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True Crime: The Boston Massacre

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Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#1 ·
Boston Massacre is just the latest tragedy hitting the headlines.

Can we even dream about these things actually stopping?
Why does this keep happening?
Is there some kind of fuse—some trigger—behind this nightmare?
Asking "why" might sound like a cheap question, but when you're in shock, you can't help but wonder why.
The answer is pretty simple: look at where we live.
Our legal system is a complete mess.
It’s all corruption and playing favorites.
It's basically survival of the fittest out here.

To promote the launch of our new True Crime section where we'll be diving into stuff like this, I have to point out that this reality shouldn't be ignored by Reddit—it's easily the biggest, most influential, and most active community out there, period.

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This is a test thread for the True Crime sub-forum, discussion (admin)
Christian Myers Christian Myers Active Member
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#2 ·
I honestly don't even know where to start. People are posting all sorts of things, so you have to be careful how you react—but look, violence isn't the answer. It just isn't. Nobody actually wants to live in the Wild West here. Even if there are some losers on Facebook who seem to crave it. And besides, who gets to decide what "justice" looks like? Who decides who deserves a machine gun? That’s just madness—both for the people and the country.
Anthony Nelson3 Anthony Nelson3 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2021
#3 ·
First off, I really want to know what drove him.

It’s pretty obvious this was about trying to right a wrong, especially since the guy ended his own life in the end. Look, the method was desperate and totally insane, but there’s always a reason. There’s always a reaction to something that happened earlier. Something pushed him to do this.

If we actually want to cut down on crimes like this, we have to deal with whatever happened *before* the crime itself. We have to stop that part. He didn't just wake up one day and decide to kill people for no reason.
Chris Myers Chris Myers Member
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joined Apr 2019
#4 ·
A byproduct of today's society and its inherent flaws. It isn't unique to America. Unfortunately, there will be more of this, and I fear we're seeing an increase.
bluemason3 bluemason3 Veteran
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#5 ·
Chris Myers said:It’s just a byproduct of modern society and all its flaws. This isn't unique to America, either. Sadly, we'll probably see more of this, and I fear the frequency is only increasing.

But honestly, when has any society—past or present—been free of stuff like this? What strikes me more is how relatively rare these things actually are. It suggests things are going much better than we care to admit.
Anthony Nelson3 Anthony Nelson3 Newcomer
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#6 ·
bluemason3 said:Seriously, what other sport or league has ever seen anything even remotely like this? It’s wild to think about. Honestly, it blows my mind how rare this actually is in the grand scheme of things. It basically means we’re doing way better than we care to admit!

I'm right there with you on that. But hey, a little excitement doesn't hurt!

Crimes of passion or revenge? Those don't really rattle me. That stuff is just part of being human, right? It's baked in. What actually turns my stomach are crimes driven by pure hatred, greed, or—even worse—just senseless, random violence.

But if a wife takes out her cheating husband in his sleep? I get it. Totally. 😁
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#7 ·
After a tragedy hits, comes the public autopsy.
We get the deep dives into who the victims were and who pulled the trigger.
Everyone gets a character profile.
It’s always the same damn script—everyone was a saint, right? Rest in peace, I guess.

But if everyone was actually kind, loving, and honest like the media claims... then what the hell happened?
Humanity’s fuse is just too short.
How much can we actually tolerate before things snap?

Here’s my take;
it’s just one guy against the system.

Colper just stopped believing the system works.
Just like Zavadlav did.
Both of them decided to take matters into their own hands.

That doesn't fix a broken system. Far from it.
The message was sent loud and clear.
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#8 ·
When these kinds of tragedies hit, you always see some lone wolf trying to play hero.
It’s totally wrong, but honestly, it’s just what you expect from society these days.
If you look at the case of the protégé who walked free, despite being directly involved in pulling off a multi-million dollar heist, you have to ask: Where are you going, USA?

Is this just a textbook example of a failed state? A broken system that can't even fix its own courts to actually serve the people.

We’re just stacking up one crazy move after another—desperate individuals getting chewed up and spat out by the machine.
The whole system is rigged to favor the same old players, but we can't just quit fighting.
It’s obvious to everyone that there's no turning back. We have to keep pushing through this mess to clear a path out of this dungeon inhabited by people who only care about their own pockets.

Isn't it pretty clear that this whole disaster is just the fallout from massive corporate fraud?
Hannah Alvarez2 Hannah Alvarez2 Active Member
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joined Jun 2013
#9 ·
Christian Myers said:I honestly don't even know what to say anymore. People are posting all kinds of wild stuff, so you have to be smart about how you react, but look—violence isn't the answer. Obviously. We aren't trying to turn this country into the Wild West, even if some lowlifes on Facebook seem to be begging for it. And besides, who gets to play judge and jury? Who decides who deserves a machine gun to the face? It’s pure madness from both the people and the government.

The only reason you think it's "madness" is because you've never been backed into a corner where everyone is screwing you over and there's absolutely nowhere to turn for help.
I get the logic, I really do, but I'm just surprised we don't see more of it. If half the things I read about in the news—stuff people endure for years until they slowly lose their minds—happened to me, I wouldn't hesitate for a second to settle the score with a burst from an AR-15.
Chris Myers Chris Myers Member
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#10 ·
Christian Myers said:I guess we don't want the Wild West here.

Maybe you don't want the Wild West coming to you, but the Wild West wants to come to you! 🙂

(and it will happen... American companies are just becoming more and more like everyone else, in that bad way)
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#11 ·
Jack shooting up the Government headquarters with an AK wasn't about those old-school privatisations—he’s just a product of a broken system that was built to rob everyone blind.
He sees the political angle behind it all, too. And that's why he acts the way he does.
He's going extreme just to make sure his point lands.

The Boston Massacre is basically the same kind of thing.
A huge part of this mess is the enforcement laws—written by lobbyists and basically a notary mafia.
They're creating a permanent class of debtors without giving them any way out, and that's exactly what leads to a total disaster down the road.

We all know the system skips right over you if you don't "have connections."
If you aren't plugged into the machine, you're definitely going down.
There's no such thing as a reliable system here. It only works for the chosen few.

We’re living in this era of extreme views because people are so fed up and disillusioned—there's nowhere else to turn to escape the kind of resentment that leads to really dark thoughts.
Lisa Jackson7 Lisa Jackson7 Regular
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joined Oct 2018
#12 ·
Melissa Garcia70 said:Even if Bezukhov shooting an AK at The Administration's headquarters isn't directly linked to the old privatizations, he's still a product of that entire rigged system that paved the way for this massive looting.
He's just looking at the political angle—and acting on it.
Taking it to the extreme just to make a point.

The Boston Massacre was basically the same vibe.
And look, those seizure laws written by some notary mafia lobby? That's a huge part of the problem.
They’re just creating a permanent debtor class without any way out, which is why things are bound to blow up later.

We all know the system bypasses you if you "don't have connections."
If you aren't plugged into the machine, you're finished.
There's no reliable system here. It only works for the chosen ones.

Everyone's stuck in these extreme mindsets because people are so fed up and disillusioned—there's nowhere else to turn to escape the kind of rage that leads to total disaster.

People are finally starting to speak up about how broken everything is...

SEIZURES AND BANKRUPTCIES: "When people lose faith in justice—when they feel it's UNJUST—they pick up weapons"
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#13 ·
Brian Gonzalez24 said:People are finally starting to speak up about how broken this whole system is...

OBJECTIONS AND BANKRUPTCIES: "When people lose faith in the justice system—when they decide it's fundamentally UNJUST—they pick up weapons."

There’s no debating it—that kind of bitterness turns into pure venom.

Looking at what happened later, specifically regarding Koloper—the guy who systematically wiped out everyone involved in his company's Bankruptcy—it's obvious he never even considered fixing things through legal channels.
For him, the legal route was a dead end.
And honestly? People watching these tragedies actually agree with him. They’re even throwing him support now, which is pointless since he’s gone and they’re all dead too.
But there's a darker side to this story. To go from being a totally stable member of society one day to just giving up on life—then immediately pivoting to a mass liquidation along with some other horror stories we don't even know yet—that’s enough to chill anyone to the bone.
But it doesn't scare us regular folks; it scares the people who pretend to serve the public interest.

That "public interest" stuff is exactly what pushed our patience to the absolute breaking point.
And that's what pushed Koloper over the edge.
He gave up because he didn't trust anyone but himself—to the point where the government basically doesn't exist in his eyes.
To him, the state isn't real. It only exists for the people living off it.
Grace Ramos Grace Ramos Member
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joined Jul 2013
#14 ·
It feels like everywhere you look lately, it's just theft and scams, and since guns are so easy to come by, it’s honestly surprising we aren't seeing even more of this kind of chaos.
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#15 ·
Jeremy Brooks87 said:Theft and scams are everywhere you look—and guns aren't exactly hard to find, either. It’s weird we don't see even more of that shit.

Look, if you want to see why things are falling apart, just watch how people here have decided to simply tune out. Everyone’s checked out—they stop caring about their community, they treat elections like a joke, and all they ever talk about is how everything is rigged, corrupt, and bought-and-paid-for. When everyone agrees that nothing happens without a bribe, you’re looking at a massive societal breakdown.

Take the Zavala case, for example...
Isn't it the exact same pattern?
Now, I'm betting Colper saw what happened with Zavala and those mass liquidations, got organized, and carried out his own hellish mission.
It's basically a carbon copy.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#16 ·
Bringing a gun to the White House?
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#17 ·
Larry Walker24 said:what if he brought a gun to Independence Hall?

Obviously...
Buzek... basically gets labeled an assassin against the government.

The real question is—if Buzek had just swapped out his mag after taking down that cop and then marched straight into Independence Hall... we wouldn't be talking about an incident, we'd be talking about a total Boston Massacre.
Grace Ramos Grace Ramos Member
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#18 ·
Melissa Garcia70 said:Take the Zavala case, for instance...
Isn't it the exact same playbook?
Now we’re supposed to believe that Koloper watched what happened with Zavala and those massive liquidations, then sat down, organized himself, and pulled off this absolute disaster.
It's a total carbon copy.

Most rules and agencies only exist on paper. You've got all these bullies, scammers, and the rest of the scum skillfully hiding behind a lack of ethics, pure shame, and the fact that the law and the authorities just refuse to act. They take advantage of everyone's apathy to prey on people.

In general, the people here lost their moral compass a long time ago.
Melissa Garcia70 Melissa Garcia70 MemberOP
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#19 ·
Jeremy Brooks87 said:Rules and agencies mostly just exist on paper—all these bullies, scammers, and other bottom-feeders are experts at hiding behind a total lack of ethics, pure shame, and the fact that the law and the authorities basically do nothing. They lean on people's apathy to get whatever they want.

Honestly, everyone in this country lost their moral compass a long time ago.

Spot on..

We haven't even scratched the surface...
The justice system in this country is rotten to the core.
A cop's making maybe $45,000 a year.
Nothing about this situation looks good.
People just don't trust the system.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#20 ·
Melissa Garcia70 said:People just don't trust the system.

And they've actually trusted the system since 1945? Give me a break.

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