2013 United States Grand Prix (Las Vegas) - April 21st

Whitmarsh was always firmly in Jenson's corner... even during those times when Hamilton was essentially stealing the show at McLaren.

Raymond Anderson4 said:I’m sitting here listening to Jenson and Marshall right now... what a load of nonsense.
I honestly don't get why they're making such a public spectacle out of Sergio.
If they'd just take a look in the mirror and actually analyze his driving during the race, they'd see he was the one who forced Sergio off at turn 4.
Sergio had the pace to stay right on his bumper, but this guy just floored it straight into the apex and left Sergio to deal with the fallout.

The only thing that felt even remotely debatable was that incident between Webber and Rosberg, where Mark jerked the wheel and caught Nico off guard—to me, that felt a bit too aggressive.

I went through the transcript immediately after the interviews.
There's more to it, but the bottom line? Baton was acting like the biggest crybaby in the room. 🤮
And a liar, too, considering he's actually responsible for that collision when Perez clipped his rear right tire.

Not to mention, some of those statements were bad enough to land you in federal prison here in the States.

If you ask me, the real losers here are Mercedes. They had such promising positions, and then they just completely fell apart. It’s like watching a powerhouse team suddenly lose their grip on everything. On another note, that battle between the McLaren drivers was pretty wild—just fighting tooth and nail for that single extra point.

Raymond Anderson4 said:Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXQki6y3Nc

Thanks so much!

neonfalcon16 said:If you ask me, the real losers here are Mercedes. They had such promising positions, and then they just completely fell apart. It’s like watching a powerhouse team suddenly lose their grip on everything. On another note, that battle between the McLaren drivers was pretty wild—just fighting tooth and nail for that single extra point.

Nico, sure—but I’d say Lewis has done more than enough with what he's got. Moving from P9 up to P5? That's solid. Given how much the Mercedes car has been struggling lately, starting in P9 isn't exactly what I'd call "promising." Plus, his setup still hasn't felt right since that gearbox change—so he's basically fighting an uphill battle.

analogpilot16 said:Nico, sure—but I’d say Lewis has done more than enough with what he's got. Moving from P9 up to P5? That's solid. Given how much the Mercedes car has been struggling lately, starting in P9 isn't exactly what I'd call "promising." Plus, his setup still hasn't felt right since that gearbox change—so he's basically fighting an uphill battle.

Ferrari is an absolute disaster... they look brilliant in qualifying, yet their race pace after a sustained period is nothing short of disappointing. 🙂

I feel compelled to extend my sincere congratulations to tbd for such boundless optimism regarding his idol Seb's inevitable victory. 🙏

It is time for Ferrari to finally look toward the future, especially now that Seb and Kimi have departed... meanwhile, the Maestro has plummeted from ninth straight into a brutal deep freeze of negative thirty degrees. 🤣

Brian Campbell36 said:Ferrari is an absolute disaster... they look brilliant in qualifying, yet their race pace after a sustained period is nothing short of disappointing. 🙂

I feel compelled to extend my sincere congratulations to tbd for such boundless optimism regarding his idol Seb's inevitable victory. 🙏

It is time for Ferrari to finally look toward the future, especially now that Seb and Kimi have departed... meanwhile, the Maestro has plummeted from ninth straight into a brutal deep freeze of negative thirty degrees. 🤣

It’s down by 30 points. But honestly? I’m feeling better about this than I did last year when we were sitting at -10 after Bahrain. Is it progress? Maybe.

It’s a damn shame about that broken DRS system. If it had worked, we could have actually watched some real racing for the remaining 50+ laps.
This is the second time in four races where Vettel has been able to breeze through without any resistance, and with Alonso’s crash, his lead is basically untouchable now.

A little too much luck for one guy, and just as much bad luck for the other.

Raymond Anderson4 said:Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXQki6y3Nc

It’s honestly embarrassing for Button. He played dirty against his own teammate on track,
but when he's up against the actual competition, he looks like he's just standing still while they lap him.🙂🙂

Nathan Jones98 said:http://mladenjergovic.com/tko-ce-ga-zaustaviti-2
TBH — here’s the write-up you wanted

Honestly, I'd rather just be buried in ash.😁

Nathan Jones98 said:Sebastian Vettel can't win unless he's sitting on pole—so I don't see why you're being so optimistic--

😍

Especially those "experts" claiming Vettel can't even overtake.😍

BTW, here's the text:👍
I love it when things are written objectively, without the nonsense...
And Jerga is right—I'm not exactly losing sleep over Alonso's stellar drive and being only about 30 seconds behind...
Even though those losers from Red Bull were busy tearing Vettel apart again.🙂
He could have been way faster. To me, the best parts of the race were hearing people whine about him hitting 1:40 while he was out there flat-out smashing 1:39.0s, running laps two seconds faster than Kimi and di Resta.😁
Then there was that ultra-fast lap at the end, followed by all that whining about pit stops—just shut up already.😍

Though I really am bummed Alonso had that breakdown.😢
But man, watching them hunt him down on track would have been pure bliss.🙂
And I'm dead certain Lotus would've stayed far behind, because those two would've been going full throttle, chasing each other the entire race.😳

That was a fantastic race—really enjoyed watching that one!☕

The final showdown was quite the spectacle—even for those cars without DRS! Seeing the McLarens and Lewis-Mark battling it out like that—it really keeps you on the edge of your seat.

Huge congratulations to Jason Campbell70! Well deserved.

And of course, we can't forget about Kimi and Romain...🙏

Ferrari... honestly, where do we even begin? It’s such a rollercoaster—one minute you're riding high on pure adrenaline, and the next, you're left staring at the screen wondering how things went sideways so fast. I was chatting with a buddy of mine over coffee the other day about it, and he had the same sentiment—it's that classic mix of absolute brilliance and baffling decisions. They have all the ingredients for greatness, but sometimes it feels like they just can't quite find the right rhythm to pull it all together. Still, despite the headaches, I can't help but stay optimistic. There's just something about that scarlet livery that keeps me coming back for more!🤣

Jason Campbell70 said:FL

One person is talking about DRS, someone else is just sharing facts.

The maestro. 🙏🙏🙏

shadowstag10 said:maestro 🙏 🙏

Jason Campbell70 said:Goodness, what a driver. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Jason Campbell70 said:Why "maestro"?

Now you know. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Edward Howard2 said:race driver: Fernando maestro Alonso

Man, this guy is unreal. He was stuck out back with a broken car, but he fought his way all the way up to eighth place just by nailing his pit strategy. He did the whole race without even using DRS, and he was still just bullying everyone else on pure pace with those aggressive overtakes on track. 🙏

Absolute masterclass from the maestro... 🙏

🤣

Hold on—how many times did he get slapped around by the actual contenders on track today? Four? Five?

The only thing worth noting was him getting past Lewis Hamilton, but let’s be honest—Lewis was struggling big time out there today...
The rest of the race was basically just watching him weave through cars that were significantly slower than the Ferrari...
Look, you guys might not want to hear it, but it's time to face reality: the Ferrari is a damn good car this year.

nimblesurfer17 said:That was a fantastic race—really enjoyed watching that one!☕

The final showdown was quite the spectacle—even for those cars without DRS! Seeing the McLarens and Lewis-Mark battling it out like that—it really keeps you on the edge of your seat.

Huge congratulations to Jason Campbell70! Well deserved.

And of course, we can't forget about Kimi and Romain...🙏

Ferrari... honestly, where do we even begin? It’s such a rollercoaster—one minute you're riding high on pure adrenaline, and the next, you're left staring at the screen wondering how things went sideways so fast. I was chatting with a buddy of mine over coffee the other day about it, and he had the same sentiment—it's that classic mix of absolute brilliance and baffling decisions. They have all the ingredients for greatness, but sometimes it feels like they just can't quite find the right rhythm to pull it all together. Still, despite the headaches, I can't help but stay optimistic. There's just something about that scarlet livery that keeps me coming back for more!🤣

🤣

Hold on—how many times did he get slapped around by the actual contenders on track today? Four? Five?

The only thing worth noting was him getting past Lewis Hamilton, but let’s be honest—Lewis was struggling big time out there today...
The rest of the race was basically just watching him weave through cars that were significantly slower than the Ferrari...
Look, you guys might not want to hear it, but it's time to face reality: the Ferrari is a damn good car this year.

Seventeen. ☕

Jason Campbell70 said:Seventeen. ☕

I know it can be tough to admit certain things...☕

Just so we’re all on the same page—Alonso drove an incredible race, truly—but it wasn't exactly a massive leap over someone like, say, Verstappen, to justify this much hype and cheering..
By the end of the day, the only people left in his wake were the guys driving significantly slower cars..

Plus, he took quite a bit of a beating from Verstappen right at the start of the race, so..🤷

Either way, if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be celebrating him quite this loudly..☕

stormybadger8 said:Honestly, I'd rather just be buried in ash.😁

😍

Especially those "experts" claiming Vettel can't even overtake.😍

BTW, here's the text:👍
I love it when things are written objectively, without the nonsense...
And Jerga is right—I'm not exactly losing sleep over Alonso's stellar drive and being only about 30 seconds behind...
Even though those losers from Red Bull were busy tearing Vettel apart again.🙂
He could have been way faster. To me, the best parts of the race were hearing people whine about him hitting 1:40 while he was out there flat-out smashing 1:39.0s, running laps two seconds faster than Kimi and di Resta.😁
Then there was that ultra-fast lap at the end, followed by all that whining about pit stops—just shut up already.😍

Though I really am bummed Alonso had that breakdown.😢
But man, watching them hunt him down on track would have been pure bliss.🙂
And I'm dead certain Lotus would've stayed far behind, because those two would've been going full throttle, chasing each other the entire race.😳

I have to say, I can't exactly agree with everything Jason Campbell70 is throwing out there. He’s definitely not hitting the mark on every single point.
He actually went out on a limb there, claiming he wanted to see Kimi running the exact same strategy as Vettel just to give him a fair shot at applying some serious pressure.
If he’d actually played it smart and stuck to that strategy, he might have had a shot at third place. And honestly? That’s being generous. Given the absolute state of his tire sets, I wouldn't have bet a dime on him even getting close. ☕
Look, let’s get the facts straight regarding that gap. When Vettel was clocking those 1:39s, Kimi and Di Resta were lagging by a full two seconds. People love to speculate, but it’s simple math: it came down to the rubber. If I recall correctly, the latter two were basically riding on dead tires at the end of their stints, while Vettel was cruising on much fresher compounds. It wasn't magic; it was just a blatant difference in tire strategy.
Of course, that doesn't exactly take away from the sheer raw speed Vettel was pulling off out there.
It’s a complete no-brainer that Alonso and Vettel would have absolutely smoked them. They were starting from significantly better positions than Lotus ever had a chance of seeing. It wasn't even close.
What Kimi and Romain pulled off today was nothing short of a miracle. Seriously, given where they lined up on the grid and the absolute chaos of this race, that kind of performance is about as close to perfection as you're ever going to get. It was the absolute ceiling of what was possible.

nimblesurfer17 said:I know it can be tough to admit certain things...☕

Just so we’re all on the same page—Alonso drove an incredible race, truly—but it wasn't exactly a massive leap over someone like, say, Verstappen, to justify this much hype and cheering..
By the end of the day, the only people left in his wake were the guys driving significantly slower cars..

Plus, he took quite a bit of a beating from Verstappen right at the start of the race, so..🤷

Either way, if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't be celebrating him quite this loudly..☕

Let me say it again for you—☕It doesn't add any weight to what you're saying. Does it? 🙂

Yes.Four or five relevant opponents? That's the question.".

forum.hr 😂

shadowhawk24 said:I have to say, I can't exactly agree with everything Jason Campbell70 is throwing out there. He’s definitely not hitting the mark on every single point.
He actually went out on a limb there, claiming he wanted to see Kimi running the exact same strategy as Vettel just to give him a fair shot at applying some serious pressure.
If he’d actually played it smart and stuck to that strategy, he might have had a shot at third place. And honestly? That’s being generous. Given the absolute state of his tire sets, I wouldn't have bet a dime on him even getting close. ☕
Look, let’s get the facts straight regarding that gap. When Vettel was clocking those 1:39s, Kimi and Di Resta were lagging by a full two seconds. People love to speculate, but it’s simple math: it came down to the rubber. If I recall correctly, the latter two were basically riding on dead tires at the end of their stints, while Vettel was cruising on much fresher compounds. It wasn't magic; it was just a blatant difference in tire strategy.
Of course, that doesn't exactly take away from the sheer raw speed Vettel was pulling off out there.
It’s a complete no-brainer that Alonso and Vettel would have absolutely smoked them. They were starting from significantly better positions than Lotus ever had a chance of seeing. It wasn't even close.
What Kimi and Romain pulled off today was nothing short of a miracle. Seriously, given where they lined up on the grid and the absolute chaos of this race, that kind of performance is about as close to perfection as you're ever going to get. It was the absolute ceiling of what was possible.

Facts. Total beast mode. Kimi was clearly pushing them to bring him in early for that final pit stop, but the crew obviously knew exactly what they were doing.

There's no denying it—Lotus really stepped up after that disappointing qualifying session.

I still can't get over how much that race was orchestrated... 😂 🤣 🙂

Jason Campbell70 said:Let me say it again for you—☕It doesn't add any weight to what you're saying. Does it? 🙂

Yes.Four or five relevant opponents? That's the question.".

forum.hr 😂

Coming from the guy who practically invented using that exact same line...

US Forum..☕

shadowhawk24 said:I have to say, I can't exactly agree with everything Jason Campbell70 is throwing out there. He’s definitely not hitting the mark on every single point.
He actually went out on a limb there, claiming he wanted to see Kimi running the exact same strategy as Vettel just to give him a fair shot at applying some serious pressure.
If he’d actually played it smart and stuck to that strategy, he might have had a shot at third place. And honestly? That’s being generous. Given the absolute state of his tire sets, I wouldn't have bet a dime on him even getting close. ☕
Look, let’s get the facts straight regarding that gap. When Vettel was clocking those 1:39s, Kimi and Di Resta were lagging by a full two seconds. People love to speculate, but it’s simple math: it came down to the rubber. If I recall correctly, the latter two were basically riding on dead tires at the end of their stints, while Vettel was cruising on much fresher compounds. It wasn't magic; it was just a blatant difference in tire strategy.
Of course, that doesn't exactly take away from the sheer raw speed Vettel was pulling off out there.
It’s a complete no-brainer that Alonso and Vettel would have absolutely smoked them. They were starting from significantly better positions than Lotus ever had a chance of seeing. It wasn't even close.
What Kimi and Romain pulled off today was nothing short of a miracle. Seriously, given where they lined up on the grid and the absolute chaos of this race, that kind of performance is about as close to perfection as you're ever going to get. It was the absolute ceiling of what was possible.

Not really. He was pulling those times consistently for about ten laps straight, and Kimi and di Resta weren't even on significantly older tires than he was.
He actually clocked faster times than Kimi. When Kimi pitted early—way sooner than expected just to jump di Resta—and came back out on fresh tires, that’s when he actually built up that massive gap over him...

So yeah, you're right, the analyst totally missed the mark there. Kimi honestly didn't have a realistic shot at fighting for the win... I actually think if they went with a three-stop strategy, he might have ended up behind Grosjean and di Resta anyway.
And I agree, given where they started on the grid, this was absolutely the absolute limit for Lotus.

James Roberts87 said:It’s honestly embarrassing for Button. He played dirty against his own teammate on track,
but when he's up against the actual competition, he looks like he's just standing still while they lap him.🙂🙂

That's nonsense. Jenson has made it clear twice now—he puts all the blame squarely on Whitmarsh's shoulders.🤣

nimblesurfer17 said:Coming from the guy who practically invented using that exact same line...

US Forum..☕

Did you catch my serious tone? Good.

And I’m still waiting for that list of "four or five heavy hits taken from relevant opponents". ☕, obviously.