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Rob Zombie's Halloween (2007)

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cosmicraven2 cosmicraven2 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
What are everyone's thoughts on the remake of Carpenter's classic? Rob Zombie is handling both directing and the screenplay. Production kicks off this month, with a theatrical release slated for August of this year. The cast lineup is actually quite compelling: Danielle Harris (Halloween 5), Danny Trejo, William Forsythe, Malcolm McDowell, and Sheri Moon Zombie. 🙄 They haven't officially cast the actress for Laurie Strode yet, though there's heavy speculation that Agnes Bruckner ("Venom", "The Woods") might land the role.

Carpenter was famously disappointed with the remake of "The Fog." Do we think history is about to repeat itself with "Halloween"?
neontiger27 neontiger27 Newcomer
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#2 ·
I can't say much about his movies, but I've listened to some of Rob Zombie's albums, and they're just okay.
As for the movie House of 1000 Corpses—if that's even the right title—it wasn't really my thing. It felt a bit too twisted for me.
rowdybadger41 rowdybadger41 Active Member
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#3 ·
Rob Zombie🤮
Brian Foster2 Brian Foster2 Active Member
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#4 ·
Honestly, I just can't get into his movies. They completely lack any sense of atmosphere for me!
cosmicraven2 cosmicraven2 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Over at ain'titcool.com, they just dropped the very first script review for the new "Halloween," and it’s not looking good. Apparently, the biggest issue is that they've stripped away the mystery surrounding Michael Myers—a recurring problem that seems to be plaguing the upcoming "Hannibal Rising" as well.
Anthony Rivera12 Anthony Rivera12 Newcomer
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#6 ·
Since nobody has dropped the trailer yet, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbq98GhoJQ
To me, it doesn't look terrible, but it certainly doesn't look great either.
The original is absolutely top-tier—nothing compared to this—and I highly doubt this remake will even come close to its level.
It looks like Rob Zombie is filming his own specific take on Halloween, so the story is definitely going to be tweaked; that isn't necessarily a bad thing, but damn, this looks a little too over-the-top in terms of pure violence
which is one element I’ve never been a fan of in the Halloween franchise. What I actually love is that bone-chilling atmosphere, the score, and the fact that the killer was mysterious and terrifying (though the sequels really botched that by over-explaining his backstory and introducing all sorts of nonsense, which stripped away the fear for me). Regardless, they’ve already got my money for a movie ticket—luckily🙂 or unfortunately,😢
Jerry Garcia11 Jerry Garcia11 Newcomer
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#7 ·
Oh sure, playing Danny Trejo—I don't doubt it for a second. Such a gorgeous guy.
casualraven casualraven Member
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#8 ·
So Carpenter is disappointed... give me a break...
Man, how can anyone even expect a slasher to be a good movie anyway!?
I honestly don't get what people see in flicks like Halloween, Friday the 13th, Freddy, or Scream... I mean... yuck... 🙄
driftingmason7 driftingmason7 Active Member
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#9 ·
If Rob Zombie is the one behind the lens, then we can almost certainly expect the whole thing to be absolute garbage.
driftingmason7 driftingmason7 Active Member
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#10 ·
Anthony Rivera12 said:Since nobody has bothered to post the trailer yet, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFbq98GhoJQ
To my eyes, it doesn't look terrible, but then again, it certainly doesn't look spectacular either.
The original is an absolute masterpiece, and I suspect this remake won't even come close to its level.
It seems like Rob Zombie is filming his own specific take on Halloween, which will inevitably alter the narrative—not necessarily a bad thing in theory, but good grief, this looks excessively hardcore.
The sheer amount of violence feels excessive, and that’s one element I’ve never particularly cared for in the Halloween franchise. What I truly appreciate is that haunting atmosphere, the score, and the fact that the killer used to be such a mysterious, terrifying presence (though the sequels eventually ruined that by over-explaining his backstory and introducing all sorts of nonsense until he lost his edge). Regardless, they’ll have my money for a movie ticket, whether that’s a stroke of luck🙂 or a total misfortune.😢

True, it isn't a bad trailer, but if we judged every motion picture based solely on its trailers, nearly every film ever made would be considered a masterpiece.
Anthony Rivera12 Anthony Rivera12 Newcomer
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casualraven said:Carpenter being disappointed... please...
Good grief, how can you even expect a slasher to be a "good" movie in the first place!?
And honestly, I have no clue what people see in movies like Halloween, Friday the 13th, Freddy, or Scream... I mean... bleh... 🙄

Look, everyone has their own taste. Personally, I grew up on slashers, and I actually prefer them over Japanese horror. Classics like Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street are staples—they aren't anything like Ring or Hostel. As for what people actually get out of slashers? Honestly, you should probably try to figure that out for yourself, because trying to explain it to you is going to be an uphill battle.
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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#12 ·
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Good grief, it’s like I’m watching TCM. 👎
Anthony Rivera12 Anthony Rivera12 Newcomer
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#13 ·
crimsonmoose3 said:image

God, it’s like I’m watching TCM. 👎

Look, Rob Zombie basically made a cheap knockoff of TCM called House of 1000 Corpses, and then the sequel just leaned even harder into those TCM vibes.
The original TCM is actually a solid movie—honestly, a remake was needed—but damn, Michael looks like he’s just sprinting around looking more like Leatherface, and from what I can see, he's going to be even wilder. Meanwhile, Rob claimed he'd make him feel more "human." Give me a break. To me, this feels like some weird, messy mashup of Halloween and TCM. And frankly, I find it pretty hard to bridge the gap between those two films.

Honestly, let Rob Zombie's version of Halloween just go to hell. For me, only the original by John Carpenter matters—not some mindless remake.

John Carpenter's Halloween🙏 vs. 👎Rob Zombie's Halloween🤣
Michael Rivera63 Michael Rivera63 Member
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#14 ·
Honestly, I have to admit, Rob Zombie is actually a pretty solid guy...
casualraven casualraven Member
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#15 ·
Anthony Rivera12 said:Look, everyone’s got their own thing, right? I grew up on slashers, and honestly, I’ll take them over Japanese horror any day of the week. You can't beat the absolute classics like John Carpenter's Halloween or A Nightmare on Elm Street. They just hit different compared to stuff like The Ring or Hostel. As for what people actually get out of slashers... man, I don't even know how to put it into words. I could try to explain it to you, but it's one of those things you just have to experience for yourself to truly get.

Yeah, the real kicker in what you just said is... grown up 🙂
Once you stop getting pimples all over your face, you kind of lose interest in slashers too... or at least that's how it feels to me. 🙂
Anthony Rivera12 Anthony Rivera12 Newcomer
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casualraven said:Yeah, the absolute key takeaway from what you just said is... grown up 🙂
Once you finally stop getting pimples all over your face, your interest in slashers tends to evaporate... or at least, that’s how it feels to me. 🙂

Look, I’ve stopped watching them—it’s just a matter of taste at this point. But let's get back on track here; this thread is specifically about the Halloween remake, not whether or not you personally have an issue with the slasher genre. Honestly, I have no idea which slashers you’ve actually sat through to develop such a hatred for them. For what it's worth, I agree that most modern slashers are absolute garbage—though I’ll make an exception for the Final Destination trilogy, which was actually a blast, even if I'm not entirely sure it qualifies as a true slasher.
I have a massive soft spot for those 80s flicks—the ones I grew up on and still find myself revisiting to this day. There’s just something about that era of filmmaking that hits differently.
And honestly, I’m telling you—if you haven't sat down and actually watched the original 1984 Nightmare on Elm Street, you really ought to give it a fair shake. Just do yourself a favor and check it out.
Looking at this entry for John Carpenter's Halloween—which, let’s be honest, is basically the blueprint for everything that followed—it’s easy to get lost in the nostalgia. But if you actually sit down and watch it, you realize how much of the modern slasher genre owes its very existence to this specific film. It isn't just about the jump scares; it's about that relentless, driving tension that Carpenter mastered so effortlessly. There is something about the pacing here that modern horror movies just can't seem to replicate—they're too rushed, too reliant on cheap thrills. This? This is a slow burn. It builds a sense of dread that settles right into your bones. And while people love to argue about which sequels hold up, you really have to respect the foundation laid here. It’s pure, distilled cinematic terror.
Or, you know, the original 1978 Halloween.
If you haven't sat down and actually watched John Carpenter's Halloween yet—and I mean truly sat down to appreciate the craft—then honestly, what are you even doing with your life? It’s one of those rare instances where the atmosphere does more heavy lifting than the actual kills, which, let’s be real, is a feat in itself given how much slashers rely on cheap jump scares nowadays. There is something about the way Carpenter handles the pacing—it’s deliberate, almost surgical—that builds this suffocating sense of dread. It isn't just about Michael Myers lurking in the shadows; it's about that feeling that the very air in Haddonfield is getting thinner. The score alone? Iconic. It’s practically etched into the DNA of the horror genre at this point. You can't talk about the evolution of the slasher without acknowledging this masterpiece. It’s blunt, it’s effective, and frankly, it puts half the modern "elevated horror" trash to shame. If you're looking for mindless gore, go watch something else, but if you want to understand why we're still talking about this decades later, this is the gold standard.
Or is it better to stick with the original 1974 version on TCM?
If you haven't sat down and actually watched John Carpenter's Halloween yet, I genuinely don't know what to tell you—you’re missing out on a masterclass in tension. This isn't just some mindless slasher flick; it's the blueprint. Carpenter manages to turn a simple suburban setting into this suffocating, claustrophobic nightmare using nothing but atmosphere and a score that will stay lodged in your brain forever. Let’s be real: people love to talk about the sequels or the various reboots, but nothing quite captures that primal, creeping dread like the original. It’s stripped down, it’s lean, and it doesn't rely on cheap jump scares to get a reaction. It’s all about the anticipation—that feeling that something is watching you from the shadows of a perfectly normal American neighborhood. Even decades later, the pacing holds up beautifully. If you're looking for the roots of the entire genre, this is where you start. Period.
If you consider yourself a true horror fan, these slashers aren't just recommendations—they are absolute essentials. Honestly, most of the garbage being churned out in the horror genre today doesn't even come close to these. We're talking about some of the finest horror films ever made, period.
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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#17 ·
Does anyone really think women understand slashers any better than Paris Hilton understands algebra? 😬 😁

But I’ll give you this: the 70s and 80s were the golden era for slashers—think TCM, Nightmare on Elm Street, F13, or Halloween. Those films actually relied on unwritten rules, great scores, shock value, tension, and a real concept. 🙏 🙏 Nowadays, everything just leans on excessive gore, sex, and mindless violence, like those idiot movies Hostel or House of Wax. 👎 Currently, I'm working my way through the entire Friday the 13th series—just hit the seventh installment. 🙏 🙏
casualraven casualraven Member
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#18 ·
crimsonmoose3 said:I'm actually bingeing the whole Friday the 13th series right now—just hit the seventh one. 🙏 🙏

Man, that's probably the most ridiculous franchise out there... even more than Freddy. 😁

Slow, dumb, half-naked teenagers in creepy backwoods settings being hunted over and over by some limp, mindless corpse with a sharp object... sounds like a recipe for pure bliss... OR IS IT? 🙂

Well, except for the first one, obviously...

Btw, I'm a guy. For the five hundredth time. I guess user profiles exist for a reason.
crimsonmoose3 crimsonmoose3 Regular
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casualraven said:Yeah, and that’s probably the most absurd entry in any series... even compared to Freddy's😁

Slow, dim-witted, half-naked teenagers in dark backwoods being hunted by some limping, dull-witted corpse with a sharp object over and over again... a recipe for ecstasy... OR IS IT? 🙂

Except for the first one, admittedly...

By the way, I'm male. For the five hundredth time. User profiles exist for a reason, after all.

Yes, I know, I started this. 😁 But it's all just nonsense for entertainment. 🤣 You can't expect a quality plot from a series like this—just how they managed to stretch it out. To me, the whole franchise is garbage; those crazy ideas, the ways they exploited the brand, the movie deaths, and don't even get me started on Jason. Michael Myers isn't even in his league.🙂
Anthony Rivera12 Anthony Rivera12 Newcomer
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casualraven said:Man, that’s probably the most absurd franchise out there... even more so than Freddy Krueger😁

Slow, dim-witted, half-naked teenagers wandering through dark backwoods, hunted by some limping, brainless corpse wielding a sharp object—catching them over and over and over again... sounds like a recipe for pure ecstasy... OR IS IT? 🙂

Well, except for the first one, obviously...

Btw, I'm a guy. For the five-hundredth time. I guess user profiles actually serve a purpose after all.

Personally, I’ve always found Friday the 13th at least fun to watch. I know they aren't "smart" movies, but I've always had a soft spot for them. They have a killer you can actually root for, solid kills, and a decent sense of humor thrown in on the side🤣. They’re definitely better than the slashers we see today. Honestly, compared to modern trash, even Jason Voorhees (part 10 of the series) stood out as one of the best slashers to come along in eight years.

casualraven said:So, I’m actually sitting here watching the whole Friday the 13th series—I'm currently on the seventh installment.

You know, I’ve been scrolling through the reviews on your blog.
So far you've covered five of them. I'm genuinely curious to see what you’ll say about part six, because in my opinion, that's easily one of the best sequels alongside Jason Voorhees.

casualraven said:And don't even get me started on Jason. Michael Myers doesn't even come close.

Well, duh! Of course he isn't. Jason is pure, unadulterated rage—he kills better, and he’s constantly smashing through doors and windows. He just looks much more intense to me.

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