Long live the new king!

neonfox65 said:Well, he’s still second again 🤣

Yeah, but if Lewis Hamilton had stuck around at Ferrari—he would've been P1. Right? You're always claiming Lewis Hamilton is a class above Sebastian Vettel

So, if the car Sebastian Vettel is driving to a second-place finish is good enough for him, it should have been plenty for Lewis Hamilton to win

Don't you think?

The Greatest Driver said:Obviously he's Masterfully 🙏
That’s what I’ve been telling you for years—Vettel is just better in almost every way 😁

The only thing he can't beat at a dive bar 🙂
and it's not like he hasn't tried 😢

You're right, he's a total champion here too

"I'm going home...!" 😂 😂 😂

ruggedhawk20 said:Yeah, but if Lewis Hamilton had stayed at Ferrari—he would've been number one. Right? You're always claiming Lewis Hamilton is a class above Sebastian Vettel

That’s just not true. I never said Lewis Hamilton was *that* much better than Vettel. Honestly, no actual expert would say that either. I just think Lewis Hamilton is slightly better than Vettel, and that's where I leave it. Besides, even with Lewis Hamilton, that Ferrari wouldn't have gotten any further than second place...

neonfox65 said:That’s just wrong. I never claimed Lewis Hamilton was leagues ahead of Vettel—no actual expert would say that either. I just think Lewis is slightly better than Vettel, period. But even he wouldn't get past second place with this current Ferrari mess.

So you're basically saying Lewis Hamilton and Vettel are pretty much on the same level?

ruggedhawk20 said:So you're saying Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel are basically on the same level?

Pretty much. Though most experts would still argue that Lewis Hamilton is the most complete driver out there...

neonfox65 said:Not quite. Most experts still argue that Lewis Hamilton is the most complete driver.

Kimi took second in Bahrain. Would Lewis Hamilton have actually won in Bahrain if he was in that car instead of Kimi?

Joe, you’re getting pretty exhausting with all this hating on Lewis Hamilton; you're starting to act just like a Raccoon obsessed with Kimi Räikkönen!

Maybe just head back to the simulator and stay quiet.

ruggedhawk20 said:In Bahrain, Kimi finished in second place. Do you truly believe Lewis Hamilton would have managed to take the win in Bahrain if he had been behind the wheel of that car instead of Kimi?

Of course; he would have likely finished at least 20 seconds ahead of Lewis Hamilton. 🙂

cosmicridge5 said:Joe, you're being such a pain with this constant Lewis Hamilton hate—honestly, you're acting just like a Raccoon obsessed with Kimi!

Go back to the simulator and shut up!

Got slapped with a 7-day ban because I got into it with some moron. So yeah—expect me to be even more active when I'm back.

ruggedhawk20 said:Kimi finished second in Bahrain. Do you think Lewis Hamilton would've taken the win if he was in that car instead of Kimi?

Hard to say... but Lewis Hamilton is definitely a step above Kimi.

Lewis Hamilton, Lewis Hamilton, and Sebastian Vettel are all in that elite tier—the difference between them is basically nothing...

neonfox65 said:How should I know? But Lewis Hamilton is way better than Kimi Räikkönen.

Lewis Hamilton, Lewis Hamilton, and Sebastian Vettel are all in the same league—the gap between them is basically nothing.

If he’s "way better," then Lewis Hamilton would’ve cruised to a win in Bahrain without breaking a sweat.

And since he's only "slightly" better than Vettel—who actually won in Malaysia—Lewis Hamilton would've grabbed that one too.

Everything points to the fact that if Lewis Hamilton had stayed at Ferrari, he would've walked away with two wins in the first four races.

He never even managed two wins in the first four starts while driving for Ferrari.

So yeah, he definitely screwed up by quitting Ferrari.

Right?

ruggedhawk20 said:If he’s really that much better, then Lewis Hamilton would have cruised to victory in Bahrain without any issues.

Look, Vettel was faster than Kimi, but that doesn't mean he beat him in Bahrain. You can't look at it that way—Kimi was running a totally different strategy, which is why he came out ahead of Vettel. Generally speaking, Vettel is just quicker... you can see that now in Barcelona.

So, he basically screwed himself over when he quit Ferrari.

Right?

Nah. Because Ferrari is just going to end up in second place again.

neonfox65 said:So, Vettel is actually better than Kimi, which is why he didn't beat him in Bahrain. You can't look at it that way—Kimi was just on a different strategy in Bahrain, that's why he came out ahead of Vettel. Generally speaking, Vettel is faster, which you can see now in Barcelona.

So what, the better driver doesn't win, just a better strategy?

ruggedhawk20 said:So you're saying it isn't about having the better driver, but just a better strategy?

Look, in Bahrain, Kimi's strategy totally beat Vettel's. If they had played it the same way, Kimi wouldn't have stood a chance—just look at the first three races and now this one in Spain, where he left him in the dust by a full second during qualifying...

neonfox65 said:In Bahrain, Kimi's strategy absolutely crushed Vettel's. If they’d been running the same game plan, Kimi wouldn't have stood a chance—just look at those first three races and now this one in Spain where he left him in the dust by a full second in qualifying.

So what you're saying is Lewis Hamilton was basically driving Kimi's car with Kimi's strategy just to make sure he cruised through Bahrain?

Hey Joe, you’re being a handful. Not sure what you're even trying to prove here—I already told you that both Vettel and Lewis Hamilton are way better than Kimi. And look, Lewis Hamilton left Ferrari because he genuinely thinks he'll find more success somewhere else.

The OP didn't intend for this thread to become a playground for two people to troll and spam about Fernando Alonso and Sebastian Vettel.

neonfox65 said:Man, Joe Biden, you're exhausting.

He’s clinging to Fernando Alonso like a shadow.😁

Maybe Joe Biden should just go paint airplanes since he clearly can't handle the simulator.😁

Either go clean up the kitchen, or I bet my life that unopened jar of mayo is still sitting in the exact same spot 😁 Just admit it’s still there 😁

Joe Biden, if you really want to keep rambling about Fernando Alonso, just move over to the Fernando Alonso thread, you 🙂
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