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Starship Troopers: Marauder

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Participants Frank Moore4Chris Hall47Anthony Smith3Eric Jackson43slyeagle13briskbison41Carol Lewisredwalker6Chloe Palmer2Carol King13David Price5Lawrence Booth2Alex Sanchez45ironcanyon7loneranger24Brian Foster2mellowtrucker44Jose Martin13Richard Wilson4Donna Bishop14Thomas Foster5gentleeagle45
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#61 ·
Frank Moore4 said:That is especially true if you consider that particular "religion" to be communism-atheism, which cost over 100 million lives.

However, one has to admit how many people were also killed in the name of Christ.
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#62 ·
David Price5 said:but you really have to admit how many people have been killed in the name of Krist.

Look, the people actually committing those acts don't have anything to do with Krist or Christianity. They’re just hypocrites who hijacked the faith to serve their own selfish agendas. There’s a massive difference between Christianity as a legitimate religion and a source of salvation, and then there's the group of people who claim to be Christians on paper while having zero actual connection to the faith. Honestly, it seems like a huge trend in leftist circles these days to just lump everything together into one big mess.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#63 ·
Frank Moore4 said:Those individuals have absolutely nothing to do with Krist or Christianity; they are simply opportunists who exploited the faith for their own gain. There is a clear distinction between Christianity as a true religion and a source of salvation, and those who claim the label while having zero connection to its actual values. Unfortunately, it seems quite trendy in leftist circles today to lump everyone together into one big, messy category.

And that is precisely where the trouble lies. If all believers and atheists actually lived by their respective moral and religious principles, we would likely never see war break out...
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#64 ·
David Price5 said:See, that's exactly where the issue lies. If every single believer or atheist actually lived by their own moral code and religious principles, we wouldn't be seeing wars breaking out all the time.

Exactly. People have been the problem since the beginning of time, not religion itself, no matter how much some people try to maliciously twist that narrative.
Jose Martin13 Jose Martin13 Member
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#65 ·
Just finished watching Starship Troopers... absolute garbage. A mediocre disaster with a plot you can see coming from a mile away. And the acting? Don't even get me started—it was painful. The action scenes felt more like some lame picnic out in the middle of nowhere than a war. Honestly, Heinlein would be spinning in his grave if he saw what they did to his work.
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#66 ·
pretty decent flick
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#67 ·
Where did Casper even disappear to after the first movie? I haven't seen a single one of his films since...
Donna Bishop14 Donna Bishop14 Newcomer
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#68 ·
Honestly, if you look at this thing through the lens of a kid's movie, it’s just a bad film. The costumes are super weird—like those long coats they wore in the first part—and the acting is pretty laughable. It feels way more like a comic book adaptation than an actual movie; it never really hits that serious tone it tries to aim for. Plus, you've got those naive Melrose Place faces everywhere... I know people were basically laughing their heads off at how it was put together, especially during the first two installments.
Thomas Foster5 Thomas Foster5 Member
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#69 ·
Anthony Smith3 said:Starship Troopers 3: Marauder 1/5 - The trailer just dropped.
I suspect there are plenty of people out there who think the second installment was—and always will be—absolute garbage, regardless of how much anyone else tries to defend it. But believe me when I say this: compared to the third one, the sequel is (again) a masterpiece. As for the third film? I honestly don’t have enough insults to do it justice... everything about it is just bad. We're talking about abysmal direction—look, Edward Neumeier might have written some decent scripts back in the day, but he should definitely stay far away from the director's chair. Then there’s the action, which is even worse. It feels like they just set up a tripod, hit record, and let the crew shoot at each other while occasionally changing the camera angle. To top it all off, you have laughable acting and bottom-tier CGI. The kicker? They actually had a bigger budget than the second movie—a whopping $20 million—and "better" actors, too. You had Casper van Dien returning alongside Jolene Blalock from Star Trek: Enterprise, but it was all for nothing. The plot is nonsensical, the acting is subpar, and the characters are just as bad—I mean, we’re stuck with a singing Marshal, a perpetually grumpy Sergeant, and a Lieutenant who can barely string an English sentence together. That religious fanatic from the ship—constantly preaching about faith and God—is someone I’d love to just shut down once and for all.The only redeeming quality here is a bit of skin—but since we aren't getting any actual Jolene Blalock, it’s hardly worth mentioning.
To put it bluntly—it was a total disaster!!!

Reading your post, I realized that you hit the nail right on the head—that’s exactly what I was trying to get at!

mellowtrucker44 said:What do you mean by biblical bullshit? Seriously, bullshit?

The film is a brilliant piece of satire—honestly, I loved watching them take aim at religion. It’s easily one of the biggest enemies and mass killers on this planet since humanity first showed up.

Whenever Holly starts preaching about her religion on that planet, it gets pretty intense—but my favorite part was definitely when she realized Sky Marshall Anoke wasn't exactly praying to the same "God" she was. That conversation was gold:

Bull Brittles: Does he seriously believe a bug is God?
Lola Beck: He’s gone full believer. It's their specific brand of faith.
Holly Little: Bug religion?
Bull Brittles: That’s just wild.
Holly Little: That's blasphemy!
Bull Brittles: So, where do we go from here?
Holly Little: Perhaps it’s time to consider taking him out.
Lola Beck: Is it because he’s lost his mind? Or does he actually share your level of faith?
Holly Little: It's The wrong god !

One word—brilliant!

Then, when the Behemacoytl launch their attack and Holly and Lola start praying—with Holly shouting, "God, send us angels from Heaven!"—suddenly Rico drops down with his Marauders. Are we really calling weapons of mass destruction "angels" now? Haha!

Brilliant!

Following that, experts across the entire Federation reached the same conclusion:
Well—it’s a given that God exists.
b) he's our friend
He's an American citizen—he wants us to win.

I don't know about you all, but this strikes me as a perfect mirror of today’s global landscape—that whole "my God is better than yours and wants me to win" mentality. Honestly? Brilliant.

But honestly, the climax is the absolute peak of the movie. They kick things off with those news segments on the Federal Network, debating whether dropping a devastating Q-Bomba—something capable of wiping out an entire planet—is actually ethical, or if they should just let it rip on the insect planet OM-1.

Man: Why not? Those bugs wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger themselves!
Woman: Sure, but aren't we supposed to be better than them?

And there’s your answer right there. The bomb is en route, while Dix and Lola watch from their spacecraft as it descends. Lola mentions how she found religion and a God down on the surface. Dix just gives her this bewildered look. After a beat of silence, he shrugs: Well, nobody's perfect. 🙏🙏🙏

Then comes the kiss, all while the planet gets absolutely obliterated in the background.

What word describes this? Oh, right! BRILLIANT! 🙏🙏🙏

But then I read this part! 🤣
I was dying laughing!
Maybe you're onto something—it functions more as satire 🤣
Though, personally, I think the film would have been stronger without all that religious nonsense...
The funniest bits for me were:

1. That little guy in the brown suit and bowtie rambling about God on the news, only for the military to drag him away while he yells "awaaay!"
2. It's The wrong god !
3. That ending where the high-ranking lady turns around and you see a black cross engraved on her uniform.
4. The mass for the soldiers led by the priest.

And that final takeaway: the experts concluded:
a) God definitely exists
b) He's on our side
c) He's a citizen of the Federation and wants us to win

"God exists and he is a citizen!"

That woman praying with a halo of dangerous robots hovering over her head. 🤣

Still, I really wanted to punch that flight attendant in the teeth!
"Sir, you really believe that? I didn't know you were one of us!"

I was genuinely hoping the Behemacoytl would listen to that lunatic when he shouted:

"Take this wife off my hands and kill her!"

"I got religion. I got it bad.
Well, nobody is perfect." 🤣

Total garbage. It's so bad, it's actually good.
gentleeagle45 gentleeagle45 Member
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#70 ·
The first film is decent enough. It’s an action sci-fi aimed at a younger audience, so it passes.
The second one is absolute garbage. Truly "deluxe" quality.
The third follows the style of the first, but it’s still terrible.

My ratings: the first -> 4, the second -> 1, the third -> 2.
Overall, you could watch them and then forget they exist, though I wouldn't recommend wasting the time.
Perhaps the first one is worth a look, if only because of Richard Denisa. 😂😂

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