fantastic—the tumor actually shrank by about 3cm. While the blood work always takes a hit immediately following a cycle, we consistently manage to get it back on track and essentially perfect before the next round begins.
I am genuinely curious about how many cycles one can actually undergo. Perhaps that sounds like a foolish question, but I truly have no idea how this entire process is supposed to unfold moving forward. Our patient feels incredible; he isn't experiencing any symptoms whatsoever, which honestly seems to catch even the doctors off guard sometimes. His treatment lasts five days, and during that time, he doesn't experience a single moment of weakness, loss of appetite, or nausea.
I really have to commend his discipline; his commitment to his diet is absolutely remarkable. We visit him constantly during those five days he spends at the hospital receiving therapy, and we see so many other patients there, yet not a single one of them follows their regimen even half as strictly as he does. Maybe that level of discipline is what keeps him strong or helps maintain his blood counts... I honestly don't know. If anyone out there can shed some light on how this path continues and just how far these treatments can be pushed, I would be deeply grateful. Thank you so much.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2970 ·
Kate Brooks2 said:Please, if anyone can answer me, how far can we actually push things with these treatments? How much further can we go? Thank you so much.

That’s entirely down to the individual. Generally speaking, you follow the protocol and watch for a response. A "response" means the disease is improving or, at the very least, staying stable instead of getting worse. You keep going as long as there are viable options available and the condition hasn't hit remission. When that happens—or if it ever does—is impossible to predict. For many people, life becomes a cycle of moving from one treatment to the next, or from one clinical trial to another, for years on end. It just becomes part of your existence, much like how dialysis becomes a way of life for someone whose kidneys have quit on them.
Kate Brooks2 Kate Brooks2 Active Member
74 messages
joined Aug 2011
#2971 ·
Angela Wright said:It’s an incredibly individual process, frankly. Generally speaking, you follow the protocol and then wait to see if there’s any kind of response. A "response" is defined as either an improvement or at least a stabilization where the disease stops progressing. You keep pushing through treatments as long as viable options exist and the condition hasn't entered remission. Predicting when that happens, or how long the fight lasts, is nearly impossible. For many, life becomes a cycle of moving from one therapy to the next, or from one clinical trial to another, stretching out over years. It eventually just becomes a permanent fixture of your existence, much like how dialysis becomes a way of life for people whose kidneys have failed.

That’s exactly what I was anticipating, but I simply wanted someone with actual experience and a deeper understanding to confirm it for me. Thank you so much for such a quick reply.
fadedtrucker5 fadedtrucker5 Active Member
80 messages
joined Feb 2011
#2972 ·
Hey everyone, just checking in for a second. I’m doing alright, I guess. They switched up my chemo because I ended up having an allergic reaction to Temodal. I just finished the first of six cycles with this new regimen; it’s pretty intense, and each cycle drags on for about six weeks. The nausea is there, and my blood counts tend to drop, but nothing I can't handle, I suppose.

Anyway, I wanted to let you know I'm feeling okay and that I think of you all constantly. I haven't been posting much since things have been relatively stable. My next scan is coming up in January—it'll be one year since the surgery—so I'm just hoping everything turns out fine again. 😍

If you're fighting an illness, don't give up. And if someone you love is sick, please show them some compassion. That’s really all anyone needs when they're hurting—to feel loved when they can't even find any love for themselves.

Big hugs to everyone. 🙂
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#2973 ·
I was actually just thinking about you the other day, wondering how you were holding up. I see you're staying positive as always. 😍 🙂

I’ve always had a soft spot for people like this—when things are at their absolute worst, instead of letting it drag them down, they end up lifting everyone else up with sheer courage and optimism. Hang in there. 😘
fadedtrucker5 fadedtrucker5 Active Member
80 messages
joined Feb 2011
#2974 ·
melloworca6 said:Oh, I was just thinking about you the other day and wondering if you were okay. I see you're staying positive as always. 😍 🙂

I really admire people like that—when things are at their worst, instead of letting it break them, they lift everyone else up with their courage and optimism... Hang in there. 😘

🙂

Yeah, I am. Everything is fine. 🙂 Today marks exactly one year since this whole mess started. I can still vividly remember that headache waking me up at 4:30 AM; how I ate a banana just so I could take a painkiller, only to end up throwing it all back up later. Back then, they thought I had a neck injury because I’d slipped on some ice two days prior. I spent my days wearing a brace, just dying from the pain, until a nurse finally forced me to go see a private neurologist. 🙏
From Christmas through New Year's, I did nothing but sleep and run to appointments—X-rays, ultrasounds, you name it. Even riding an elevator or walking up stairs made my head throb, and I felt this intense pressure in my ears whenever I laid down. Even someone talking nearby would bother me; I’d have to rest my head and take deep breaths just to let the pain pass. Then, on January 3rd, they did an EEG and saw reduced brain activity. As soon as they called ten doctors into the office, I knew something was seriously wrong. The doctor managed to get me into the ER for a CT scan. I remember them being reluctant to do it because I looked "normal," and those scans aren't cheap. But once they saw the image... they just went quiet. They turned pale. The neurologist pulled me into a room and asked if I had any allergies. He explained I needed an MRI. I didn't have the slightest clue what that was or why I needed it.
In this tiny 2x2 meter room, he told me to sit down. His exact words were: "Look, Ms. C, this isn't good. You have a large brain tumor. Now, please change into this gown; we're going to do an MRI to see the extent of it." I sat there for a minute, paralyzed, and then I started undressing.
As I lay in the machine—which takes about thirty minutes and is incredibly loud while my head is absolutely splitting—my first thought was how perfectly logical it seemed that I had a brain tumor. I'm young, I've graduated college, I have my dream job, a family that loves me, wonderful friends, and a husband I adore. It felt too perfect to be true.
And then, I felt this sharp pang in my stomach. How was I supposed to tell them??
Personally, I don't care much about myself. But how do you tell the people you love that you might die? Believe me, setting aside the tumor and the life-or-death struggle, the absolute worst thing that can happen to you is seeing that kind of terror in the eyes of the people who mean everything to you.

Anyway, they admitted me to the hospital, gave me some space, and started treatment. A neurosurgeon (Sajko, who actually became a real friend later) from Vinogradska Hospital came to see me the next day to explain the situation and the plan. After moving around a bit, I ended up at Vinogradska where they operated on January 11th. They removed everything they could find. The MRI showed it was all clear. Recovery was fast, and I wasn't in any pain. By January 19th, I was already home celebrating my sister's birthday.😍

This isn't some heavy, emotional topic for me. I never cried, and honestly, I never once doubted that things would turn out okay. Every single doctor told me that my optimism and general zest for life accounted for about 90% of my recovery. I don't think I could have pulled through without the massive wave of love I felt from thousands of messages sent by everyone who knows me. I just felt this overwhelming surge of positive energy and affection.
I’m sharing this because I want you to understand what it’s actually like when you're sick. We hide the hair loss caused by chemo just so we don't depress the people we care about. It’s not because we're embarrassed or in denial; it’s just hard to look into someone's eyes and see nothing but pity and fear. So, if you know someone dealing with an illness, please offer them positivity and love instead of sympathy. People fighting these battles hate feeling like they're causing others to suffer.

Love you all 😘
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#2975 ·
fadedtrucker5 said:This isn't some heavy, tragic topic for me. I haven't shed a single tear, and at no point did I think my story wouldn't have a happy ending. One after another, my doctors told me that my optimism and my zest for life accounted for about 90% of my recovery. Honestly, I couldn't have done it without the overwhelming love I felt through the literal thousands of messages sent by everyone who knows me. I could just feel that positive energy and love.
I’m writing this all to give you a glimpse into what it’s actually like for people who are sick. We hide the hair we lose from chemotherapy just so we don't depress the people we love. It’s not because we’re embarrassed or trying to deny anything; it’s because it’s exhausting to see pity and fear in other people's eyes. So, if you know someone who is struggling, support them with positivity and love instead of pity. When you're sick, the last thing you want is to feel like you're causing others pain.

Love you all 😘

Jesus, this is so beautifully written I actually teared up. 🙂

I am so sorry you had to go through all of this. I really hope you can put it all behind you as soon as possible. Your optimism is truly incredible—everyone should strive to be like that, because that's exactly what pulls a person out of the depths. 😘
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#2976 ·
fadedtrucker5 said:Hey everyone, just wanted to check in. I’m actually doing great. They had to switch up my chemo because I developed an allergy to Temodal. I just wrapped up the first of six cycles with this new regimen; it’s pretty intense, and each cycle drags on for about six weeks. I've been dealing with some nausea and my blood counts have taken a dip, but honestly, nothing I can't handle.

Anyway, I just wanted to let you all know that I’m feeling good and thinking of you guys constantly. I haven't posted much because there hasn't been any major news to report. I have my next scan coming up in a month—it'll be one year since my surgery—and I'm really hoping everything looks clear again. 😍

If you're fighting a battle right now, don't give up. And if you're looking after someone who is sick, please lead with love. That's truly all anyone needs when they're too exhausted to love themselves.

Big hugs to everyone. 🙂

Hang in there and keep staying so brave! I'm so glad you reached out. 🙂
Karen Castillo11 Karen Castillo11 Newcomer
1 message
joined Dec 2011
#2977 ·
Greetings, everyone.
Unfortunately, this is the kind of place where we find ourselves meeting, but I suppose that’s just how life goes.
Here is the situation: my father has been diagnosed with a "malignant supraglottic neoplasm." He was born in 1955. On October 18th of this year, he underwent surgery for epiglottis carcinoma. However, due to a host of complications—which I assume include Ca epiglottitis T2N1Mo, lateral neck metastasis, aspiration pneumonia, sepsis, MRSE bacteremia, wound infection, COPD, and partial respiratory insufficiency—he wasn't able to transition to home care until just last week, December 16th. Below is a transcript of his discharge summary: "On October 18, 2011, the patient underwent a supraglottic laryngectomy, left RND, right SND, and a tracheostomy under general anesthesia. Postoperatively, he was kept in the ICU and transferred to the ENT department after two days. Five days later, the patient experienced breathing difficulties; a chest X-ray revealed bilateral inhomogeneous infiltrative shadows in the middle and lower lung fields, necessitating a transfer back to the ICU, where he remained from October 21 to November 15, 2011. He was evaluated by an infectious disease specialist and received targeted antibiotic therapy and antifungal prophylaxis. Tests returned HBsAg negative and Anti-HCV negative. There was improvement with the administered therapy, and regular lab work and tracheostomy swabs were performed. Further treatment with radiotherapy is recommended, and medical records are being forwarded to the oncology and radiation clinic at Mayo Clinic. The patient is afebrile, feeling well, and is being discharged for home care."
His current medication regimen includes Diflucan 200mg tablets, Nexium, Atrovent inhalers, Teotard tablets, Praxiten tablets, and Accupro.
Our biggest struggle right now is that he is still relying entirely on a feeding tube. The hospital staff told us he needs to "learn" how to swallow again, but he simply cannot do it. No matter what. No matter how hard he tries, or how much we assist him and try to guide him, everything just comes right back up through the tracheostomy tube. Another major issue is the constant coughing up of secretions through the tube, which is incredibly irritating for him.
I am asking for your help. If it is at all possible, please share any advice you may have. How can he attempt to swallow? Does anyone here have experience with this? Is there a way to improve this process? Additionally, is this constant expulsion of secretions normal, and how long does it typically last? We’ve also noticed occasional blood in the secretions. Generally speaking, how can we support him through this?
I would truly appreciate any response or guidance you can offer. We feel like we’ve hit a brick wall, and we don't have access to any specialized professional help in our area.

I also want to wish you all a happy and blessed Christmas and a successful, healthy 2012.

Thank you once again!
briskdrifter2 briskdrifter2 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Jun 2018
#2978 ·
Hi everyone..
I’ve been debating whether I should even bother posting here. Usually, when depression hits me IRL, I end up lurking on this forum... 🙂
So, I’m new to this thread.
To make a long story short—my mom has had breast cancer for years now.
What makes this whole situation surreal, shocking, or just plain WTF... is that my mother never actually sought treatment for it.
This past spring, I started noticing some swelling in her right arm.
Since we don't live in the same city, I’d only see her on weekends, and I noticed her arm looked wrong—just constantly swollen.
She kept making excuses, saying it was just from working too hard or digging around in the garden, and that it would settle down if she rested.
After her arm stayed swollen every single time I visited over several months, I started getting worried.
Then, this summer, she picked up salmonella from some food she had outside, and she was absolutely wiped out after a week of vomiting and diarrhea...
Except, after lying in bed for two days, she couldn't even get back up.
Bit by bit, after endless arguments—you telling her to go to the doctor, her refusing, the "what's wrong with you?" routine—it turns out you can't have an arm that swollen just from food poisoning... It turns out my mother is in the late stages of breast cancer with metastases everywhere, mostly in the lymph nodes, obviously.
So, in one month, I went from having a mostly healthy mom with minor old-age issues like high blood pressure or a sore back from gardening, to having a terminally ill mother with breast cancer and not a single scrap of medical paperwork to show for it.
Four months have passed since then. Since the cancer wasn't officially diagnosed until recently, I won't even say she hasn't received therapy; the disease progressed terrifyingly fast. It’s the kind of thing where one week she can walk fine, the next she needs a cane, and the next she can't even move with the cane...

After the initial shock and disbelief, I’ve somewhat adjusted to the idea that Mom is going to die.
But... honestly, people, our doctors...
To start with, they act like grumpy teenagers because—get this—she refused treatment until now. How does someone even dare refuse treatment in the first place?!
Then comes the standard lecture: basically implying it's all her own fault. Like, what are they even going to tell her now?
And to top it all off, they have this attitude that there's no point in doing anything or helping a family with such a severe patient because they can't cure her, so why bother.
For example: the tumor is blocking circulation in and out of her arm, so lymph fluid is just building up. Since it just keeps accumulating and can't drain, the arm just keeps growing. Because the tumor is inoperable, they claim nothing can be done about it.
And now, based on what I’ve gathered from reading online—not from the doctors—the progression means the swelling will continue until wounds open up, eventually leading to gangrene or sepsis.
So I ask the doctors: when will I know if I need to take action against the arm? Like, when is it time to step in because gangrene or whatever has set in? They just look at me blankly and say there's nothing they can do. Okay, so what am I supposed to do? Just watch her arm slowly turn black and rot away? Should I bandage it? Does it need to be cut? Will that kill her? Something, anything...
But mostly, it's just "there's no help." Whatever that's supposed to mean to me.
And so...
Maybe my situation belongs in a hospice discussion thread, if one even exists... 🤷
hollowmarlin66 hollowmarlin66 Newcomer
1 message
joined Sep 2011
#2979 ·
I honestly don't know what to tell you... maybe try reaching out privately to arrange at least some lymphatic drainage while you work out the details for treatment at a facility (assuming your mom actually wants that). If she’s fully aware of her situation, she has the right to refuse treatment regardless of what you ask; it's her choice, so your voice won't necessarily carry more weight. Aside from rare exceptions, doctors can be pretty cold. Everyone has the right to choose their own path, and even if someone changes their mind later, help should still be provided. Sometimes, threatening them with the media or legal action is the only thing that works when they start denying care or treatment. My mother beat cancer, but my brother didn't. When we asked for records to get a second opinion, they wouldn't hand them over. When we begged them not to tell him how little time he had left—which, unfortunately, they weren't wrong about—they wouldn't stay silent. When we tried switching hospitals, they pushed back. Even when we provided everything they requested, they were difficult. All I can say is that in the end, we were the ones left with a clear conscience but a bitter taste in our mouths, while they (with few exceptions) sleep perfectly fine with heavy consciences. You can't fight the system, and it isn't worth fighting a losing battle, but you absolutely have a right to medical care, and no one is allowed to take that away from you under any circumstances. I think medicine is a textbook example of where rivalry, ego, and intolerance exist among colleagues, yet they all band together the moment an outsider speaks up against them... but unfortunately, there just aren't enough voices to make a real impact. Sadly...
hollowmarlin66 hollowmarlin66 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2011
#2980 ·
First, you mentioned that Mom was diagnosed with cancer several years ago...
but then later you said she hasn't even received a diagnosis yet.
What am I missing here? Does it mean she had an exam a few years back, got a diagnosis, and turned down treatment? And now, after experiencing these symptoms, she hasn't been checked out, so you're worried they might be metastases? Or did I misunderstand something?

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