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Before the Rain

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Participants Sean Miller78Jessica Nguyen85Timothy Cox2Jacob Wilson50Hannah Price3silentpuma25Timothy Campbell2nimbleangler6Richard Hernandez13ferallynx13northernfalcon30Rebecca Taylor57mistymarlin7Anthony Howard3amberfalcon13Kyle White2Drew Sanders7bluesailor11goldensailor15ALarry Martin11Anthony Jackson50
Sean Miller78 Sean Miller78 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Feb 2003
#1 ·
Either Before the Rain, for reading πŸ˜›

Does anyone have any thoughts on this? I hadn't actually sat down to watch a single film by Milcho Manchevski until last night, so this was my first experience with his work.
Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
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joined Jul 2003
#2 ·
A pretty solid debut for a first feature. I think it actually snagged an Academy Award for Best International Feature Film nomination. For those of us from the North America, though, it didn't really offer much in the way of surprises. It just hits on what we already know too wellβ€”that horrific, circular logic where ethnic violence and pure human stupidity feed into one another. A tragedy, through and through. I suspect the Mexican man didn't have to strain too hard acting, given that his character is mostly just living on scraps of intuition and hope.
As far as the direction goes, it’s flawlessβ€”clean, precise, and avoids any unnecessary showing off. It’s interesting how Milcho followed that classic American career path: start out as a top-tier music video director (like doing work for Arrested Development) and then transition into a "feature film" director.
I'm not really sure what his deal is now. He made another movie, Dust, which I haven't sat down to watch yet, and I suppose that's that.
Timothy Cox2 Timothy Cox2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2003
#3 ·
This movie is fantastic. It’s basically the North American version of Pulp Fiction.
The film has a few timeline inconsistencies, but they brush them off with the line, "Time waits for no one; the circle is complete." There’s a big difference between rattling a gun and actually hearing it go off. Sadly, that prophecy came true, because a few years later, the rain finally fell over North Mexico.
Sean Miller78 Sean Miller78 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2003
#4 ·
The circle is hardly perfectly round. πŸ˜‰

I feel compelled to examine it once more.
Timothy Cox2 Timothy Cox2 Active Member
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joined Feb 2003
#5 ·
Sean Miller78 said:A circle isn't actually round. πŸ˜‰

You're absolutely right. πŸ‘
It's been a while since I watched it, so my memory might be a little fuzzy, but I think he was referring to that scene where the guy from the monastery starts speaking French to the Englishwoman while she's staring at those paintings of an Albanian woman being murdered. That voice was looking for the Mexican man, even though they had already crossed paths.
Sean Miller78 Sean Miller78 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2003
#6 ·
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Precisely so.

Furthermore, I found the visual component to be truly exceptional. The musical score was equally impressive, though I must admit my familiarity with North Mexican music is somewhat limited by default.

It is a positive development that at least someone watched this film. 😁
Jacob Wilson50 Jacob Wilson50 Active Member
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joined Sep 2016
#7 ·
Sean Miller78 said:At least someone actually watched this movie. 😁

There's still hope for us πŸ‘
Hannah Price3 Hannah Price3 Member
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joined Mar 2003
#8 ·
And then there's this... πŸ™‚
silentpuma25 silentpuma25 Member
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joined Apr 2003
#9 ·
I've seen this one a few times now, and honestly? I’m obsessed.
It was actually quite a while agoβ€”back when the premiere hit Washington, D.C., maybe 6 or 7 years back?
Sean Miller78 Sean Miller78 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2003
#10 ·
I find it hilarious when Mexicans get worked up over questions like, "Wait, was it really like that in your neck of the woods?" 😁

The only honest answer I could ever offer them was, "No, that's just how things functioned all across the North America." 😒
Timothy Campbell2 Timothy Campbell2 Active Member
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joined Jan 2010
#11 ·
Sean Miller78 said:Or Rashomon, for those who need it. πŸ˜›

Any thoughts? I hadn't actually sat down to watch anything by Manchevski until last night. This was my first one.

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!!!!
I even went out and grabbed the soundtrack by Anastasia.πŸ‘
nimbleangler6 nimbleangler6 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2003
#12 ·
Betty Mendoza55 said:I even managed to track down the soundtrack by Anastasia.πŸ‘


I went ahead and picked up the soundtrackβ€”even though I haven't actually sat down to watch the film yet.😁
Mind you, I fully intend to catch it as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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joined May 2004
#13 ·
Sean Miller78 said:Or maybe Rashomon, if we're being formal about it... πŸ˜›

Any thoughts on this one? I hadn't actually sat down to watch anything directed by Manchevski until last night, so this was my first real introduction to his work.

Nice! You can officially tell people you've checked off half of Manchevski's filmography now.
Sean Miller78 Sean Miller78 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Feb 2003
#14 ·
I would be an expert on his entire body of work if it weren't for the fact that we only have this copy of Dust at our disposal.
ferallynx13 ferallynx13 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2004
#15 ·
Best part of the movie:

When Rade Serbedzija says to that blonde in the taxi: "Let's fuck!"
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northernfalcon30 northernfalcon30 Active Member
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joined Sep 2003
#16 ·
Ugh, this Dust is seriously killing me.....

Man, where was I? Oh yeah... which movie was it again? The one with that insanely heavy, dark atmosphere that just feels like something terrible is about to happen...?!
Rebecca Taylor57 Rebecca Taylor57 Member
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joined Aug 2003
#17 ·
That movie by Manchevski... truly masterfully directed. I can't wait to finally catch Dust!
mistymarlin7 mistymarlin7 Member
20 messages
joined Feb 2003
#18 ·
I actually liked the movie.
Anthony Howard3 Anthony Howard3 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2004
#19 ·
That movie was killer...
Anyone know where I can snag a DVD or a DivX rip? (If anyone’s got the Dust version, let me knowβ€”I'm all ears). I checked Amazon, but all they have listed is some old VHS copy of >.
Thanks
amberfalcon13 amberfalcon13 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2003
#20 ·
Chandler said:A circle isn't actually round. πŸ˜‰

A circle is just a closed loop.

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