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Dead Carrot said:I’ll play nice—I'm nothing more than a figment of your imagination🥳
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Fine, you win... again. 😁
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Dead Carrot said:I’ll play nice—I'm nothing more than a figment of your imagination🥳
Frank Harrigan said:you ain't never gonna be a cowboy
Merle Haggard - Okie from Muskogee
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Daniel Bailey7 said:Since you both studied linguistics, I guess you actually know what you're talking about for once! 🙄
Daniel Bailey7 said:Aren't these disappearing threads just wonderful? 😂
Daniel Bailey7 said:Man, aren't these disappearing threads just the best? 😂
Gregory Walker15 said:only the mod holds all the secrets😢
Dead Carrot said:On-topic, this is an eternal debate in every art form—does a work hold value entirely on its own, or must it be judged through the lens of its creator and the circumstances of its birth? A person's worldview and lifestyle inevitably shape their output, so it isn't illogical to demand an understanding of that background. It actually explains why consumers often feel a drive to share the same philosophy as the artist.
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To be honest, I still carry a certain moral code that prevents me from even giving certain things a chance. Here is my stance:
I believe there is a massive distinction between a band that "sold out" to a major label like Sony Music and someone who openly promotes Nazism, sexism, xenophobia, or any other form of discrimination that clashes with my own identity. That’s why "sellout" punk bands can still find a home in my CD player, while guys like Thompson and boriti Corba won't be touched by me—not even in my wildest dreams—even if they were making music I actually enjoyed. You have to draw a line somewhere.
Dead Carrot said:I listened to Corba back when I was a kid and I thought they were good. Objectively speaking, some of their stuff still holds up. But if I heard them on the radio, I’d switch the station immediately. If I had their record in my hands, I’d throw it right out the window. It’s a matter of principle.
It's a similar thing with Chomsky—his statements regarding Srebrenica turned me off completely. I can cite his linguistics books; after all, he is one of the greatest linguists of our era. But everything else he’s ever written simply ceases to exist for me.
rutvica said:Personally, my favorite way to experience art is knowing absolutely nothing about the author. Once you know, it starts bleeding into your perception of the work whether you want it to or not; you just can't help it. And it works both ways—I end up loving things more if I start liking the artist, and hating them more if the artist is unlikable. It’s exhausting.
Besides, unless we are talking about extreme cases, you never truly know the whole truth about another person. It’s easy to say something like "Hemingway was a misogynist," but how do I really know what he was like? Maybe I'm no better than anyone else.
And yeah, if we are speaking hypothetically, I would still want to enjoy a poem or a book even if the author turned out to be a pedophile or a cannibal. Hopefully. 🤔
Terry Rodriguez41 said:What exactly are we even talking about here?...
Austin Phillips3 said:All that political correctness and other quasi-moral nonsense. 🤮