Torecan (tietilperazin)

brightwalker32 said:How on earth was I supposed to know what was being loaded into me by April!? It’s tragic that someone is dealing with cancer, but honestly, that doesn't change anything for me. Under patient rights laws, they actually should have asked if I wanted that injection. If they had just asked, this whole mess wouldn't have happened. Even if I were the healthiest person alive, I still wouldn't want an injection like that without being consulted first. People on this forum are just staying silent. They're just stepping over your pain. It’s no wonder things are falling apart in our hospitals and why the system is screwing us over from every angle when people act like this. And yeah, don't even get me started on why Torecan is pulled from most of the world and why only a handful of countries even use it anymore.

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Look, under patient protection laws, you're the one who sought help. Did you go to the ER just to mess around, or were you actually seeking medical care? There is a formal procedure for refusing treatment. You could have used all that wasted time to study for your exam instead. Of course, people on this forum/subforum are exactly what they are. Report the doctor if you actually have the guts and the evidence. Everyone here has their own struggles. I finished college with visible cognitive impairment myself.

Look, I’m not going to sit here and tell you that you're losing your mind, or that what you're feeling is just depression or laziness.
I went to see a doctor because I was terrified it was something life-threatening, not just because I wanted some quick fix or an injection.
I’ve already sat down and cleared the air with that person. If you want my honest opinion, I blame this whole mess on our broken system and the way things are handled at places like Niagara Falls. I truly wish the entire system would evolve for the better. I dream of the day when that dark Torecan influence vanishes from our country, just like it has disappeared from so many other nations. I wouldn't wish this experience on anyone, ever. When I shared my story, plenty of people told me there's no way he'd ever agree to Torecan again.

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brightwalker32 said:Look, I'm not saying there's something wrong with your head.
I went because I was terrified it was something life-threatening, not just because I wanted an injection.
I already cleared things up with that individual. Honestly, I blame the whole system and Niagara Falls for this mess. I just wish the healthcare system would actually improve. And I really hope that shady Torecan stuff disappears from our country like it has in so many other places. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. When people heard what happened to me, most of them said there's no way they'd ever agree to Torecan.

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Okay, fine, you went to the ER. You were scared for your own skin, and once help was actually provided, suddenly you're complaining that it didn't work. Go ahead, report that doctor to the American Medical Association. They’ll care about everything once your life is actually on the line. I know exactly how all the procedures go—if they didn't want to help, there's a specific protocol for refusing care, so think about that. So what's the point? You went to the emergency room. You asked for help and you got it. Now you're just unhappy with the result. Maybe look at your own part in this.

I wasn't looking for a fight. My goal was simple: either pass this along if there was actually something worth reporting, or just let it go if it wasn't. Since when did we decide that people who panic deserve to be wiped off the face of the earth? It’s happened to everyone at least once, and honestly, it could happen to anyone. In my case, I reported the incident, and we got it sorted out. Case closed. I truly believe people need to stand up more when they encounter these kinds of situations instead of letting the system just steamroll them. We should be supporting one another against the bureaucracy, not acting like wolves to our own kind—that plays right into the system's hands. And look, this isn't just about healthcare; it applies to pretty much any major institution in the country. The system only crushes people as long as they allow it to. When you see how many people are struggling in this country, it’s really no wonder things have turned out the way they have and why all this chaos is happening.

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brightwalker32 said:Under patient rights laws, I really should have been consulted before they gave me that injection. If they had just asked me, this entire situation would have been avoided completely.

Look, if you were actually at the ER and they asked for your consent, would you honestly know everything there is to know about Torecan right then and there—or would you be frantically Googling stuff while the doctor is standing right in front of you? I mean, was it an actual emergency where you couldn't think straight, or were you feeling okay enough to do some deep-dive research online? If that shot had actually made you feel better immediately, would you even be looking up Torecan’s impact on human welfare, or would you just be satisfied thinking it's a perfectly fine medicine?

If you had asked me, I would’ve turned down the injection without even bothering to Google anything, because I wasn't exactly out hunting for a cure for my dizziness.
Honestly, even if I had taken the shot and felt fantastic afterward, I still would have hopped online just to see exactly what they pumped into me. And once I saw terms like extrapyramidal side effects or neuroleptic malignant syndrome? I would have absolutely lost my mind. I’d be shouting, "So this is the 'antipsychotic' you gave me?!" Look, I don't care if an antipsychotic makes you feel better in a couple of hours—it's still an antipsychotic, plain and simple, and I would have been livid.

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brightwalker32 said:Look, I wasn't looking for an injection or whatever. My job was either pass it up the chain if there was an actual issue, or just say "nothing happened" and move on. Are we really talking about wiping people off the face of the earth just because they panicked? It happens to everyone at least once in their life, and honestly, it could happen to anyone. I reported my case, and we cleared it all up. Case closed. I think people need to speak up way more when this kind of stuff comes up instead of letting the system just trample over them. We should be supporting each other against the system, not acting like wolves to one another—that's exactly what the system wants. And this isn't just about healthcare; it applies to pretty much every government institution out there. The system only crushes people as long as they let it.

Since you're such a genius... who exactly did you report this to? Real Madrid? Report it to the Medical Board. If they let you go and then something actually went wrong, who would you even blame? You'd just end up saying, "Oh, she didn't want to help me," or "She sent me home without even checking me." Where does it go from there? You're basically admitting yourself that you had a panic attack. Who's going to rebel for you? Honestly, we should just be thankful we still have a handful of doctors left before they all head overseas, because soon enough, there won't be anyone left to treat us. Then we'll all be in deep trouble.

I filed a report regarding the side effects with Real Madrid, and I also notified the relevant regulatory agency to get everything cleared up. That’s it. I’m done. I feel like I’ve done my part and fulfilled my responsibility. This isn't just some isolated mistake by one individual, either. Let me be perfectly clear: the real culprit here is Niagara Falls for manufacturing this poison, followed by the system itself, and then those mindless sheep who just swallow it whole without a second thought. It’s the same group of sheep that votes for the Republican Party and then spends all their time whining about how much the country is going downhill.
Look, I was overwhelmed—not panicking, mind you—so there's really no reason for anyone to come after me for it. If I hadn't taken that injection, I wouldn't be dealing with any of this. Honestly, if Torecan hadn't been administered, nothing would have happened at all. No one would be to blame because nothing would have changed; I’d just be moving on with my life, living a much better life today than I am now.

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brightwalker32 said:It might be because I've been dealing with mild damage for a while now, but I have to admit these medications are really taking a toll on me. People tell me to stay positive, but honestly, it’s tough to maintain that mindset when you're feeling this way.
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Didn't you mention earlier that you hadn't undergone any testing yet? As in, you hadn't done any medical screenings prior to visiting the ER?
- It seems like finding a truly qualified and serious psychotherapist is becoming an impossible task lately. It’s like trying to find a decent mechanic in a city full of amateurs. He’ll never be the one to tell you that.

brightwalker32 said:How was I supposed to study without any complaints until April? It’s tragic that someone is dealing with cancer, but personally, that doesn't change my situation. Under American patient rights laws, they really should have asked for my consent before giving me that injection. If they had actually consulted me, I never would have agreed to it...

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It’s much like how several unrelated events can unfold at once—whether it's two, three, or even fifteen different things happening simultaneously.
If you have anything else to share... go ahead. The neurological damage is quite evident in the test results. It isn't necessarily related to everything you're throwing into the blender.

Based on the laws regarding emergency medical services... are you absolutely certain that when paramedics arrive, they have to ask if someone actually wants help? And if someone is in bad shape, can they just insist on having a moment to Google their symptoms before deciding how to proceed?

Brenda Alvarez24 said:- didn't you say earlier that you didn't have any test results... like, you hadn't done any scans before hitting the ER?
- not one single qualified or serious psychotherapist is ever going to tell you that.

Look, sometimes two or three—or even fifteen—totally different and unrelated things happen all at once...
( if something *is* actually wrong... but neurological damage is definitely visible on medical scans... ...it doesn't mean it's necessarily linked to everything else you're throwing into this giant mess)

According to US patient rights laws... are you absolutely certain they can't just ask someone arriving at the ER if they actually want help? And yeah, if someone is in a bad state, they can insist on being given some time to Google what they think is happening to them...

She went to the ER because she wasn't feeling well. She didn't have prior test results because the doctor hadn't given her any—the story just doesn't hold up. If it was truly an emergency—fine—panic happens. "I was on the brink of life and death"—no, it's not that she didn't want to Google stuff, she didn't even know her own name, let alone how bad it was. It was extreme. Any kind of neurological damage shows up on a psych test, and then on an EEG.

Brenda Alvarez24 said:- didn't you say earlier that you didn't have any actual test results... like, you hadn't done any real testing before hitting the ER?
- not one single competent or serious psychotherapist is ever going to tell you that.

The thing is, sometimes two or three—or even fifteen—completely different and unrelated things happen all at once...
( if something *is* actually wrong... but neurological damage shows up pretty clearly on scans... ...it doesn't mean it's necessarily tied to every single thing you're throwing into this giant mess)

According to US patient rights laws... are you absolutely certain they just rush you in at the ER and let anyone ask if you actually want help? And yeah, if someone is in bad shape, they can basically demand more time to just Google what they think is happening to them...

There's also paperwork for refusing treatment or anesthesia.

It really comes down to individual history; I already had some minor issues beforehand, but since the injection, things have taken a massive turn for the worse. On top of that, I’m dealing with new symptoms like tachycardia. It all depends on exactly what was administered. When I took antibiotics or standard over-the-counter stuff for pain, fever, or stomach issues, I never had a problem. Not all medications are created equal—they don't all carry the same side effects or risks. This is an antipsychotic delivered via injection, after all. From what I've read, even perfectly healthy people have experienced everything from mild side effects to long-term consequences from this type of treatment.

brightwalker32 said:It seems like everyone on this forum has gone completely silent.
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Please don't spout such nonsense.
Most people hanging out on online forums tend to be a bit eccentric, much like characters you'd find in a quirky indie movie.
And they’re genuinely trying to lend a hand.
You’re still being a bit irrational here... you've fixated on Torecan and some undiagnosed brain affliction, trying to force that narrative to be true.

brightwalker32 said:If I had been asked, I would have turned down the injection without even checking Google. I wasn't exactly out looking for anything to fix my dizziness.
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It seems like you might have cut off mid-sentence! Please let me know what you were going to say, and I'll be happy to help. What's on your mind? Are you there?
You could have just headed down to the courthouse and filed a formal request for exactly what you wanted... then we would have seen if the judge actually granted it.

brightwalker32 said:...
I decided to go because I was worried it might be something serious. Honestly, I blame the system and the situation at Niagara Falls for this accident. I really hope we see some meaningful systemic reforms soon—it would be great if that dark Torecan could finally disappear from our country too.

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Understood.
So, you've reached the conclusion—after getting a doctorate from Dr. Google—that while nothing was truly serious, it was simultaneously as serious as anything could possibly be.
Hey, let’s bring a little reality into this instead of just running wild, because... What do you think? Just wanted to let you know I'm here if you need anything.
By the way, why don't you go ahead and share your results with us? Long ago. It’s all about handling the immediate crisis, then managing whatever follows in its wake.
You know, I'm talking about those diagnostic procedures—brain MRIs, EMGs, lumbar punctures... the kind of stuff you go through when there's a suspicion of something neurological.
It seems we have this tendency to wander aimlessly without much purpose.

Niagara Falls is truly breathtaking.
Go ahead and sue them.
They might just take you on, if they felt like wasting their energy arguing with someone so irrational and unserious.

Look up the sections in the Patient Bill of Rights regarding informed consent, therapeutic procedures, and the right to refuse treatment. I’m not going to sit here and quote them all for you. You’ll catch my drift eventually.
If they had enough time to administer an injection, they certainly had enough time to ask if it was even necessary. But they didn't.
What do you mean "time to Google it"? What are you even talking about? It’s not that I didn't have the time to search online; it's that the injection itself was just that devastating. Aside from the physical damage it caused, I'm left with terrible trauma and this crushing sense of guilt, even though I know deep down this isn't my fault.
I'm done arguing. I've said my piece. Please, dear people, look into your rights ahead of time. Before any medication, study the side effects thoroughly, because sometimes doctors prioritize their own financial interests over your actual health. It turns out visiting a doctor can be far more dangerous than it first appears. Back in 2016 and 2017, I already got burned by antidepressants. After that, I promised myself I would research the side effects of everything anyone prescribed to me. Then, after spending twenty months recovering from an injury caused by fluoxetine, this happened to me out of nowhere simply because I WASN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE PATIENT PROTECTION ACT. Now, I feel so much blame on myself for not learning my patient rights sooner. For not checking what they were actually administering in the ER and why. Honestly, I didn't even realize the system had gone so completely sideways that I actually had to go out and study the law myself. I went there that night innocent and frightened, legally unprepared, having no clue what kind of things they do in those halls. I didn't have much trust in doctors since they blew it a few years prior, but I also never imagined that neurotoxic substances like Torecan would be administered in injections like that. They could have easily called it what it is: an ambush. I mean, is there anything worse you can do to a person than mess with their nervous system? Maybe the doctors themselves aren't even fully aware of how dangerous certain drugs are, but in my opinion, they should thoroughly study the potential consequences before handing them out—ESPECIALLY WHEN DEALING WITH DRUGS THAT HAVE ANTIPSYCHOTIC EFFECTS LIKE TORECAN. Even a bird on a branch knows what antipsychotics are and the fallout they leave behind. I seriously doubt they would ever take that Torecan themselves. They probably think, "Oh, one little injection won't hurt a sheep, it'll help her," but I wouldn't touch it for anything. Well, this "sheep" got absolutely wrecked because of one single injection. And nobody cares about this sheep. But this sheep matters to herself, and this sheep is suffering deeply—and worst of all, her family is suffering too. So, don't be sheep blindly surrendering to the system. Use your head. Don't let anyone violate your rights; speak up if they do. Inform yourself in advance, learn from others' mistakes, consider different perspectives and experiences. Be a *Homo sapiens*, not an *Ovis aries*. Because remember this: once a life is destroyed or lost, no one and nothing can ever give it back to you.
Best wishes to everyone.

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I'm done arguing about this. Seriously. Here’s the real question: what are you supposed to do when you can't get any relief, you end up at the ER, and then you just flat-out refuse the injection or the help they're offering? Not one single person actually answered that part. Look, if you really have nerve damage or whatever, there are tests for that. Everything from a basic EEG to much more advanced stuff. Just let it go. Let the doctors focus on the people who actually need help at the ER instead of wasting everyone else's time. If you don't want their help, fine—just deal with it on your own next time.

Mark Twain put it best...

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What’s the deal with those test results? Why is that?
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In that scenario, I wouldn't have turned down the injection. Honestly, I don't think they should be administering a neurotoxic substance with antipsychotic properties for cases like that.
I’d honestly rather deal with whatever happened to me than have to take this Torecan stuff. It really needs to be pulled from the market here in the States, if not globally. This isn't something meant for human consumption—not even for people who didn't experience side effects after a few doses just because it helped settle their dizziness or nausea. People aren't even aware of the kind of havoc they're wreaking on their systems when they swallow this stuff.

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I don't have my official medical records yet because my primary care physician basically brushed me off after my injury involving AD, claiming it was impossible. Then, after visiting Torecan, she gave me a referral for a neurologist, who just gave me the same old song and dance. They told me it’s all in my head—just depression—and suggested I go out for a run or go swimming, etc., etc. It feels like the healthcare system is expertly designed to just dismiss people like this. But look, I'll get those results eventually! All I have right now is a psych test that indicated some cognitive issues. My psychologist sent me to do that before we actually start psychotherapy.

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Well...
You had your own medical records with you detailing your condition.
So what happened there? Did they just refuse to look at them?
In my experience, doctors always ask about my history and allergies.
I make it a point to carry a summary of my diagnoses and current medications.
That way, even if they were skeptical about my symptoms, I had the proof right there.
Were you carrying yours too?
But, why do you think everything is caused by Torecan?
Is it just because you received a single injection and then noticed a symptom? Could those symptoms actually be the reason you ended up in the ER in the first place?
Where are you receiving treatment? What kind of medication are you currently taking?

Brenda Alvarez24 said:Why aren't the test results out? What's the deal?
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Because there aren't any damn results. Look, maybe they just don't want to upload everything online... but they're handing out corticosteroids—stuff like Medrol or Furosemide—you know, the kind that makes you pee constantly—and probably five or six other meds too. Trust me, if they could skip it, they would. It’d be way better for everyone. I mean, imagine having to choke down five or six different pills every single morning.