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mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#61 ·
"Maybe the preacher has an answer for my girls? I see he's quite intrigued by them"

I can't really run a proper analysis on this based on hearsay; we'd need to look at this "issue" much more closely... 😁

"That bread actually has a lower caloric density, which leads to feeling fuller—since your stomach is physically full—while providing less actual fuel for the body..."

- That sense of fullness happens because plant fibers swell up in the stomach to take up volume, while simultaneously scrubbing the intestinal lining and the digestive tract, which helps optimize how nutrients from other foods reach your cells and actually feed them.. 🙂
(plant fibers don't have nutritional value)

"The functional capacity of the digestive system declines as we age, which is why older adults deal with digestive issues more frequently.
The fundamental job of the digestive system is to ensure the body gets a steady supply of water, nutrients, electrolytes, and other vital components. Digestion starts right in the mouth, moves through the esophagus, stomach, and small intestine, and any undigested matter is eventually expelled via the large intestine. Beyond just breaking down and absorbing food, the digestive organs play an active role in maintaining the body's homeostasis, including water, electrolyte, and acid-base balance. The digestive system also plays a massive part in shaping the immune response. A proper diet and smooth digestion are the prerequisites for the entire body functioning correctly and feeling healthy overall."
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#62 ·
mistybear4 said:"maybe mr. preacher has some advice for my girls? i see they're really getting to him"

Look, I can't exactly perform a deep dive on this "unprecedented" situation without actually looking at the "problem" up close... which, let's be honest, is just a mess... 😁

🙂 🙂 🙂

Like I already said—commenting on my body versus my actual credentials and degree? Yeah, you totally deserve a ban for that. Not to mention your little friend Sandra Hayes88, who, despite being a self-proclaimed feminist, didn't find a single thing wrong with how you were talking to me... 🙂
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#63 ·
rustymoose54 said:...but I just have to brag about my title 🙂 😎

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First you wave them in, and then suddenly everyone else is the problem? 😁
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#64 ·
mistybear4 said:first you wave them all in, and then suddenly we’re the bad guys? .. 😁

So, let me get this straight—you think you're totally justified in claiming my credentials don't matter when we're talking about sugar chemistry, yet somehow I should have just flaunted my chest instead (since I'm a woman)? And apparently, the fact that I used a Smajlic gives you the divine right to be such a jerk?

Honestly, I feel bad for you. Like, how much energy does it actually take to copy-paste all this garbage you dump on us, all for the slim chance of making a few bucks... instead of finding a decent job and doing whatever it is you're actually good at (if that even exists). Maybe go out and work construction... find a girl in real life? But hey, word of advice: if you actually want to land a date, maybe don't lead with your Herbalife pitch. 😉 😁
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active Member
65 messages
joined Nov 2007
#65 ·
Life just isn't the same without bread.
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#66 ·
"So, you’re convinced my degree doesn't matter when we're talking about sugar chemistry."

Maybe you’ve got the whole science of sugar figured out—I’ll give you that much—but you’re still missing a few pieces of the puzzle if you think you have the full picture of nutrition... 😎

"And I suppose it would be easier if I just bragged about my body since I'm a woman? Is that what you're implying because I used an emoji?"

I’ve never had much patience for forced humor, and if you were actually making fun of yourself, then just own the joke instead of treating it like some personal attack... would you honestly rather someone called you dim-witted than commented on you being a woman? 😕
I appreciate women, especially smart ones, though I have zero tolerance for arrogance... 😎

"I truly feel for you. It must take so much effort to copy-paste all this nonsense just to scrape together a few bucks... instead of finding a decent job and doing something you're actually good at, assuming such a thing exists."

You're honestly a trip; I genuinely wonder what you even do with your time here... 😁 🙂 😕
It's touching that you're so concerned about how I spend my energy... 🙂 😂
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#67 ·
mistybear4 said:maybe you’re some kind of sugar guru and know everything there is to know—seriously, hats off to you—but you’re still missing a ton of pieces to the puzzle if you think you actually get the full picture on nutrition... 😎

hold up a sec, are you seriously claiming you know more about diet than I do? 🤣 please, stop embarrassing yourself already 😁
so, tell me, have you finally wrapped your head around the fact that energy value and calorie count are literally the exact same thing?

mistybear4 said:i don't do fake humor, and if you're gonna make a joke at your own expense, then just own it and take the joke for what it is instead of turning it into some big provocation... would you honestly rather someone call you stupid than call you a woman? ... 😕
look, i love women, especially smart ones—though i can't stand arrogant people..

okay, so you're still under the impression that my being a girl matters more to this debate about carbohydrate chemistry than my actual knowledge and all those years I spent in school? 🙏 not even going to mention that I've been forced to learn everything about nutrition since I was a kid... honestly, it's basically defined my entire life path and career choice 🙄

i have no idea where you got the notion that i was making fun of myself 🤔
and i am proud of my degree—dead serious, because i earned it through blood, sweat, and tears. and when you're actually proud of something, you should be able to use emojis on a forum to show that emotion

since there isn't an emoji here that perfectly captures: TOTAL BULLSHIT:, i just picked the one that comes closest 🙂

as for what kind of women you do or don't like, go vent about that in the lonely hearts section... it's got nothing to do with me 🙂
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#68 ·
rustymoose54 said:I won't even go there—it’s not like I haven't been forced to obsess over nutrition since I was a kid, which, looking back, pretty much dictated my entire career path and where I ended up in life. 🙄

I’m genuinely proud of my title, and I mean that—it wasn't handed to me; I earned every bit of it through sheer, exhausting grit. When you actually put in the work to achieve something, you should feel free to use an emoji here and there to show it.

I’m not trying to undermine your hard work or what you know, but having a degree doesn't give you the right to act superior or look down on people who don't have one. Honestly, claiming that a piece of paper makes you more knowledgeable than everyone else just doesn't impress me; I've seen enough people lean on credentials to hide a lack of actual substance. 🙂 ) .. 😁

You can't possibly grasp what I know, just as I have no way of knowing everything you do, so trying to debate this feels like a complete waste of energy. Every single day there’s some new breakthrough regarding nutrition and wellness, and honestly, I might actually be a step ahead of you in that regard since I'm constantly absorbing this data and figuring out how to actually apply it to my life. 😎

The only thing that actually carries any weight here is a real conversation about what you’ve actually achieved through all that nutritional expertise of yours, weighed against the results I've managed to pull off myself... and honestly, that's where the discussion ends.

Honestly, my civil engineering degree doesn't exactly give me the right to lecture some random guy on how things work—truth be told, I don't have a clue what I'm doing either. 😁
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#69 ·
mistybear4 said:Look, I’m not trying to downplay all your hard work or what you know, but having a degree doesn't give you some divine right to act superior and look down on people who don't have one... and thinking that a piece of paper makes you an absolute authority over everyone else? Honestly, that kind of thing doesn't impress me at all—it just feels like 🙂 .. 😁

Poor little guy... you must be seriously burned out if you're getting this worked up over the anatomy of someone you're just talking to on a forum 😁 and honestly, I probably don't even have the patience for this 😉

mistybear4 said:You can't possibly grasp the extent of my knowledge, just like I can't know everything you know, so arguing about who knows more is just a complete waste of breath... every single day there's new research coming out regarding nutrition and health, and in that sense, I might actually be ahead of you because I'm staying current with the latest info and learning how to actually apply it to real life.. 😎

but YOU PROVED RIGHT HERE THAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BASICS, which is why those of us "with degrees" are calling you out 🙄

You're great at copy-pasting, but the second you need to explain something about nutrition or chemistry (which, by the way, you HAVE to master if you want to talk about food), you totally ZAJEBES

You've basically turned this health subforum into a joke that people visit just to laugh at you

Seriously, go read some books and get back to basics first, maybe then one day you'll actually know what you're talking about instead of just lecturing everyone with your sermons.

Honestly, the worst part about your spam posts—aside from the massive lack of actual knowledge—is the ideology you keep trying to push as legitimate "science" and whatever else

And you claim it's all because "you want to help people" 🙂

Help people, my ass 😎
feralbison62 feralbison62 Active Member
54 messages
joined Nov 2005
#70 ·
rustymoose54 said:Poor guy. You must be pretty desperate if you care that much about the chest of someone you're just talking to on a forum😁 and I might not even have boobs😉

but YOU PROVED HERE THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THE BASICS, which is why we "professionals" are tearing into you🙄

You can copy-paste all day, but whenever you actually need to explain something about nutrition or chemistry (which you NEED to understand if you want to talk nutrition), you totally ZAJEBES

You've turned this health subforum into a joke that people only visit to laugh at you.

Seriously, go read some books and learn the fundamentals first, so maybe one day you'll actually know what you're talking about when you try to lecture people.

Honestly, the worst part about your spam posts—aside from the massive ignorance—is the ideology you keep trying to push as legitimate "science."

And all because you "want to help people"🙂

Help my ass.😎

🙏 🙏 🙏
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#71 ·
Poor kid, you must be absolutely fried if you’re getting this worked up over the chest of someone you’re just talking to on a forum—especially when I probably don't even have any curves to speak of.

Maybe you're actually a guy? 😁 😁 😁

But you actually just proved right here that you don't have the slightest clue how the fundamentals work, which is exactly why we—the ones with actual credentials—are coming after you.

Maybe I haven't mastered every single nuance of organic chemistry yet, and sure, there might be some foundational gaps in my knowledge that I haven't fully filled, but what I do know is enough to hold my own in a conversation about nutrition against people hiding behind fancy credentials. Honestly, this whole attitude of yours—this idea that you can't learn a damn thing from me just because I don't have a PhD like you do—is nothing more than pure bullshit, and frankly, it says a lot more about your ego than it does about my intelligence.
Sometimes, if I want to actually get some useful information out of people like you, I find it necessary to push their buttons just to see what sticks. It’s a bit like how I used to have to provoke my old boss at the firm back in Chicago just to get him to admit when he was wrong. 😁

It’s easy enough to just copy and paste someone else's thoughts, but the moment you actually have to explain something about nutrition or chemistry on your own—which, let's be honest, is pretty much a prerequisite if you want to have an actual opinion on diet—you completely ZAJEBES.

I’ve always maintained that you don't need to be a chemist to eat well and stay healthy; you can certainly have an informed opinion on nutrition without needing a PhD in molecular science.
If that were actually true, every chemist out there would be in peak physical condition since they supposedly know everything about how the body works—but we all see how messy reality gets. At the same time, you have people who aren't exactly experts, yet they have enough common sense to trust a solid recommendation, and suddenly they’re clearing up allergies, psoriasis, asthma, or even diabetes. I've seen plenty of cases like that.
It’s not exactly my job to walk everyone through every little detail, but I still find myself trying to make things clear. I end up making mistakes just to give those self-proclaimed experts a reason to get worked up; if I tell them they don't have all the answers, their own ego usually blinds them to what's staring them right in the face. 👎

You’ve basically turned this health subforum into a comedy club where people only drop in to have a good laugh at everyone else.

I have my own thoughts on those people who find everything to be some kind of joke, though I’ve noticed quite a few folks lately who actually seem to possess an open mind—people who don't just sit around waiting to tear someone else down just to manufacture a reputation they haven't actually earned. It's one of those things where some will see it for what it is, and others might eventually catch on, but as the old saying goes, a one-eyed man is king in a land of the blind. 😎

Get some books on sake and dive into the fundamentals of UCI; you might actually want to know what you’re talking about before you start preaching to everyone like some self-appointed guru.

Of course, that’s just my routine—constant learning and staying sharp, because honestly, nobody is going to stop me. I feel like I'm making progress every single day, in every sense of the word. 😁

Honestly, the worst part about your constant spamming isn't just how little you actually know—it's that desperate attempt to frame your specific ideology as some kind of legitimate, scientific truth.

The problem with those self-proclaimed experts is that they walk around thinking they’ve already mastered everything there is to know, completely ignoring the fact that nutritional science evolves every single day. I tend to pull my data from UCLA, which is pretty much the gold standard for nutrition research globally, but since I struggle to distill such complex findings into perfect explanations on the fly, I just rely on the existing literature to do the heavy lifting for me. 🙂
The whole "food as medicine" movement just doesn't sit right with Big Pharma. If everyone actually started eating for their health instead of just masking symptoms, the entire business model for those heavy-duty prescriptions would fall apart. 😕
The whole concept of station feeding isn't just some random idea cooked up by a construction worker; it was actually developed by the most renowned and respected scientists in the field, which is exactly why it carries such scientific weight.

"And all this because you 'want to help people'... yeah, give me a break

Look, you don't even know me, so making claims like that is just pathetic; if you want an actual opinion on who I am, go ask the people who actually know me 😎
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#72 ·
spam, spam, spam

man, you’re so busy being "open-minded" that you completely missed the point—there are countless peer-reviewed journals out there, all with different impact factors, where people spend their entire lives—whether they're grinding through a PhD at some Ivy League school or they're already established professors—just constantly pumping out their research results. And these papers don't just magically appear; they go through rigorous anonymous peer review before they ever see the light of day

to actually get a doctorate and then, you know, actually *survive* in academia, you have to cite thousands upon thousands of those studies, all while doing your own research on top of it... it’s just a never-ending cycle of citing, citing, citing... researching, researching, researching... publishing, publishing, publishing...

honestly, with your total lack of basic science knowledge (don't even get me started on biomedicine) and your pretty obvious inability to think analytically, you wouldn't even be able to wrap your head around these papers if you tried. I mean, hell, even I can't sit down and actually comprehend a paper on particle physics because I didn't go to school for that—I'm not that educated in that field. So, it never even crosses my mind to talk trash about particle physicists, even if, let's face it, like 80% of their work is basically just educated guesswork😁

there are no easy answers here. there are serious people doing serious research, trying to find actual answers... with varying degrees of success, and varying levels of scientific integrity. but you? and people like you, who basically make a living off of people's fear of getting sick by using methods that look a lot like brainwashing? compared to them, you look like some stray dog tied to a post in a rural town, barking hysterically at the ocean and watching these massive ships sail past in the distance... poor thing just keeps yapping away, but you can't break that chain. and the ship just keeps sailing...

god, man, your references, your blatant contempt for actual knowledge, and your complete failure to grasp basic chemistry (let's start there, 😉) just makes you totally unconvincing.

anyway, go buy a book or something and go to UCI!
mistybear4 mistybear4 Active Member
58 messages
joined Nov 2007
#73 ·
rustymoose54 said:There aren't any definitive answers out there; there are just serious people conducting legitimate research, trying to uncover some truth... meeting with varying degrees of success and varying levels of scientific integrity.

We spend all our time debating my existence here, though I'm honestly not sure why, since this forum should really be about "wellness" rather than being centered on me.. 😉

You're right to point out that I don't hold the kind of formal credentials that would put me on equal footing with people like you, but perhaps those titles aren't actually necessary... I might struggle to articulate my claims perfectly, and maybe I shouldn't even bother trying to explain myself to everyone, but I've lived long enough to know how to tell the difference between gold and garbage when it's sitting right in front of me. 😁

Nutrition science might feel like a brand-new frontier to some, but if someone has spent twenty-five years immersed in that field, consistently running studies, they’ve certainly picked up a significant amount of expertise along the way...
Another vital factor, one I consider absolutely decisive, is the way all that knowledge is translated into real-world application, resulting in a continuous stream of new outcomes—health testimonials that have reached roughly 35 million over those twenty-five years... 😛

If I fail to meet your standard of being convincing, then you have every opportunity to look into what this crazy guy mistybear4 is actually talking about, to investigate the people and the results he mentions, to figure out why he's so obsessed, which scientists and Nobel laureates he's referencing, and what lies beneath it all... is it just self-promotion, a sales pitch, or something much more profound? Given your own background and experience, you likely would have recognized the quality of it all long before I ever did. 🙂 😉
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active Member
93 messages
joined Sep 2006
#74 ·
rustymoose54, so, is it actually better to just grab a chocolate fudge sundae with cookies—say, 475 calories—for lunch, when you could instead have a full meal like a bowl of whole grain pasta with seafood, a side salad, and some fruit, which also hits that 475 calorie mark?

I honestly don't get how that could possibly be considered healthy, despite what Kumek claims. He’s out here arguing that sugar is actually good for you... implying that it doesn't matter what we eat or what kind of sugar we use, as long as it's sugar? Everything is healthy? I guess that's one way to look at it.
You didn't even mention the 124 ways sugar wrecks your health:?
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#75 ·
Sandra Hayes88, if you actually bothered to read what Kumek was saying instead of just skimming, you'd realize he never once claimed anything was "equally healthy" or "equally unhealthy"

He was just trying to hammer home the point that any sugar we eat eventually turns into glucose anyway, simple as that...
And honestly, comparing ice cream to a full dinner when talking about "health" is just a ridiculous comparison. I mean, the meal you mentioned has way more food groups in it than a pint of Ben & Jerry's does—it’s diverse, right? Plus, if you look at the actual math, the fat content is heavily skewed toward the ice cream side. So, your question is totally pointless—it's like asking if it's better to have a dead Saddam Hussein or a living George W. Bush 😬

btw, I have never in my life sat down and polished off a MASSIVE plate of pasta—whole wheat or regular, doesn't matter—all in one go. So, no, I'm not some kind of lumberjack, for crying out loud. It’s probably no wonder you’re struggling with nutrition if you’re just slamming huge amounts of carbs into your system at once...
As for that link you sent me, I can't even get the page to load. Apparently, the site blocks entry to anyone who fits the description mistybear4 gave regarding women being more interested in showing off their chests than having actual brains. Access denied. 🙂
Anthony Rodriguez58 Anthony Rodriguez58 Active Member
93 messages
joined Sep 2006
#76 ·
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dustycanyon6 says:
Wheat flour acts just like sugar—it spikes your insulin. What next, you going to tell me sugar is healthy too?
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Kumek says:
Of course it's healthy, you uneducated genius. Monosaccharides are the primary fuel source; insulin exists specifically to shuttle sugars into cells because they are the cell's main nutrient. Without blood sugar, you starve—you die. Your insulin spikes after every meal. And any kind of flour will spike your insulin because they're all packed with polysaccharides that break down into monosaccharides during digestion, entering the bloodstream and being pulled into cells by insulin to create energy.

PHYSIOLOGY - Guyton. dustycanyon6, please, no more of this nonsense.😉


Look, sorry, but Kumek actually said sugar is HEALTHY.
By the way, rustymoose54, you’re living proof that a degree doesn't equate to intelligence... It's a shame they don't teach people how to communicate with basic respect at that university, even if they aren't on your level of "brilliance," or how to avoid being such a pompous snob.👋
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#77 ·
Sandra Hayes88 said:Look, I'm sorry, but Kumek literally said sugar is HEALTHY.
Anyway, rustymoose54, you’re living proof that a degree doesn't mean everything... it’s honestly a shame they don't teach basic human decency or how to talk to people without being a total condescending snob—even if they aren't on your level of "genius"—in school. 👋

Where exactly did I claim to be a genius? But hey, unlike you and a few other "intellectuals" on this board, I actually think people underestimate how much education matters.

If you actually cared about being educated, maybe you'd finally grasp that GLUCOSE IS SUGAR.

And you know, that stuff your body absolutely needs just to keep your brain and organs from shutting down? You finally learned what that is yet?

It's GLUCOSE, honey. And that bowl of whole wheat pasta you love so much? What does it turn into in the end? GLUCOSE. For crying out loud, Kumek and I didn't just make that up—it's just science.

ps. Funny how you conveniently skipped over my point about breastfeeding... 😉
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
82 messages
joined Dec 2005
#78 ·
rustymoose54 says:
If you actually cared about being educated, maybe you'd finally grasp that GLUCOSE IS SUGAR.

And what about the stuff essential for your brain and organs to even work... did you ever catch on to that part?

It's GLUCOSE, honey. And that bowl of whole wheat pasta you're eating? What does it turn into eventually? GLUCOSE. For crying out loud, Kumek and I didn't just make that up... it's just how it works.

People here are just splitting hairs. Honestly, it feels like you and Kumek are using some kind of "narrow" semantics to try and lecture the rest of us, thinking we'll just swallow whatever you say. You're intentionally leaving everything else out just to "prove" your point, all so the debate—sorry, the argument—goes your way.

Sure, blood glucose is vital for staying alive, and yeah, glucose is technically a type of sugar. But for heaven's sake, we aren't talking about that kind of sugar here... we're talking about sucrose. And I don't mean sucrose in the bloodstream (is that even possible?), I mean consuming sucrose (which is what I meant when I brought up sugar in the first place). Look, I'm no expert, but isn't there such a thing as a glycemic index? Doesn't sucrose have a much higher glycemic index than whole wheat pasta? So, does it really not matter whether we eat sucrose or whole grain pasta?

Besides, we get plenty of glucose from all sorts of different foods to give us enough energy without having to go out and consume extra sucrose or other types of sugar.
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
182 messages
joined Jun 2006
#79 ·
dustycanyon6 said:It’s all just apples and oranges over here... Honestly, I don't know—you and driftinggull13 are out here playing these semantic games, trying to lecture the rest of us like we're too dim to see through it. You think we're just gonna swallow whatever you're selling? Please. You deliberately leave out everything else just so you can "prove" your little point—all so the debate—pardon me, let's call it what it actually is, a total shouting match—goes your way...

Look, blood glucose is obviously essential for staying alive—no argument there—but we aren't talking about that specific glucose, right? We’re talking about sugar... specifically sucrose. And I don't even mean sucrose floating around in your bloodstream (is that even a thing? I don't know...), I mean actually eating the stuff—which is what I meant when I was rambling about sugar earlier. I’m definitely no expert here, mind you, but isn't there this whole concept called the glycemic index? And doesn't sucrose have a way higher GI than something like whole wheat pasta? So, if that's the case... does it really even matter if we're slamming sucrose or just sticking to the whole grain stuff? Or am I just overthinking things again...

Plus, when you look at all the different types of food out there, we end up getting plenty of glucose just from that—enough energy to actually function without having to shove extra sucrose or any other kind of nasty sugar down our throats... which, honestly, sounds like a win to me.

It all kicked off because McGregor was busy messing around with those pears and apples... just total chaos from the start...

By the way, having actual sucrose in your bloodstream isn't even a thing—it just breaks down into glucose and fructose before it even gets a chance... honestly, people get this stuff so wrong all the time.

If you actually sit down and read this whole damn "discussion"... 🙄 Everything else aside—including that whole mess with my nipples—maybe then you'll finally get why I was screaming my head off...

Of course Sahara spikes your blood sugar way faster than the starch in whole wheat pasta—especially since all that fiber in the whole grain stuff just slows down the absorption process anyway... but hey, we haven't even touched on that yet.

See, that’s exactly why I go straight for the pure Glucose whenever my hypoglycemia starts acting up... honestly, nothing else works when you're crashing like that... 😉
And when I’m running low on glucose... I just go straight for the sucrose... 🙂

Look, not everyone out there is overweight, and honestly, not everyone is struggling with insulin resistance either... seriously. There are plenty of people who aren't obsessed with orthorexia—you know, that whole thing where you're terrified of a single carb—who just live perfectly healthy, normal lives without some doom-and-gloom preacher breathing down their necks telling them the apocalypse is coming... all while trying to hawk some miracle supplement that supposedly "neutralizes" the toxic effects of stuff like Glucose. It’s just exhausting...

So, look—you get a quick spike in blood glucose... which means your body just dumps a bunch of insulin all at once. Honestly? There’s nothing even sketchy about that part... it's just how things work.

Look, let's get one thing straight—you still need insulin, and Lucy needs it too, even if you aren't eating a single damn thing... I just don't see the logic in anyone stuffing their face with massive amounts of whole grain bread just to chase an energy boost. Like, seriously? You can get that exact same result by just eating a way smaller amount of white bread instead... it’s not rocket science... 😲 ...if you toss it in with some fresh veggies... 😉

And all of that without any of that extra insulin spiking—which is exactly what you want to avoid if you don't want to pack on the pounds... I mean, let's be real, insulin is an anabolic hormone, so if you've got too much glucose floating around, your body is just gonna Store Fat immediately...

It’s really that simple—just eat less... honestly... 😉
driftinggull13 driftinggull13 Active Member
61 messages
joined Apr 2020
#80 ·
I don't mean to be rude here, but honestly, it feels like you two are just being plain dense... after all this explaining, it’s like nothing is sinking in, and on top of that, you're actually getting offended by someone having an education.
Of course glucose is healthy, and water is healthy, and the food we eat is healthy. But just like anything else, too much of a good thing is bad. You two are completely confusing the quantity of something with its actual health value.
SUGAAAAAR OR GLUUUUUZZUUUUU IS HEEEEEALTHEEEEEEY. SUCROSE IS HEEEEEALTHEEEEEEY. Sandra Hayes88, those whole grains and fruits of yours basically boil down to GLUUUUUZZUUUUU just like Sahara... is that clear enough for you now? The only difference is that the concentration of glucose in sugar (table sugar or sucrose) is way higher, but you aren't even eating nearly as much of it as you are some bulky whole grain bread or whatever other high-volume fodder you consume.
Sucrose is half glucose and half fructose. Once it hits your system, one molecule of sucrose immediately breaks down into one molecule of glucose and one of fructose. It’s exactly the same as if you sweetened something with half a teaspoon of glucose and half a teaspoon of fructose. I mean, can this get any clearer?
Read "sucrose" as "glucose" for your sake, dustycanyon6. Whatever amount of sucrose you have, you have that same amount of glucose, so suddenly glucose is O.K. but sucrose is unhealthy... unbelievable.
The logic you're using is absolutely beyond me... one second I think you finally get it, and the next, it's like you haven't understood a single word.
There is zero difference between that glucose and the glucose found in whole grains.
Jesus, how many times do we have to say this? A pastry from McDonald's provides the exact same glucose as whole grains. Do you two even understand what's going on at all?

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