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rapidpanther41 rapidpanther41 Member
47 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1561 ·
The absolute last thing I’ve been using—and honestly, it actually works—is this "cien bodicare" Hand & Nail cream Oliva I stumbled upon at Walmart. For a 125 ml tube, you're looking at $2.75. It’s got this mix of beeswax, Vitamin E, and olive oil, plus some Allantoin to soothe things out... oh, and it's PEG-free and dermatologically tested, too. I've basically been slathering it on every single spot where my psoriasis acts up.
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1562 ·
I honestly wonder what it’s going to take for you people to actually consider something new or "alternative" if it might actually help you.

no hidden ads here 😉
we get it, we aren't stupid
thanks, jadesailor14 🙂
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1563 ·
I'm posting it just like I always do,

BUT YOU CAN'T STOP ME FROM TALKING.

Honestly, I can't tell if we're supposed to be discussing flowers and trees on this forum, or if everyone is just meant to shut up while a select few control the conversation with their own little inside jokes.

Sending my regards to jadesailor14 once again.
goldenstag213 goldenstag213 Member
32 messages
joined Jan 2007
#1564 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:God help you and good day to you all.

It is truly astounding how some people simply refuse to learn anything new or useful.
Why do you immediately attack a man the moment he appears? How could you possibly know right away that his intention is to deceive you?

Are you perhaps clairvoyant?

It is quite staggering to see certain members chime in only during instances like this—when a new member arrives—only to either immediately discourage him by claiming his condition is a cruel, incurable disease with no remedy, or to condemn him outright after he has barely posted a single word.
You attack the man, claiming his motive is profit. WELL, WHAT IF IT IS?!!!!
What is the objective of the manufacturer of Dovonex cream? What is the objective of the manufacturer of NIVEA cream? Is it to make us beautiful, or is it to allow them to turn a profit? Why has no one bothered to ask that question?
Perhaps they use those funds to finance terrorist groups, or to treat their own sick child, or maybe they use it for personal vices, or even to build a church; we cannot know for sure, but we *can* know that they provide a product that meets our needs and does the job for us. What are we to do in that case? This is a matter of morality and ethics.
And so, I call upon the members not to engage in public, false moralizing.

What if it turns out after a few months that the man was being sincere?

"Judge not, lest ye be judged"—that is an idea from around the year 2000 (attributed to a thinker very well known to humanity).

Let us greet the man and his intentions; let us allow ourselves to get to know him, and it will be quite easy to discern his true motives and become convinced of what he says. His greatest condemnation will come if it turns out that what he offers doesn't work. If that happens, he will surely depart very quickly on his own. But let us also consider his reward if he is telling the truth.

With faith in the Lord,

Michael Ramos3, you have been present on this forum for a long time and that is wonderful; some members have already stepped forward and mentioned having good results with your cream, which is even better, but please, do not stand in defense of something that defies common sense.
Look, rowdyviper99 shows up for the first time claiming to have a cure, even going so far as to say 80% of his body was affected. In my case, 20% of my body is affected, and I can see at least a few spots in every single photo in my family albums.
I merely asked the gentleman if he had any proof that he actually suffered from psoriasis in the first place; besides, I told him that even now he has a few spots and that the skin where the psoriasis passed is slightly darker. So, I fail to see the issue with him taking a photo and showing it. However, since he hasn't responded at all following my post, it leads me to believe he was just selling smoke.
Let’s be realistic: no one would be happier than me to have something heal my psoriasis, but I want to share it with everyone based on arguments and actual evidence.
And one more thing: I am coming to the city on business during the first month, so I will reach out to you; I'll take your ointment and use it, and I will photograph the changes every single day. If it helps me, I will post everything and bring you a mountain of business (someone else tried this once but never reached out again).
I want to remind everyone that all genuine members of this forum have only one goal: to assist in the healing or, God willing, the total recovery from PSORIASIS. Everyone else who jumps in for the first and only time is simply a manipulator.
P.S.
No one is reporting anything regarding the group that started using the ointment and tea from Smith. Please, speak up—even if there are no results—so we know not to waste our time and money.
Gerald Johnson Gerald Johnson Newcomer
4 messages
joined Oct 2008
#1565 ·
About 7 or 8 years ago, I tried Head & Shoulders for the first time—big mistake. By the very next day, my scalp psoriasis flared up hard. My dermatologist ended up writing me a prescription for this specific cream; you can't just grab it off a shelf at a drugstore, they actually have to compound it at the pharmacy. That little box of cream arrived around $27. After about a month, the psoriasis cleared up, and it hasn't come back since 👍
steelseal13 steelseal13 Member
26 messages
joined Mar 2007
#1566 ·
goldenstag213 said:P.S.
Hey everyone—is anyone actually using that ointment and tea combo from Smith? I haven't heard a single peep from anyone who has started on it lately. What's the deal? Please, jump in and let us know how it's going—even if you aren't seeing any results at all. It would be great to know so we don't end up wasting our precious time and hard-earned cash on something that isn't working!

I started using his products back on September 21st—but honestly, given how incredibly intense that ointment smells, I had to stop applying it pretty quickly. I just couldn't deal with being around my coworkers at the office while smelling like that!🙄 ...but honestly, I’ve been sipping this tea constantly—just all the time—and I can say with a full sense of "moral responsibility" that my skin is about 50% better all over, and on my hands, it’s improved by as much as 70%... since I haven't touched any other kind of treatment lately, I’m pretty sure this is all thanks to Smith's tea.🙏
Maria Chavez55 Maria Chavez55 Active Member
56 messages
joined Feb 2008
#1567 ·
steelseal13 said:I started using his products on September 21st. Honestly, the ointment smells way too strong, so I stopped using it immediately because I couldn't face my coworkers at the office. 🙄...but I've been drinking the tea constantly, and I can say with total confidence that my body is about 50% better, and my hands are up to 70% improved. Since I haven't used any other treatments since then, I'm certain it's all thanks to Smith's tea.🙏

Where can I get this?
steelseal13 steelseal13 Member
26 messages
joined Mar 2007
#1568 ·
Maria Chavez55 said:Where can I actually get my hands on this?

I just sent you a PM.

Best regards,
Timothy Jackson6 Timothy Jackson6 Member
16 messages
joined Feb 2008
#1569 ·
Hey guys, has anyone here hit up a public pool or maybe one of those spa resorts lately—you know, just for the hell of it, hanging out with the family or a group of friends? Do they actually let people dealing with psoriasis swim in these spas? I’m asking because I was thinking about taking my wife away for a weekend getaway to a resort, but I really don't want us to show up only to be told we can't get in the water. I already shot them an email to check, so now I'm just sitting here waiting on a reply, but I wanted to see if anyone else has run into this before. Anyway, my wife has this one patch (if you know what I mean, I hate that word) about 4 inches wide on one shin and another smaller one on the other leg. What do you all think, and have any of you dealt with something similar?
Maria Chavez55 Maria Chavez55 Active Member
56 messages
joined Feb 2008
#1570 ·
I'm really not sure if jumping into a pool is the best move for your wife. With her skin being that damaged, she could easily pick up fungus or other microorganisms in the water. Personally, I stay far away from any kind of public swimming
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1571 ·
Hey.

Legally, they can't ban you from swimming or deny you access to any public facility—that's straight-up discrimination.

I also think avoiding public pools altogether is solid, smart advice.

Best, and keep fighting.
Lawrence Ramirez3 Lawrence Ramirez3 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2009
#1572 ·
Timothy Jackson6 said:Hey guys, has anyone here hit up a pool or a spa resort just for the hell of it—you know, hanging out with family or friends? Do they actually let people with psoriasis swim in these places? I’m thinking about taking my wife to a spa this weekend, but I don't want us getting turned away at the door. I already shot them an email and am just waiting to hear back, but I wanted to see if anyone else has dealt with this. She’s got one patch (hate that word) about 10 cm on one shin and another smaller one on the other. What do you guys think? Anyone had similar experiences?

Those two "patches" shouldn't be an issue. You can hit the pool without any trouble; just make sure to wash off with a good shower gel or body milk right after you get out, and you'll be fine.
rapidpanther41 rapidpanther41 Member
47 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1573 ·
Michael Ramos3 said:I honestly wonder what it takes for people to finally embrace something new—something "alternative"—that might actually help them.

no hidden ads here, just being real 😉
we get you, we're smart enough to know when we're being sold to
thanks, jadesailor14 🙂

Look, this cream definitely isn't going to cure psoriasis—let's be real about that—but it’s great for managing the symptoms. It works best if you apply it right after a shower, especially if you’re dealing with psoriasis on your knuckles and finger joints like I am. It doesn't have a scent, it's colorless, absorbs into the skin incredibly fast, and stays hydrated for quite a while. I'm not out here trying to hawk some product, I just want to share what I've personally tested and found helpful in my own fight against this thing.👍 👍
rapidpanther41 rapidpanther41 Member
47 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1574 ·
Since we aren't always living life on the edge of alternative medicine—let's take a quick second to actually look at what mainstream doctors are telling us!!!!
http://www.pharmacology.com

Just type "psoriasis" into the search bar.
Charles Mitchell79 Charles Mitchell79 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2007
#1575 ·
I've seen people on this forum bringing up ZORAC gel, so I figured I’d just ask you guys. Can anyone tell me if I should actually bother buying this stuff? I noticed the label says you shouldn't put it on your face, but I’ve got acne iuvenilis (which isn't psoriasis) right on my face.
placidfox7 placidfox7 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Oct 2007
#1576 ·
goldenstag213 said:Michael Ramos3, you’ve been a fixture on this forum for a long time, which is great. Some members have even reached out saying they’ve seen real results using your cream, which makes things even better. However, please don't feel the need to defend something that just doesn't pass the smell test of common sense.
So, here we have rowdyviper99 popping up for the very first time claiming to have a cure, and even going so far as to say 80% of his body was affected. In my case, about 20% of my body is covered, so there’s at least a few spots visible in every single family photo I have.
I simply asked the gentleman if he had any proof that he ever actually suffered from psoriasis in the first place. Besides, I mentioned to him that I still have a few spots left and that the skin where the psoriasis used to be is slightly darker now. I don't see why it would be an issue for him to snap a photo and show us. The fact that he hasn't responded at all since my post leads me to believe he was just selling smoke.
Let’s be realistic—nobody wants to heal their psoriasis more than I do, and I’d be thrilled to share that success with everyone, provided it's backed by actual arguments and some kind of evidence.
On another note, I’ll be in the city for business during the first month, so I’ll reach out to you to pick up your ointment. I plan to take photos of the changes every single day, and if it works for me, I’ll post everything and bring you enough business to keep you incredibly busy (someone else tried that once but disappeared shortly after).
I want to remind everyone that every true member of this forum shares one single goal: helping one another heal or, God willing, achieve total remission from psoriasis. Anyone else who shows up once and then vanishes is just a manipulator.
P.S.
Regarding the group that started using the ointment and tea from Smith—nobody is reporting anything back. Please let us know what's happening; even if there are no results, tell us so we don't waste our time and money.

Greetings,

It’s been about three or four weeks now of applying Smith's ointment, and the bottle is nearly empty... The redness is still there, the scaling is still there, and I honestly don't see much progress. My skin feels a bit softer and the flakes that fall off seem thinner, but I'm giving up. Perhaps it just doesn't work for my skin type. If you decide to try it, just a heads-up: stick to wearing black, because the cream will definitely stain your white clothes a bit. 🙂 NEXT CREAM PLEASE....
rapidpanther41 rapidpanther41 Member
47 messages
joined Jun 2007
#1577 ·
Charles Mitchell79 said:I saw someone mentioning Zorac gel on this forum, so I decided to ask you guys something. Can you tell me if I should buy this cream? I noticed it says you shouldn't apply it to the face, and I have acne iuvenilis (which isn't psoriasis) just on my face.

So, here’s the lowdown on ZORAC—it falls into the Tazarotene category.
Tazarotene
Basically, Tazarotene is an esterified retinoid that breaks down in your skin into its active form, tazarotene acid. That’s actually the only known metabolite of tazarotene that carries any real retinoid activity. This acid specifically works by regulating gene expression—basically modulating cell proliferation, skin tissue hyperplasia, and how skin cells differentiate. Now, don't get too technical on me, because the exact mechanism of how tazarotene acid treats psoriasis isn't fully understood yet. What we *do* see is that patients improve as their skin starts looking normal again, which happens alongside a reduction in inflammatory markers like ICAM-1 and HLA-DR, plus it helps with epidermal hyperplasia and those weird abnormalities in skin cell differentiation—you know, things like keratinocyte transglutaminases, involucrin, and keratin.
You’ll usually find Tazarotene in gels or creams used to treat mild to moderate psoriasis that doesn't cover more than 10% of your body. Most people start with a 0.05% concentration and then move up to 0.1% if they need more punch.
A quick heads-up: you definitely shouldn't use Tazarotene products if you're pregnant or breastfeeding because of the potential risk of birth defects (teratogenic effects on the fetus). Also, it’s a no-go for pustular or exfoliative psoriasis, and you shouldn't put it on hairy areas of the skin or in skin folds.
You also have to be careful using Tazarotene on skin that's already damaged or inflamed from psoriasis, since it can cause irritation. And please—keep it away from your eyes. Also, once you've applied a Tazarotene product, your skin becomes extra sensitive, so don't go out into direct sunlight or hit up a tanning bed.
The most common side effects? Itching, a burning sensation, redness, irritation, peeling, contact dermatitis, skin pain, and—believe it or not—sometimes even a temporary worsening of the psoriasis itself.
Registered in the US since 2006: Zorac (Belupo)
Michael Ramos3 Michael Ramos3 Active Member
196 messages
joined Apr 2007
#1578 ·
This is a great product. I’d recommend it to all my friends for daily use.
Better off using that hand cream mentioned above.
Charles Mitchell79 Charles Mitchell79 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2007
#1579 ·
rapidpanther41 said:Here’s the lowdown on ZORAC, which falls under the Tazarotene category.
Tazarotene
Tazarotene is an esterified retinoid that converts into its active form, tazarotene acid, once it hits the skin. This acid is basically the only known metabolite of tazarotene that actually does anything. It works by specifically regulating gene expression—basically managing cell proliferation, skin tissue hyperplasia, and how skin cells differentiate. We don't fully grasp the exact mechanism of how tazarotene acid treats psoriasis yet, but improvements usually show up as the skin starts looking normal again. It helps lower inflammatory markers like ICAM-1 and HLA-DR, while tackling epidermal hyperplasia and weird cell differentiation issues involving things like keratinocyte transglutaminases, involucrin, and keratin.
You typically find Tazarotene in gels or creams used for mild to moderate psoriasis that doesn't cover more than 10% of your body. Most people start with a 0.05% concentration and then move up to 0.1% if they need to.
Just a heads up: you shouldn't use Tazarotene if you're pregnant or breastfeeding because it might cause birth defects. It’s also a no-go for pustular or exfoliative psoriasis, and you definitely shouldn't put it on hairy areas or in skin folds.
You have to be pretty careful applying Tazarotene to skin that's already damaged or inflamed from psoriasis because it can get irritating fast. Keep it out of your eyes, too. Also, if you've applied a Tazarotene product, don't go out into direct sunlight or hit up a tanning bed.
The most common side effects are itching, burning sensations, redness, irritation, peeling, contact dermatitis, skin pain, and sometimes even a temporary flare-up of the psoriasis itself.
Registered in the US since 2006: Zorac (Belupo)


Thanks... I think I'm gonna pass on buying Zorac. 🙂 I'm not really feeling those side effects. Does anyone know of any other acne meds that are actually decent? I tried Skinoren, but it didn't really do much for me.
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
314 messages
joined May 2006
#1580 ·
Charles Mitchell79 said:Thanks... I think I'm going to pass on the ZORAC. 🙂 The side effects just aren't worth it for me. Does anyone know of a different acne treatment that actually works? I tried Skinoren, but it didn't really do much for my skin.

There are actually specific threads dedicated to acne on both the health and beauty boards!
You'll definitely get much better advice over there.

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