British GP (Silverstone) | July 1–3, 2022

Douglas Roberts49 said:He really should have been more careful, just like the other drivers...

First off, he went wide through Copse, which is exactly where everyone else goes wide throughout the entire race.

And more importantly, that damage didn't even happen at Copse; it happened later on a different part of the track.

hiddenridge99 said:But this Ferrari crew....

What a total disaster of a team. Honestly, they need someone like a gritty US coach sent over to clean house—kind of like what the Yankees need right now...

Nah, they don't need anyone—they're already performing just as bad as the bottom-tier teams in the league.

Charles Leclerc just completely loses his mind during a race. He goes full throttle against everyone—his own teammate, his rivals, nobody's safe. It was way too easy for him to spin out today, and honestly, he probably almost took himself out too. We're talking millimeters here. He clipped Sergio Perez twice and wrecked his front wing, then shoved Carlos Sainz off the track, and did the same thing to Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton..

His focus just evaporates. Look, the guy has insane talent and raw speed, but he lacks composure. Max Verstappen might be hot-headed, but he can snap back and find his rhythm. With Leclerc, once he starts sliding, it’s game over. If he loses momentum and makes one mistake, his brain just shuts off. Then he just goes into this desperate "all or nothing" mode, driving like a maniac trying to claw back what he lost.

In this current season, all that reckless charging has cost him at least one win.

Honestly, Max should have taken a penalty for shoving Mick Schumacher out there—but I guess he got away with it just because of his reputation.

Richard Walker38 said:Leclerc just loses his mind mid-race. He goes full throttle against his own teammate, against everyone else. It would have been so easy for a few drivers to spin out during that race, including himself. Everything was decided by millimeters. He caught Sergio Perez twice and wrecked his front wing, shoved Carlos Sainz off track, and did the same to Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton..

His focus slips way too easily. The guy has the raw speed and the talent, but he lacks the composure. Max Verstappen might be hot-headed, but he can snap back and find his rhythm. With Leclerc, once he starts sliding, it's permanent. Once he loses the beat and makes a mistake, his brain just shuts off and he tries to brute-force his way back through sheer aggression.

This season alone, all that desperation has barely netted him a single win.

You clearly have some kind of grudge against Leclerc.
I don't know what it is, but you've basically put him on a blacklist. It would be easier if you just vented and told us what he actually did to offend you.

Otherwise, you're a reasonable person. You make sense and you're actually possible to talk to. 👍It's just whenever Leclerc comes up, your judgment goes right out the window.

How was Leclerc being more reckless or driving dirtier yesterday than, say, the two guys from Red Bull Racing?

Richard Walker38 said:...This season alone, all that desperation has barely netted him a single win.

Is he responsible for Monaco or Indianapolis? Not to mention those two mechanical failures when he had wins in the bag.
Which "desperate driving" were you even talking about?

Richard Walker38 said:Leclerc just loses his head during the race. He goes all out, whether it's against his teammate or his rivals. It would have been so easy for a few drivers to spin out there, and he probably nearly spun himself. He caught Sergio Perez twice and damaged his front wing, then pushed Carlos Sainz off the track, along with Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton..

He loses focus far too easily. The kid has the talent and the raw speed, but he lacks composure. Max is hot-headed, sure, but he can pull himself together and find his rhythm again. With Leclerc, once he starts sliding, it’s permanent. If he loses his rhythm and makes a mistake, he basically switches his brain off and just tries to brute-force his way back by driving like a maniac.

This season alone, that reckless style has cost him at least one win.

Leclerc pushed Carlos Sainz off the track?
Lewis Hamilton?
Max?

Can you tell me exactly when that happened?

Are you seriously forgetting Imola? He had those fresh tires and was eating up the gap to Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen, then he completely botched the entry into Turn 1 like a total amateur. He definitely would've passed Sergio because his pace was superior, and honestly, he probably would've caught Max by the end since he was on much better rubber.

By the way, seeing what the internet has turned into—and how sensitive everyone has become—is honestly pathetic. You can't offer even a shred of legitimate criticism anymore without being labeled a "hater" or whatever. It’s exhausting.

Man, if I don't pull the plug on my router and kill my internet connection forever, I might lose it. We are living in the era of snowflakes.

Raymond Anderson4 said:Leclerc was pushing Carlos Sainz off the track?
Lewis Hamilton?
Max Verstappen?

Can you actually tell me when that happened?

Just watch the race replay because it's obvious you didn't. Check Lap 46 and Lap 3 if you want me to save you the trouble.

Richard Walker38 said:Did you forget about Imola? He had fresher tires, but he lost his advantage over Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen because he spun off like an amateur. He definitely would have overtaken Sergio Perez since his pace was better, and he probably could have caught Max too by the end since he was on much better rubber.

By the way, seeing how the internet has turned into this place and how sensitive people have become is honestly just depressing. You can't offer even legitimate criticism anymore without being labeled a hater or accused of having some kind of issue.

Man, if I don't just pull the plug on my router and shut down the internet forever. We really are living in the era of snowflakes.

It seems like you’re the one who forgot Imola and doesn't quite remember how things actually played out.
Leclerc didn't actually have fresher tires than the Red Bull duo because he was the first to pit, while they covered him immediately—one lap later for Sergio Perez and two laps later for Max. So, in reality, the Red Bull drivers actually had the fresher soft tires and the faster car on that track.

There is no way Leclerc could have won at Imola, even in theory... even if he had passed Sergio Perez, Max had a 15-second lead on the freshest tires with 11 laps left in the race. 🍿

Richard Walker38 said:You should probably watch the race replay because it’s pretty clear you missed it. Just look at lap 46 and lap 3 to save yourself the trouble.

Sure, Leclerc is responsible for what happened on lap 46, but shouldn't we also hold Max accountable for how he handled the situation with Leclerc and Mick Schumacher?

Raymond Anderson4 said:Leclerc is responsible for lap 46, but you're telling me Max isn't responsible for what happened with Leclerc and Mick?

Look, there is a massive difference between getting stuck behind someone and actively blocking them from having any chance to pass.

If we follow your logic, we might as well just cancel the whole race right now. We should probably just install a "safe space" zone where every car has to stay two meters apart at all times. During a duel, everyone should maintain a huge gap, maybe add an extra lane to the track, and only allow overtaking on the straightaways. That would solve everything, right?

The reality is simple: Leclerc slammed into Sergio Perez—twice during the restart—and wrecked his car because he was driving like a bull, trying to force a gap where absolutely none existed.

Richard Walker38 said:There is a massive difference between getting into someone and actually blocking their line.

By that logic, you might as well just cancel racing altogether.

Leclerc collided with Perez twice.

I never said I was defending Leclerc in that move on Perez. Why bring that up now?

During the race, I explicitly wrote that he made a mistake.

In fact, my posts during the race included criticisms of both Leclerc and Max.

Besides, what’s really the difference between Leclerc cutting off Hamilton on lap 46 and Max cutting off Leclerc and Mick?

None of it is okay. However, regarding Leclerc, I still feel like Hamilton caught him off guard—he likely didn't even see Hamilton making that move.

If we are going to penalize Leclerc for lap 46, then Max needs to be penalized for his moves at Daytona International Speedway too.

By the way, I'm still not seeing where Leclerc pushed Sainz and Max. I think you might have mixed up the drivers during the Scuderia Ferrari restart; Sainz was on the inside line, not Leclerc.

So, a Spaniard took the win.
It would be even better if we saw Norris and Russell standing up there too.
Why shouldn't the younger guys get a taste of that podium glory?
Honestly, I am just completely fed up with this one guy's dominance and his constant complaining over the radio.

Even though Leclerc was clearly the faster driver—making me question Ferrari's strategy entirely.
Sainz let Leclerc past on lap 31, and by lap 39—right when Ocon triggered the SC—Leclerc had built a 5-second gap. That’s about half a second faster per lap.
And then, these geniuses decide not to call him in, leaving him stuck out there on hard tires.
It feels like they're actively working against Leclerc—unless, of course, Sainz just has more lucrative sponsors.
God, I hope those Ferrari strategists all catch a nasty case of the measles.

swiftmaker12 said:It’s about time a Spaniard like Sainz took the win.
We should be cheering for Norris and Russell to grab trophies too.
Why shouldn't the younger guys get a taste of glory on that top podium?
I am honestly fed up with this one guy's dominance and his crew constant chatter over the radio.

Even though Leclerc was clearly the faster driver, I just can't wrap my head around Scuderia Ferrari's strategy.
Sainz let Leclerc pass on lap 31, and by lap 39—right before Ocon triggered the SC—Leclerc was already 5 seconds ahead. That's half a second faster per lap.
Then these geniuses decide not to pit him at all and just leave him out on those hard tires.
It feels like they are actively sabotaging Leclerc, or maybe Sainz just brings in heavier hitters when it comes to sponsors.
God, I hope every single one of those Ferrari strategists catches a nasty case of chickenpox.

Everyone knows Carlos Sainz has the deeper pockets with his sponsors.
But hey, it's also possible they were actually using soap on the track.

Plus, Leclerc is dealing with a damaged front wing.
So, he puts in this incredible drive—only for Scuderia Ferrari to hand him complete junk.
Honestly, I feel like Charles is going to end up with a nasty case of hives at this rate.

Charles Leclerc is clearly the more gifted driver compared to Carlos Sainz. It’s not even a debate.
But if Ferrari keeps backing the Spaniard just because of money and internal politics, they're going to shoot themselves in the foot.

fadedwalker18 said:Charles Leclerc is just more talented than Carlos Sainz. Period. No debate here.

Man, you aren't kidding about being stubborn.

swiftmaker12 said:Even though Charles Leclerc was clearly the faster driver, I just don't get Scuderia Ferrari's strategy.
Sainz let Charles Leclerc through on lap 31, and by lap 39—right when Esteban Ocon triggered the SC—Charles Leclerc had already built a 5-second gap. That’s half a second faster per lap!
And then these absolute idiots don't even bring him in for tires? They just leave him out there grinding on hards... unbelievable.

From what I gathered, the folks at Ferrari were claiming they couldn't pull off a double stack. What a load of garbage. If Charles Leclerc was faster—which he totally was—he would have built up more than enough of a cushion to make a double stack work perfectly without having to sweat those ten laps and chase down target times. Just ridiculous...

Keep on hating if you want, but CARLOS SAINZ IS THE WINNER IN THE UK

VAMOOOOOOOS

I honestly still don't get why people are acting like idiots, thinking Carlos Sainz should be some kind of second-tier driver.

Last year he was clearly outperforming Charles Leclerc, both in terms of total points and podium finishes.

And this year? He’s already ahead on podiums, and we aren't even halfway through the season yet.

Why on earth would he just pass up a chance to take a win? I mean, seriously, why?

Vamoos

darkmarlin16 said:I honestly don't get why anyone would think Carlos Sainz should be relegated to second driver status.

Last year, he actually outperformed Charles Leclerc in both total points and podium finishes.

And looking at this year? He’s already ahead on podiums, and we aren't even halfway through the season yet!

Why on earth would you want him to miss out on a shot at victory? Why would you even consider it?

Vamoos

I have to agree—he shouldn't be treated as a number two driver. If Charles Leclerc wants that top spot, he really needs to earn it on the track.

That being said, it’s pretty obvious that Charlie is operating at a slightly higher level right now, and there's no arguing that. As the season unfolds, things will likely balance out, and Charles Leclerc will probably end up with the edge in the standings.

But hey, let's watch the tone here, shall we?

Anyway... what happened to Alfe's roll hoop? It looks like it didn't quite survive the impact, did it??😲