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Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1281 ·
Hey everyone, does anyone know how I can actually get my hands on that ointment? Thanks in advance.👍
Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1282 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:From what I’ve seen—and my dad went through pretty much every detox out there, every diet you can imagine, even trying different spiritual healers (the most successful was some guy from overseas, just a small container of white grease, nothing fancy, and he stayed clear for six months before it flared again)—is that psoriasis eventually comes back just as bad. The most natural relief is probably heading to the coast for some sun, but even that only helps a little bit. Just to be clear, he dealt with this for about 30 years and hasn't had a single flare since 2000.
I honestly wish someone could just reach out to me here, grab the ointment, stay consistent with it for a few months, and then let them tell my story instead of me.

How can I get my hands on that cream? Thanks.👍
Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1283 ·
So, how am I supposed to get to you, Michael Ramos3?
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1284 ·
Send him a private message
...
Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1285 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:just send him a DM

Well, I did. Thanks.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1286 ·
Your PM settings are turned off. Just head to your profile and toggle them back on.
I'll reply to you here instead.

Chris Morris6 said:Have you tried that ointment yet? Thanks.

I haven't, nor would I. If you look through the last few pages, it’s clear that nobody who tried that stuff actually found relief—one person even ended up in the hospital due to an allergic reaction...

So, one shouldn't take everything written online at face value.

Ultimately, the choice is yours... good luck.🙂

Best,
Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1287 ·
Chris Morgan67 said:Your private messaging isn't working because you turned it off. Just go to your profile settings and toggle it back on.
I'll just answer you here instead.

I wouldn't do it, and honestly, I don't think you should. If you actually bother to read the last few pages, you'll see this ointment hasn't helped anyone who tried it. One guy even ended up in the hospital because of an allergic reaction to the stuff.

So, maybe don't believe everything you read online.

But hey, it's your call... good luck, I guess.🙂

Best,

I'm pretty sure everything is enabled on my end... give it another shot.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1288 ·
Chris Morris6 said:I think everything is enabled on my end... try sending it again.

Hey.

Was away for the weekend so I wasn't online. Didn't see your messages, even though I got them. Look, you've actually blocked incoming PMs, so there's no way for me to reply to you. Fix your settings so we can talk.

Later.
Gregory Mendoza3 Gregory Mendoza3 Active Member
79 messages
joined May 2007
#1289 ·
Listen up, folks...
I’ve been reading a ton of controversial takes regarding this ointment and Michael Ramos3 lately...

I’m about 90% sure I had an allergic reaction to the stuff!

I only applied it four times over a pretty large area—arms, legs, and my backside...
Which means, cumulatively speaking, I definitely absorbed way less of it than the people on here who have been slathering it on for a month straight, no matter how small the surface area they cover. Plus, they’ve been inhaling those fumes way more than I have over this period. So, there's a much higher chance we're looking at a simple allergy rather than actual poisoning.

You can have an allergic reaction to absolutely anything!

Look, I’m not out here defending the ointment, nor am I attacking it!

And just like that, I’m not defending Michael Ramos3, and I’m not coming for him either!

I’m not pointing fingers at anyone for what happened to me!

Maybe Michael Ramos3 is exaggerating a few things, especially since he doesn't exactly have a medical degree when it comes to psoriasis, but I figure he's just emotionally attached to the cream because he saw it actually helping people—especially his dad—and that's why he sticks up for it so hard, and I honestly believe that's the case...

As for the money side of things or the "motivation," I don't know if it's even classy to bring it up given the price isn't even that crazy... they probably make a tiny bit of profit on top of covering the cost of materials, but don't forget that someone actually has to put in the manual labor to turn those raw ingredients into an ointment... maybe they walk away with like ten bucks per jar, which you guys might claim is insufficient profit to be "getting rich" or whatever, but still...

The ointment will probably help some people while causing issues for others, just like me...
It's the same deal with drugs coming out of Big Pharma; some work, some have side effects, some have contraindications....

Regarding Michael Ramos3's faith in the Lord... don't judge people, because nobody besides the Lord
knows his heart or his faith!!!
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1290 ·
Hey.

Where do I even start?
The sheer amount of hypocrisy and envy here is beyond me.
FIRST: Regarding korkira222.
At the exact moment when this forum's self-appointed moral compass—who somehow mistakenly thinks he's an expert advisor to all of us—decides to weigh in on my suggestion, here's the deal. I suggested korkira222 keep applying the ointment if the eczema cleared up. We had precise agreements made with my father and me, including clear terms and guarantees from our side. We didn't claim we tested the ointment on this specific condition, but we guaranteed there wouldn't be bad side effects.
Mr. korkira222 accepted and started the therapy. Unfortunately, right at the beginning, he reported visible progress, and then the condition just receded on its own. That’s why I suggested he keep applying it, since the rash always pops up in the same spot.
It seems you guys were just waiting for someone to fail so you could play wise guys.
In my opinion, that isn't decent or human.

SECOND: Where was all this "trained moral conscience" when Gregory Mendoza3 was asking for info and wanting to try snake venom? Why didn't you lash out verbally back then—like you are now toward me—to explain to the man that he shouldn't be using unregistered snake venoms that lack certification? Even if it's natural, it can kill him, or as our moderator Kolomast noted regarding weapon preservation.

THIRD: I am not influencing anyone, directly or indirectly, to take the ointment. So why are you all influencing those who have already taken it and are using it? You're creating anxiety and attacking me now that we have the first person who cleared up completely (though we'll see how long it stays that way; I maintain it's permanent),
Don't get envious just because they're seeing results. Leave them alone to finish their therapy without this psychological interference.
It's funny how nobody says a single word about copperviper102. Not one question, no explanation, no praise, no hope that it stays gone permanently. Not a single word of support for silentheron25, who has started to waver and doubt, getting the wrong impression that he has to be fully cured in 32 days, even though he reports massive progress where certain areas are totally clear and others just have faint marks left.
None of you will utter a word of support for his effort. You won't support what HE personally decided to try, yet you also don't judge him directly for using potent allergens and unregistered substances.

To me, this is just being out of touch and hypocritical. If any of you actually believe in the Lord, whom I mention so often, then I trust that the same Lord will act justly toward me and everyone else.
copperviper102 copperviper102 Member
38 messages
joined May 2007
#1291 ·
Hey everyone,

I tried to put together a little update over the weekend, but for some reason, it didn't go through... I had to jump off my computer so maybe I just messed up the formatting or something...😬 Anyway, I want to welcome Gregory Mendoza3 back, and man, I really hope he never has to deal with that kind of psoriasis flare-up or that insane allergic reaction to anything ever again. Look, I’m not here to get into a debate with anyone about the ointment, so I’ll just stick to describing my own situation, since at the end of the day, everyone has to make their own call on whether to use this stuff or not. A couple of days before the weekend, I decided to stop using the ointment entirely—meaning I stopped applying it down there. I wasn't sure if that was the right move, but honestly, I couldn't even tell what color my skin was anymore, so I figured I'd quit and just hope for the best. I was getting pretty burnt out from all the constant application and scrubbing, and since it’s been over 35 days now, I decided to pull the plug on the scrubbing part too. Since then, I’ve just been using regular body lotion, and my natural skin tone is slowly coming back down there, while everything else seems totally fine already. So far, nothing has flared back up since I stopped (I think it’s been over two weeks since I stopped treating the first spot above my forehead, and I haven't touched my scalp in about 10 days).... please don't come for me about the exact dates because I really don't feel like digging through my old posts to check when I stopped what, but you guys can look them up if you're that interested—this is just how things look to me right now. Regarding what happened with Gregory Mendoza3, I have to say that I personally didn't have any side effects or allergic reactions; my only real issue with the ointment/resin was the smell👎 and having to scrub in the morning (I love my sleep, so having to get up an hour early just to wash up before heading to work was a total pain😁). The scent isn't absolutely unbearable, but you definitely need a bit of time to get used to it (if my wife managed to survive it, and she has an incredibly sensitive nose, then anyone can... though maybe not everyone, as Gregory Mendoza3 unfortunately proved to his own detriment). So, that’s the gist of my status and how I've been using the ointment. My take on the stuff is positive, simply because it worked for me (and I didn't suffer any side effects, at least nothing I could see). But the keyword for everything is "for now," and that’s pretty much all I’m willing to say. I don't know how things will play out, but even if my psoriasis comes back in a week, a month, or a year, I won't hold a grudge against Michael Ramos3 or his dad because I knew the risks I was taking. Honestly, I never expected someone to have a reaction as severe as Gregory Mendoza3 did, but even if it had happened to me earlier in my treatment, I probably would have still given it a shot! What happened to Gregory Mendoza3 should serve as a wake-up call for anyone planning to use the ointment to think long and hard and be ready to monitor their own body very closely. That's all from me; I'll keep posting updates about our little nightmare with you guys, but I'll leave the decision of whether to use this stuff to each individual person.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1292 ·
continued....
keeping this post from getting too long.

People are attacking me, saying I haven't updated you on Octom's status, claiming I'm "avoiding reality" and trying to protect ointment sales.

Do you honestly think I was hoping Octom would never—God forbid—get out of the hospital? Or that I wouldn't want him to write about what he’s going through once his conscience allows it? If you want to believe that about me, fine, say it. But then take responsibility for making such baseless, illogical claims, instead of hypocritically accusing me of "avoiding reality."
There's another thing: if I had actually posted a formal report on him, people would be attacking me just like they are now, claiming he's my clone and we're working together to scam you all.

Regarding Octom's accident, it’s strange to me that nobody remembers you guys were suggesting he go to the hospital even before he started using the ointment. There were signs his condition was already critical on its own, and he likely would have ended up in the hospital regardless. Also, did anyone notice Octom wrote that they treated him with antibiotics, which almost entirely cleared up his skin issues? What does an antibiotic have to do with poisoning?
And since there are no official results yet, why are you all jumping to conclusions and judging that he was poisoned by the ointment? Just wait for Octom to release the official results, then we can talk.
I stand by my word: there isn't a single known allergen in this ointment, not in scientific literature and not in folk medicine either.
Why are you creating a false narrative among forum members and influencing those who are undecided?
If this ointment were packed with allergens that could accumulate in the brain through inhalation—especially in the tiny amounts Octom used—what would happen to Korkirin's kid, who is allergic to the wind blowing through their town or being near a large olive grove?
What would happen to copperviper102, who applied it to his mucous membranes for 30 days?
Look, "I" have been using it for a month without a single complaint, and Mark Fox44 has used it for 5-6 days with zero issues.
What kind of lab would I need to manufacture substances this potent without poisoning myself? If I actually had that kind of money and a high-end lab, I’d have enough cash to register a drug, open a private dermatology clinic, and charge you $1,000 per treatment.

You accuse me of living off this, calling you all nothing more than "test subjects" and a cheap advertising platform.
My father is a retiree on a decent pension; he worked as an electrician in the military.
As for me, I work my professional job every day at my local shop. I don't even have time for the good stuff—like spending time with my family and kids—because I'm clocked in from 9 to 6 every single day.
You aren't the first to use this. We've been doing this for seven years, and hundreds of people have been healed.
The only thing I want to brag about is a few young kids who still call my father "Gramps" and come to see him several times a year. Because of my father and this ointment, those kids finally had a reason to smile after years of bitterness and suffering.

You claim I get angry at people who doubt the ointment.
But what are you doing?
You're getting angry at me just because I have the ointment and people are successfully using it.

continued
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1293 ·
Give us more

Who on earth is actually going to buy your ointment anyway...
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1294 ·
The "expert advisor for us all" is accusing me of splitting this forum into two camps: those who use the ointment and those who don't.

It’s a natural divide, and the numbers back it up.
From the day this forum started (first post was March 3, 2003) until I showed up,
43 months had passed, and in that time, 29 pages of the forum
were written.

Since I registered, 4 months have gone by, and in that window, 25 pages of the forum
have been posted.
In short, in just 4 months, we've gained one solid user who has never once been anything less than 100% clear. (Keep in mind, you have to distinguish between people who follow strict regimens and stay mostly clear with just a few spots, waiting for a flare-up caused by stress or timing, versus someone else).
Regarding all these facts (don't try to defend the indefensible),
Chris Morgan67 is suggesting today that we stop discussing me and that it's supposedly because my ointment hasn't helped anyone—or worse, that it nearly killed someone.
The reality is that Chris Morgan67 and his little circle haven't actually helped anyone substantively either, aside from handing out tea recipes, keeping journals, and offering advice that doesn't move the needle much beyond maintaining whatever results people already had—results that likely don't depend on their advice anyway (this should be officially investigated with official data if we want to talk about it).

It’s pretty obvious they are attacking me in coordinated waves of posts.
I said before I wouldn't get dragged into more arguments, but this is going nowhere.
If my posts bother you, don't read them and don't comment on them.
If someone doesn't want to use the ointment they've already picked up, they can return it and get a full refund.
If someone is hesitant (wanted to take it but changed their mind), fine. I'm here every day; I'm not going to force anyone to use something just to poison them.
I won't release the formula, and I've already explained why.
If you refuse to use it because of that, fine. Don't pressure me to publish the ingredients (which you couldn't verify anyway, other than what I've already stated: it's been tested to ensure there are no toxins, bacteria, or heavy metals, and is safe for use). Wouldn't you only want to see the formula if you were actually planning to use it?
I'm keeping the formula private for purely commercial reasons. If that's how you see it, then maybe you're the only ones who actually understand me. I want to make a million dollars off this ointment, so obviously, I'm not giving you the recipe so you can go out and make a million too.
If certain people think that way, I don't see why they're attacking me, because logically, that's just how it works.
Ventilate the room if it smells; apply it bit by bit if that's what you think is right. Honestly, I don't even get the obsession with using plastic wrap to reduce evaporation and help skin penetration.
I could repeat the instructions and tips, but they've all been written multiple times on previous pages.
I said at the start: people in severe condition with sensitive skin should apply the ointment during the first few days and watch closely for any reactions.
I've personally said that, aside from itching and increased pain (which Gregory Mendoza3 experienced) in rare cases, there are no contraindications. People have applied it to bloody cracks, and women use it on their genitals. Well, if they weren't poisoned and managed to endure it, I don't know what else I can say to everyone.

If you don't have the will to be cured, then there is no cure for you, regardless of ointments, modern medicine, prayers, or anything else. (A medical consultant could explain that professionally).

P.S. From a private conversation with Gregory Mendoza3, I learned he hasn't completely ruled out using the ointment later; he just wants to wait for the official results of those intensive tests first.
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1295 ·
Healed

I managed to clear my skin on my own. I went from having psoriasis covering 90% of my body to less than 5% today
.
If I had even posted photos of my worst flare-ups compared to how I look now—even if I made up some story about using a magic ointment—99% of people on this forum would be rushing to buy it because the improvement is so dramatic
.
And wouldn't you know it, I did fine without you or your "help"
.
Besides, you’re a grown man, and as such, you need to be prepared for criticism and questions
. The bottom line is this:
a) A few users have seen improvements, but they only had a few patches to begin with
b) One person suffered an allergic reaction to your salve and ended up in the hospital
c) You come across like a bottom-tier door-to-door salesman, trying to convince us how great your product is

If you think I don't have the right to be critical or voice my opinion—grow up
.
👋
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1296 ·
So far, nobody has reported an official allergic reaction to my ointment.
These are just assumptions, and adults shouldn't be judging others based on unverified speculation—that's what kids do.

Grow up.

Regards,
Chris Morgan67 Chris Morgan67 Member
49 messages
joined Jul 2007
#1297 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:So far, no one has reported an official allergic reaction to my ointment.
These are just assumptions, and adults shouldn't judge others based on unverified claims—that's what children do.

Just as adults shouldn't trust a stranger based on unverified assumptions...😉

Well, not all five of us. I’ll grow up, you’ll grow up, and I truly wish you success with your business.👍

As for any further discussions with you, you're on my ignore list...
EOD
Chris Morris6 Chris Morris6 Newcomer
8 messages
joined May 2007
#1298 ·
Who am I supposed to trust here?😕
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1299 ·
Chris Morris6 said:Who can we actually trust around here?😕

It just makes sense!

Let's take a breath and cool things down a bit!
My internet is being super slow today, so please bear with me—it's tough being a poor moderator when the connection won't cooperate!
Thanks so much! 😁
urbanbadger53 urbanbadger53 Newcomer
5 messages
joined May 2007
#1300 ·
The thread is turning serious again...

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