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Natural remedies for the flu and boosting immunity

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Participants Jerry Moore2Walter Myers4Noah Cook5Kenneth Hernandez67Kyle Nelson2slyraven82driftinggull13nimbledriver81rustymoose54shadowfalcon33Michael Cox40dustycanyon6Jessica Fox29placidfox55jadesailor14Amy Fox97Sam BrooksRoger Smith6frozenlynx33Frank Alvarez8steelstag4nimbleviper23Anthony Rodriguez58Jose Miller3 …
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#101 ·
nimbledriver81 said:AWESOME. Just send me a box of your "help" or whatever you call it, and I'll run some tests on it here in the lab. I'll post the results right here on Reddit.
Since you aren't selling it anyway...

you're definitely going to get an answer from me 😁
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#102 ·
jadesailor14 said:So you actually got an answer from me? 😁

Taylor Swift? A love letter sitting right there in the DMs? 😍

And hey—I really need to set the record straight here! I was just looking over the undergraduate curriculum at P&G—specifically the nutrition track—and they actually have courses like "Selected Chapters in Functional Human Anatomy," "Fundamentals of Human Physiology," and even "Immunology for Nutritionists." It’s probably just the basics, mind you... though it sounds much more intense than I first thought!
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#103 ·
When I signed up to be a test subject for this healing program, CNN sent over some info about what they actually feed you 🙂
Honestly, one look at a photo of his awkward, lanky physique completely killed any excitement I had

And just like that, the whole experiment was dead in the water before it even started
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#104 ·
nimbledriver81 said:1. Just because someone has been doing something for years doesn't make it an argument.

It’s not—but the actual argument lies in the results, which aren't just some overnight fluke, but rather the product of years upon years of rigorous research and study.

nimbledriver81 said:2. People get into alternative medicine and cellular nutrition, so what? People also believe in a flat earth, garden gnomes, and all sorts of other nonsense—is just being involved in something an argument?

No, the real argument is RESULTS.

nimbledriver81 said:2. Referring to "one professional journal" is a counter-point, not an argument.

Look, I don't exactly have a perfect answer for every single question thrown my way.
I’m not exactly a regular reader of academic journals or scientific papers, so I won't be diving into the microscopic details here.
Certain facts are just common knowledge to me, and I'm mostly using this "thinking out loud" process to highlight those specific points.

nimbledriver81 said:3. The pharmaceutical industry is incredibly powerful specifically in countries with strong traditional medicine, like China or India. How can you say that when they have such fantastic traditional practices? Some would just ask... well, they'd claim it's all just lobbies.

In those countries, it's really just about having cheaper labor—that has absolutely nothing to do with their "traditional medicine." 😉

nimbledriver81 said:4. I haven't been sick, and whether I will be is another story; you eat healthy, yet you were still sick (not counting the part where you *will* be), so stop talking nonsense about diet and its massive impact on health. Of course it matters, but most consequences stem from poor eating habits leading to obesity rather than anything else, which ultimately isn't about the food itself, but the nutritional habits. There is no such thing as "unhealthy food" (provided it's hygienic and non-toxic)—there is only unhealthy eating.

Ever since I started eating healthy, I haven't been sick. 🙂

Unhealthy eating is the first step, choosing the wrong foods is the second, and the consequences are the third.
Go ahead then—eat a Big Mac three times a day, grab some fries, wash it down with a Coke, and keep living under the delusion that it isn't doing you harm.😁

The issue is also movement; so many modern conveniences encourage us to stay sedentary—cars, elevators, TVs... you name it.
Then there's the time factor; most people simply don't have the bandwidth to think about any of this because they're working all day, eating on the run (usually junk)... and so on.

People are always hunting for simple solutions, especially if they're actually effective and efficient... so, what's so surprising about that?
Look, I’ll say it—fast food is arguably one of the most brilliant concepts ever conceived, even if the actual selection of food is an absolute train wreck. We're finally seeing some movement in that direction, with menus actually attempting to evolve, but there’s still this persistent...Is there such a thing as fast food for the intellectually gifted? It’s a bit of a paradox, isn't it—the idea that you could grab something quick on the go without completely sabotaging your cognitive function or feeling like a total greaseball by lunchtime. I was sitting in a cafe in New York City the other day, watching people tear into greasy bags of fries like they were fighting for their lives, and I couldn't help but wonder if we've just collectively given up on quality for the sake of speed. I mean, don't get me wrong—we all have those days where a Big Mac sounds like heaven—but there’s a massive difference between "I need fuel now" and "I want to feel sluggish for the next four hours." If you're actually trying to maintain some level of mental clarity—you know, keeping the gears turning for work or whatever—maybe the standard drive-thru menu isn't exactly the peak of culinary achievement. I’ve been looking into better options lately—trying to find that sweet spot where convenience meets actual nutrition—and it turns out there are more choices than just the usual suspects. You start looking at places that prioritize whole ingredients or even just smarter assembly, and suddenly, the "fast food" label doesn't feel quite so damning. It's about being intentional, even when you're in a rush. Or maybe I'm just getting old and my metabolism is finally staging a protest against my lifestyle choices. Who knows?". 🙂

My buddy said:Look, let’s be real—the pharmaceutical industry is going to chase whatever yields the highest profit margin, just like any other massive corporate machine out there. It doesn't matter if they're isolating some miracle compound from a rare wildflower, pulling something out of a snail, or synthesizing a completely artificial molecule in a high-tech lab—it’s all just numbers on a spreadsheet to them. Honestly, it's pretty cynical when you think about it. They basically stopped bothering with plant-based research because the ROI is too low; apparently, nature isn't "potent" enough to justify the overhead compared to a patented synthetic pill. It's all about that bottom line.

Honestly, I’ve always felt that synthetic supplements—you know, those lab-made "artificial" vitamins you see cluttering up the shelves at Walgreens—are just a bit underwhelming. It’s like trying to fuel a high-performance engine with low-grade kerosene; it technically works, but you aren't getting the full experience. They just don't seem to hit the mark when it comes to actually interacting with live cells in the way nature intended. It’s a different beast entirely when you're dealing with real, bioavailable nutrients versus something cooked up in a beaker.
Look, we need to have a serious talk about the whole "food as medicine" concept. It’s a valid idea—truly—but people tend to treat it like some kind of magic trick. They think if they swap out a Big Mac for a kale salad, they’ll suddenly feel like a superhero by tomorrow morning. It doesn't work like that. Real nutrition isn't an overnight fix; it requires actual time and, more importantly, relentless consistency. Think about it this way—nobody just wakes up one Tuesday morning and realizes they’ve become chronically ill out of nowhere. Illness is a slow build, a gradual accumulation of habits and circumstances. So, logically, healing follows the same trajectory. You can't undo years of poor choices with a single weekend of juicing. It’s a marathon, not a sprint—though I know how much we all love a good shortcut.

So, my buddy was telling me...
All those other "arguments" floating around regarding the pharmaceutical industry? Honestly, it’s just pure nonsense—nothing more than mindless, low-level chatter you'd hear from neighborhood gossips at a local supermarket. It’s frankly exhausting to watch how little people actually grasp when they try to theorize about how the pharma world really functions.

Oh, please—you’re actually asking me to play devil's advocate and talk you off the ledge? Fine. If you really want me to step into the ring and try to convince you that the exact opposite is true, I'll do it—but don't say I didn't warn you when my logic starts making too much sense. It's going to be a long, winding road of arguments, probably involving several unnecessary tangents and a fair amount of dry sarcasm, but if you're truly looking for a counter-perspective, I'm more than happy to oblige. Just sit tight—this might take a minute. 😉

My buddy said:The whole "healthy" food industry, the alternative medicine crowd, and even certain branches of modern medicine—honestly, at this point, I’m convinced they aren't actually industries at all. They operate more like some sort of glorified Samaritan association. It’s all just a giant, performative charity act masquerading as a business model.

Everything around us is just industry, isn't it? It’s all part of some massive machine—some endless cycle of production and consumption—but let's be honest, there are really only two kinds out there: the ones that actually move the needle in a helpful way, and the ones that just leave us completely screwed. One side builds things up, while the other... well, they basically just pick our pockets or mess with the system. It's a bit of a toss-up depending on which corporate giant you happen to be looking at that day.
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#105 ·
jadesailor14 said:When I signed up to be a guinea pig for this healing thing, CNN wrote about who he was even feeding, and 🙂
honestly—just looking at the photo of his... well, let's call it "unimpressive" physique—it killed any spark I had left in me.

So yeah, the whole experiment was dead in the water before it even got off the ground.

Oh, I know that feeling all too well! I actually thought you might have shared a few more, ahem, personal little tidbits. 😁

Now, I don't need him to feed *me*—perish the thought!—but I would absolutely love to get my hands on those "miracle products" of his and run a full analysis. Not orally, obviously.

I’m not really the type to spend my afternoons digging through academic journals or dense scientific papers just to get into the weeds of the details.

Well, see, that's exactly where we differ! That's why we actually know what we're talking about here. I’m certainly not going to go wandering over to the New York Times or some high-brow Social Science journal to lecture people, mostly because I don't claim to be an expert in those fields anyway.
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#106 ·
nimbledriver81 said:I honestly thought you had more, uhm, personal info on them! 😁

Nope, just a phone number and an invite to a CNN summit.

Our guy is such a businessman at heart—he clearly loves you as much as the sound of crinkling dollar bills!
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#107 ·
nimbledriver81 said:FANTASTIC. Seriously, just send me one box of your so-called "assistance"—or whatever you want to call it—and I’ll run some tests on it right here in my lab. Once I have the data, I’ll post the results right here on Reddit for everyone to see.
Since you aren't selling anymore...

Look, just because I’m out here arguing that carrots might actually do you some good doesn't mean I'm going to hand you one—or, heaven forbid, sell you one. My medical advice isn't exactly a delivery service, if that makes sense.

Look, I honestly couldn't care less how you manage to track down that carrot—seriously, it’s not my business. You could grow the damn thing in your own backyard, "borrow" one from a neighbor's garden when they aren't looking, hit up a local farmers market, or just swing by a Whole Foods. Whatever works for you, just get it done.

I mean, seriously—who exactly do you think you are to be questioning this? Are we really supposed to take your word over an elite team of experts from UCLA led by a literal Nobel Prize winner? Or better yet, why would anyone disregard the collective oversight of sixty different state health departments and their rigorous testing protocols? It’s a bit much, don't you think?
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#108 ·
frozenlynx33 said:I mean, honestly—who do you think you are to be questioning this? Seriously! Are you really suggesting that your personal opinion carries more weight than an entire elite team of experts at UCLA, led by a literal Nobel Prize winner? It’s almost comical! You have sixty different state health departments all running their own rigorous checks and balances, working in tandem to ensure everything is above board—and yet, here we are. It’s like trying to argue with the entire scientific community based on a hunch!

And who exactly are you to think I should just take your word for it? Honestly!—I mean, let’s be real here—where is the proof? Where is the credibility? It’s like someone walking up to you on a street corner in New York City and claiming they have the secret formula for the perfect sourdough, and you're just supposed to nod along? Not likely! One has to wonder about the foundation of such claims—it's all about the authority behind the statement, isn't it? So, I have to ask: what makes your perspective any more valid than anyone else's out there?
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#109 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Who are you to think I should actually listen to you?

Are you kidding me right now??

The guy literally TOOK A PHOTO with a Nobel Prize winner! 😲 😲 😲

And you're seriously asking who he is????
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#110 ·
jadesailor14 said:Are you actually blind??

I mean, seriously—the guy literally TOOK A PHOTO with a Nobel Prize winner! 😲 😲 😲

And you’re *really* sitting there asking who he is????

Well, I once grabbed some selfies with Tim Howard and Snoop Dogg back when they were playing for the LA Galaxy—does that count for anything either? 😬
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#111 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Look, we actually *do* know what we’re talking about here. I’m not going to waltz into some high-brow outlet like CNN or try to lecture people over at a Social Science department—mostly because, let’s be honest, I don't claim to be an expert in those fields.

At the end of the day, theoretical knowledge means next to nothing if you can't prove it works out in the real world, with actual people.

The results I’m pulling off right now—even if they occasionally outpace my own current understanding—are significant, and I suspect that kind of reality is exactly what gets under your skin. It seems like you’re having a bit of a hard time swallowing that. 😉 🙂

I honestly don't get why you're being so resistant to new perspectives. There's a mountain of evidence backing up what I'm saying—there are plenty of people from New York City all the way across the US who serve as living proof. This isn't even about me, though; it's about finding better ways to actually help the people around us.
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#112 ·
nimbledriver81 said:I actually got a photo with Tim Howard and Snoop Dogg back when they were playing for the LA Galaxy! Does that count too? 😬

It just wouldn't add up!

I’m right there with The Dubliners! 🙂
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#113 ·
The topic here is "Alternative Flu Treatments and Boosting Your Immune System," and it’s painfully obvious that certain people are just here to stir the pot... 🤔

Ladies, take the gossip to the DMs.. 🙂 🙂
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#114 ·
frozenlynx33 said:The topic here is "Alternative Flu Treatments and Boosting Immunity," and it’s pretty obvious some people are just trying to stir the pot... 🤔

Hey guys, let's take the gossip to the DMs instead! 🙂 🙂

You're actually the one who started it! 🙂
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#115 ·
frozenlynx33 said:Knowledge doesn't mean much if you can't actually prove it works out in the real world, on actual people.

Oh, really? Well—if I may be so bold—I’ve tested my own expertise on myself first, and then moved on to others. And unlike you, I did it all for free! Plus, I think I come across as a bit more convincing—maybe it's because I'll eventually find a better photographer.

The results I'm pulling off right now far outweigh the knowledge I currently possess—and honestly, I suspect that kind of thing is just irritating to someone like you, making it quite difficult for you to accept. 😉 🙂

WOW! 🙏 I am absolutely speechless here...

And me with The Dubliners

Just you wait—I'm heading to a Depeche Mode concert in three months. Then, once I get that perfect photo with Dave... 😍
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#116 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Hold on a second—I’m actually heading to a Depeche Mode concert in three months! I can already see myself grabbing a photo with Dave. 😍

Maybe I will too!
My kids keep trying to get me to listen to their stuff, but honestly? This is the music that defined my youth!
It would be so incredibly cool to take my mom to a concert!

Oh my gosh, seriously, your photo looks absolutely stunning! It’s honestly on a whole different level.
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#117 ·
jadesailor14 said:Perhaps I might, too—though I can't say for certain just yet!
The kids keep trying to talk me into it—you know how they are, always pushing for the latest thing—but honestly? This is the soundtrack of MY youth! It’s just part of my DNA at this point.
It would honestly be such an incredible experience—just absolutely stellar—to take Mom to a concert! I mean, can you even imagine? It’s one of those things that sounds simple on paper, but when you really sit down and think about the sheer joy of seeing her face light up when the music starts... well, it’s everything. Just a total dream scenario!

Honestly, I have to say—your photo is just immeasurably more beautiful! It’s truly on another level—there's no even comparing them!

🥳 Hey there, hey! Just checking in while I tackle this pile of paperwork—honestly, it feels like I'm drowning in files here!
steelstag4 steelstag4 Active Member
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#118 ·
The chaos has finally died down, so I’m going to jump in here with two quick questions.
1. What actually qualifies as white tea?
2. And what's with all this hype surrounding white versus brown sugar?

I’d really appreciate it if someone could walk me through these silly amateur questions without tearing me to shreds. Thanks 😁
steelstag4 steelstag4 Active Member
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#119 ·
Thank god for Google 😁

So, regarding white tea:
http://www.kucazelenogcaja.com/index.php?kateg=3
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#120 ·
steelstag4 said:2. So, what’s this whole hype about white vs. brown sugar?

Are you seriously suggesting brown sugar is somehow "healthier"? As far as I can tell, white sugar is just processed brown sugar... I highly doubt those little impurities in the brown stuff are actually vital minerals or vitamins. I mean... if you toss three cubes of sugar into your cocoa, you're basically getting less sucrose if you go with brown instead of white. It won't even taste as sweet. And if you want it to actually taste good, you’ll end up adding another half cube or a full cube just to compensate, which puts you right back at the same amount of sucrose anyway... So, how exactly is brown sugar better? I honestly don't get it. 😉 To all the brown sugar fans out there: prove me wrong! Honestly, though, I can barely even remember what raw sugar looks like anymore! 😁 I mostly just encounter it in pre-made stuff, like chocolate bars or sodas...

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