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Starship Troopers: Marauder

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Participants Frank Moore4Chris Hall47Anthony Smith3Eric Jackson43slyeagle13briskbison41Carol Lewisredwalker6Chloe Palmer2Carol King13David Price5Lawrence Booth2Alex Sanchez45ironcanyon7loneranger24Brian Foster2mellowtrucker44Jose Martin13Richard Wilson4Donna Bishop14Thomas Foster5gentleeagle45
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#41 ·
Just finished watching this movie and I have to say, it’s actually really solid. It isn’t some massive blockbuster spectacle, which is totally fair since it's a direct-to-video release, but it’s definitely worth your time if you're a fan.

Visually speaking, I’d say they hit the mark. It looks like they dumped a huge chunk of their modest budget straight into the effects. To be honest, the bugs look a little artificial—kind of reminding me of how they looked in the original film from 11 years ago. On the flip side, the space sequences and the way they laid out the propaganda messaging look genuinely great.

Jolene Blalock is her usual talented self, but Casper van Dien is really the MVP here; without him, the movie wouldn't even be half as engaging. As for the plot, it feels like it took some heavy inspiration from Babylon 5 and DS9, especially regarding the religious undertones and the whole undemocratic vibe of the government (you can easily draw a parallel to the undemocratic United Nations in Babylon 5). The first movie didn't lean nearly as hard into politics or religion, so this felt like a refreshing change of pace.

The character arc for Sky Marshall Anoke was handled pretty well, too. I was totally convinced he was one of the good guys for most of the film, just like Hauser was, so seeing his true colors at the end was a nice twist. One of the standout moments for me was when Lola (aka Jolene) commands the ship to go into warp—it immediately gave me T'Pol vibes. 😁

But honestly, the coolest part of the whole thing was finally getting a look at the combat units from the Marauder program. We didn't get to see them in the first two movies, even though they're a staple in the Heinlein book the story is based on. The only thing missing from the books was seeing those handheld nuclear weapons actually in action. For the actual Marauder scenes, it looks like they went with a mix of CGI and stop-motion animation.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#42 ·
At first glance

more movies have been ripped off... visually speaking
briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
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#43 ·
Anthony Smith3 said:So, I skimmed through some clips of the movie the other day, and honestly, despite my usual skepticism, I have to admit it looks pretty cool. I’m actually hoping it lives up to the hype.😁

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These new bugs are actually pretty interesting. I haven't sat down to watch the movie yet, though.
Alex Sanchez45 Alex Sanchez45 Newcomer
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#44 ·
Just like I said when I was talking about sci-fi

The bad:
1) Honestly, this movie isn't even worth half of what the first one was—and let's be real, that first part was a total masterpiece.
2) The whole thing feels like some leftist rant about Bush and how he used Christianity for war propaganda, just moved out into space.
3) The plot is way too naive and just doesn't make sense half the time.
4) Casper van Dien gives a garbage performance, his general buddy (some Black guy) also acts like crap, and even Jolene Blalock can't save this.

The good:
1) Most of the time, it’s actually watchable.
2) There are a few scenes here and there that are freaking hilarious.
3) That religious woman (Maran Patterson) looks absolutely stunning.😲
4) In one scene where Rico sets up his six marines, I actually found myself wondering why there were three hot women there, and sure enough, a minute later, their boobs and asses are being flashed in true Paul Verhoeven style.🙏
5) The leader of the Federation who also happens to be the biggest pop star in the entire Federation.🙏🙏🙏
ironcanyon7 ironcanyon7 Member
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#45 ·
Frank Moore4 said:Are you actually talking about Riley?Jack Busey...or like some kind of Gestapo agent. 😁 Neil Patrick Harris I mean, let’s be real—at this point, it’s basically become an essential part of every Harold and Kumar film. You can't even watch one without expecting it to show up. 😁 )?
By the way, I always felt like Clancy Brown was the absolute law when he played Sergeant Zim. 😁

What the hell were you thinking sowing that unicorn? 🤣
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
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#46 ·
So, I finally sat down and watched it... and honestly, it was pretty much what I thought it would be—the third installment is nowhere near the level of the first one, but still, it’s lightyears ahead of that second sequel. It’s definitely a decent watch, though if I'm being real, it feels like the special effects in that original movie actually hold up better today than the stuff they used in this one...
That whole religious subplot felt almost tragicomic to me, especially because Jolene Blalock's character having this sudden "conversion" just didn't feel earned at all, and the peak of the absurdity had to be those scenes where they were cutting through bugs while those two were busy praying...

I will say, a huge highlight for me was seeing that group of badass women 🙂 and, well, that striptease scene 🙏

Bottom line: it’s a massive step up from the second part, but nothing can quite touch the magic of the first one...
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#47 ·
The only real letdown with the third installment is that Jolene didn't show us the guy. 😁
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
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#48 ·
Frank Moore4 said:The only real letdown with the third installment is that Jolene didn't show us the guy... 😁

Honestly, I spent the entire movie just waiting for that to happen... 😁
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#49 ·
Frank Moore4 said:The only real downside to the third installment is that Jolene didn't show anything. 😁

I honestly still can't wrap my head around how Paul Verhoeven couldn't convince Denise Richards to strip in the first movie... especially since we all know she did it for Wild Things.
Carol Lewis Carol Lewis Active Member
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#50 ·
David Price5 said:I honestly still can't wrap my head around how Paul Verhoeven couldn't talk Dennis Richardson into doing a nude scene in the first movie... especially since we all know she ended up doing it for Wild Thing...

And let's be real, they spent the entire movie just waiting for her to show up...🤣
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#51 ·
David Price5 said:I honestly still can't wrap my head around how Paul Verhoeven didn't manage to get Dennis Richardson to strip down in the first movie... especially since we all know she went for it in Wild Thing.


That’s exactly why Din Meyer ended up doing it—you know, the actress famous for playing the Romulan Lieutenant Commander Donatra in Star Trek : Nemesis.

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briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
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#52 ·
Frank Moore4 said:That’s why Din Meyer, who everyone remembers as the Romulan Commander from Star Trek : Nemesis, stepped out of character.

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David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#53 ·
Frank Moore4 said:That's why she stepped out of her role as the Romulan Lieutenant Commander Donatra in Star Trek : Nemesis.

I see. That’s why I respect her 😁..I didn't even recognize her in that part..and usually, I don't pay much attention to those things..but I watched the movie anyway..honestly, I wasn't expecting this kind of film. They leaned way too hard into the religious themes..though we still have Wanzera (which sticks with me from Front Mission), the commercials, and that singing commander. It's worth a watch..I'm surprised they don't use those types of machines in sci-fi more often..I think the last time I saw them was in Matrix Reloaded...
loneranger24 loneranger24 Newcomer
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#54 ·
Alex Sanchez45 said:5) A leader of the Federation who also happens to be the biggest pop star within that very same Federation. 🙏🙏🙏

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_6JWxoC9c
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#55 ·
loneranger24 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D_6JWxoC9c


Hands down, the best part of the whole movie. 🙏 🙏 🤣 😬
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 Regular
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#56 ·
Starship Troopers 3: Marauder 1/5 - TRAILER
Look, I know plenty of people think the second movie was total trash regardless of whether I or anyone else tries to defend it, but trust me, the sequel is (once again) a masterpiece compared to this third one. I honestly don't even have the words for how bad this is... everything about it just sucks. We’re talking pathetic directing (I mean, Edward Neumeier might have written decent scripts once, but he should definitely stay away from the director's chair), even worse action (it looks like they just strapped a camera to a tripod, hit record, and let the crew shoot at each other while changing angles every few seconds), plus the acting is laughable and the CGI is bottom-tier. To make matters worse, they actually had a bigger budget than the second film—a whopping $20 million—and "better" actors (Casper van Dien is back, along with Jolene Blalock from Star Trek : Enterprise), but it's all wasted. The plot is stupid, the acting is abysmal, and the characters are just as bad (we've got a singing marshal, a pissed-off sergeant, a lieutenant who can barely speak English, and some annoying broad on the ship constantly rambling about faith and God that I'd love to just shut up). The only bright spot is a tiny bit of nudity, but since it isn't a naked Jolene Blalock, it's hardly worth mentioning.
In short—a complete disaster!!!
Brian Foster2 Brian Foster2 Active Member
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#57 ·
What an absolute disaster of a movie!
Honestly, it might have actually been fun if it wasn't weighed down by all that biblical nonsense... just awful.
mellowtrucker44 mellowtrucker44 Member
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#58 ·
What do you mean biblical bullshit? Bullshit????

The movie is this brilliant satire, and honestly, I had such a blast watching them take shots at religion—which has basically been the biggest enemy and mass killer on this planet since humanity even showed up...

When that woman Holly starts praying and rambling about faith on the planet, my favorite part was when she realizes Sky Marshall Anoke doesn't exactly worship the same "God" she does, leading to this exchange:

Bull Brittles: He thinks God is a Bug?
Lola Beck: He's got religion. Their religion.
Holly Little: Bug religion?
Bull Brittles: That's crazy.
Holly Little: That's blasphemy!
Bull Brittles: What do we do now?
Holly Little: Maybe we should kill him.
Lola Beck: Why, because he's crazy? Or he believes in God like you?
Holly Little: It's The wrong god !

One word—brilliant...

Then, right when the Behemacoytl attack and Holly and Lola start praying, with Holly shouting, "God, send us angels from Heaven!", Rico drops down with his Marauders. Are weapons of mass destruction considered angels now? Haha...

Just brilliant...

And then, all these experts across the United Nations conclude:
a) God definitely exists
b) He’s on our side
c) He’s a citizen of the United Nations and wants us to win

I don't know about you guys, but that feels way too much like the current state of the world and that whole "my God is better than yours and wants me to win" vibe. So yeah, brilliant...

But the absolute peak is the final scene. First, they’re debating on the Federal Network TV commercials whether using a devastating Q-Bomba that could wipe out an entire planet is actually ethical, or if they should just drop it on the bug planet OM-1...

Man: Why not? A bug wouldn't hesitate to use it!
Woman: Yeah, but aren't we better than them?

And there's your answer. The bomb is en route, while Dix and Lola are in their starship watching it descend. Lola tells him how she found religion and God down on the planet, and Dix just gives her this confused look. After a beat of silence, he just says: Well, nobody's perfect. 🙏🙏🙏

Then comes the kiss while, in the background, the bomb beautifully tears the planet apart...

What’s the one word that comes to mind? Oh, right. BRILLIANT! 🙏🙏🙏
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 Regular
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#59 ·
Ugh... damn☕
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#60 ·
mellowtrucker44 said:religion—basically the biggest enemy and mass murderer on this planet since humanity even existed.


Especially when you consider that "religion" was basically communism-atheism, which left over 100 million people dead.

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