Support for families dealing with cancer and other serious illnesses (Part II)

To be honest, there are clinical studies out there regarding beta-glucans as an adjuvant therapy—quite a few, actually (I’ve linked the first two I stumbled upon)—so maybe we shouldn't be flat-out forbidding oncology patients from taking them. Look, I agree with what was written, everything makes sense, but in certain specific cases, they probably offer some actual benefits. I've come across several mentions of them helping with bone marrow regeneration and easing up the immunosuppression triggered by radiation and chemo. And don't get me wrong, I'm not browsing sites filled with buzzwords like "detoxification" or "flushing toxins from your system"—honestly, I have a physical allergy to anything claiming to "boost immunity" or "balance levels" of some random chemical element. Ninety percent of the advice regarding that diet can be tossed straight into the trash as pure hokum and snake oil. Eat plenty of fresh fruits and veggies, stay away from processed foods and alcohol, and practice extreme moderation with everything else—that's pretty much the whole game. 🙂

Eric Newman75 said:To be honest, there actually are clinical studies regarding beta-glucans used as an adjuvant therapy—quite a few, actually (I linked the first two I stumbled upon)—so we probably shouldn't be telling oncology patients they can't take them. Look, I agree with what was written, everything holds up, but in certain specific cases, there might actually be some benefits. I've read in several places that they help improve bone marrow regeneration and can lessen the immunosuppression caused by radiation and chemotherapy. And just to be clear, I’m not browsing sites filled with buzzwords like "detoxification" or "flushing toxins from the body"—honestly, I'm allergic to anything claiming to "boost immunity" or "balance levels" of some chemical element. Ninety percent of the advice out there and regarding that diet can easily be tossed aside as pure snake oil and charlatanism. Eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, avoid canned food and alcohol, and practice extreme moderation with everything else—that’s pretty much the whole game. 🙂

Hey everyone, I just want to clear up any confusion for those reading along. That first link you mentioned is for an active clinical study, meaning it's a trial currently in progress; we won't have a definitive conclusion until the study wraps up and all the data is analyzed. The second link is a review article, which means it isn't original research itself, but rather a summary of existing literature. It focuses primarily on laboratory results and concludes that there aren't sufficient results regarding the use of beta-glucans in cancer patients, so no serious conclusions can be drawn from it at this stage.

In short, there aren't any relevant studies yet that demonstrate a clear benefit in treating oncology patients. I do agree, however, that we shouldn't be stopping patients from taking whatever they choose; nobody has the right to gatekeep that. It's their health and their life on the line, so the decision to use dietary supplements is ultimately theirs.

You can find a bit more info on beta-glucan and its potential effects here: https://www.onkologija.net/post/mo%C...C4%8Denju-raka

How do you deal with anger? It’s one of the toughest hurdles, both for the patient and their family.

https://www.oncology.net/post/dealing-with-anger-in-cancer-patients-a-traffic-light-analogy

Hey everyone, has anyone here actually messed around with medicinal mushrooms before?
Specifically looking into Turkey Tail.

...or maybe some other varieties you guys tried while going through chemo?

Take a look at this article; the source is reliable and actually worth reading.

What’s the deal with vaccinations for oncology patients? Should they be getting them, and at the end of the day, are they even allowed to?

https://www.oncology.net/vaccination-for-cancer-patients

Can anyone point me in the right direction? My kid is 16, and they found a tumor in his mediastinum—upper chest area. The first biopsy came back benign since it hasn't hit the lymph nodes, but it’s too large to operate on right now. We did a second biopsy and we're just sitting here waiting for the results. I'm hitting a wall searching online because this specific type is incredibly rare—maybe 5-8% of all tumors, and even rarer in kids. So, if you have any advice at all, please... ANYTHING would help.
P.s. He's being treated by Dr. Bilic from Pediatric Hematology and Oncology and Dr. Luetic from Pediatric Surgery over at Rebro Hospital. They tell me I need to be patient while we wait for the labs... but yeah, patience isn't exactly my strong suit right now.

Oh, right, forgot to mention... It’s about 4x6 inches. He hit all the major veins, leaned right against the heart, and moved up toward the larynx. ������

Susan Watson3 said:Oh, and I forgot to mention... It's about 4x6 inches. He went around major blood vessels, pressed against the heart, and reached all the way up to the larynx ������

While I completely understand why you’re feeling impatient, I also truly believe you wouldn't want any kind of incorrect treatment being applied. It is absolutely vital to wait for those biopsy results so we can see exactly what we're dealing with; that's the only way to decide on the best way to tackle this issue. There is no way that tumor just appeared out of nowhere in a single month, so waiting a few more days isn't going to cause anything dramatic to happen.

crimsoncanyon3 said:I get why you're impatient, I really do. But honestly, nobody wants the wrong treatment. You absolutely have to wait for those biopsy results to see what you're actually dealing with before deciding on a game plan. That tumor didn't just sprout overnight, so waiting a few more days isn't going to change the outcome drastically.

Yeah, I know. I get it. It’s just this constant dread while waiting that’s the worst part...
But fine. Do you happen to know any specific cases or maybe a reliable site where I could dig deeper into this disease? I feel like I've hit a wall with what I've found so far...

Susan Watson3 said:I totally get it; everything makes sense to me. It's just that this constant fear of waiting for results is honestly terrible...
But alright. Do you happen to know of any specific cases, or maybe some connection where I could dig deeper into this illness? I mean, I've only managed to find a little bit so far...

From what I've gathered, they don't even know exactly what kind of illness we're dealing with yet. Based on the location, it could potentially be a thymus tumor (the thymus gland).

crimsoncanyon3 said:From what I can tell, nobody’s quite sure what kind of illness we're actually dealing with yet. Based on where it's sitting, it could be a thymus tumor.

So, I talked to the professor today and managed to calm down a little. We should have the results by the end of the week, then we'll know our next move...
The diagnosis is a tumor in the mediastinum. The first biopsy showed it hasn't spread to the lymph nodes. But the PET scan shows it's wrapped around major blood vessels and pressing against the heart, measuring about 10x15cm... making surgery pretty high-risk.
They did a second biopsy via puncture—the first one was a surgical incision through the chest muscle—along with another PET scan and some more blood work.
Anyway, thanks for the reply. I'm all ears for any advice you guys might have. 👍👍

I need to vent about my son, so here goes....
The third biopsy results are back, and the tumor tested negative for everything they could find...
For the first time, the doctor actually showed me just how massive this thing really is... his entire left lung is smothered by the tumor, major blood vessels are completely wrapped up in it, and it’s leaning right against his heart..... My little Superman is taking this incredibly bravely, but he's the only kid in America dealing with this specific type of tumor. Our specialist, Professor Luetic, says he's doing everything humanly possible.
They've pulled together an impressive team of experts to look after him..
But even with all that, we might end up looking for a lifesaver outside the US...
The hardest part is that I don't even know what this damn tumor is called, which means I have no idea which hospital in the world would actually be equipped to treat it. The only tiny bit of comfort is that it's benign.

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Susan Watson3 said:I feel compelled to share what's happening with my son, so here it is...
The third biopsy results are back, and the tumor tested negative for everything they could throw at it...
For the first time, the doctor actually showed me just how massive this thing really is... the left lung is completely encased by the tumor, major blood vessels are totally wrapped up in it, and it’s pressing right against his heart... My Superman, who is handling all of this with such incredible bravery, is the only child in America dealing with this specific type of tumor. Our dear Professor Luetic says he’s doing everything humanly possible.
He’s pulling together an impressive team of specialists around my boy...
And despite all that, we might end up looking for life-saving treatment outside of the US...
The hardest part is that I don't even know the name of this damn tumor, and I have no idea which hospital in the world would actually be equipped to treat it. My only small comfort is that it's benign.

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It is very possible that your son will undergo oncology treatment, even if it is a benign tumor. For instance, radiation or perhaps a dose of chemo could encourage it to shrink down to a size that makes surgery much more manageable. What’s great is that he is truly in the hands of the best pediatric surgeon in the region, and likely one of the best in all of Europe. You can rest assured they will build the best possible plan for him. They’ve played plenty of high-stakes games before. Just stay brave and take it one day at a time. Patience is key.

I don't get why there's so much misinformation out there about cancer. It's inevitable that cases will rise since the population is aging, right? Plus, it's hitting every age group now, from infants upward.

jadetinker85 said:I don't get why there's so much lying about cancer. Like, isn't it obvious the numbers will go up just because the population is getting older...? Plus, people of all ages get sick, from babies onwards.

Look, we really don't need to turn this into yet another conspiracy theory thread. To "lie," you’d actually have to know the absolute truth and then actively hide it. But the reality? The truth is we barely know anything about cancer. Sure, age is one factor—but so are a million other things, everything from smoking and drinking to genetic predispositions and environmental stuff. That's common knowledge; nobody is out here lying to anyone about that. If anything, it's the opposite—we're constantly seeing new breakthroughs and research coming out regarding oncological diseases. It's heartbreaking that kids get cancer too, but adults still make up the vast majority of those at risk, accounting for roughly 98 percent of all cases.

Donna Reyes11 said:Took Mom to the hospital on Wednesday. After they got her on an IV and pumped her full of meds, she perked up for a second—just a tiny flash of life, though. Then Thursday rolls around, she eats breakfast at the hospital, and just falls asleep... forever. Her heart finally gave out Saturday morning.
Honestly, I’m surprisingly calm. I’m actually grateful for COVID-19 because it gave us this chance to be together almost constantly for two months... Under normal circumstances, you could never afford this much time with her. Just grabbing coffee every day, having breakfast, watching *Married at First Sight* together during lunch and dinner... most of our time was spent just being home. Even the kid wasn't going to school; he was staying home with Grandma, doing homework and playing chess.
I said my goodbyes a week ago. I looked her right in the eye, told her everything I needed to say, and heard everything I needed to hear. Finally, I just gave her peace so she could find some herself and leave us alone.
In the end, she didn't even feel any pain. Her body just couldn't take it anymore.
Safe travels, Mom. Please check in whenever you can just so we know you're being careful!

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Is anyone else out there dealing with a cancer diagnosis where they can't even find the primary site?
After months of constant back-and-forth and endless waiting, the doctors finally made their call. They've officially defined Dad's diagnosis and he’s starting chemotherapy.
He’s already lost so much weight, and now he’s dealt with a pulmonary embolism on top of everything else. Honestly, I am absolutely livid. They dragged their feet way too long on starting treatment just because they kept waiting around for biopsy results. It's infuriating.
I feel completely helpless. I honestly don't know if there's anything else I can even do. Should I be looking for a second opinion somewhere other than our local hospital? Everywhere I've called privately, they just shut me down. They told me straight up that they don't treat these kinds of tumors when there isn't a specific target to go after. It's infuriating.
On top of dealing with my father's passing, everyone around me is constantly attacking me, acting like they’d definitely be doing way more than I am. Honestly, I'm just so heartbroken, and I'm even starting to believe them—that maybe I really am not doing enough for him.

My dad went through something similar, but he turned his back on every single treatment offered, so our experience isn't going to help anyone here.

Eric Newman75 said:We really shouldn't turn this into just another conspiracy theory thread. To claim there's a cover-up, you have to assume someone actually knows the whole truth and is actively hiding it. But the reality is that we still have so much to learn about cancer. Age is definitely one major factor, along with plenty of others—things like smoking, alcohol consumption, genetic predispositions, and environmental exposures. That’s common knowledge; nobody is lying to us about those links. In fact, it's quite the opposite: we are constantly seeing new breakthroughs and insights regarding oncological diseases being published. While it is heartbreaking that children can get sick, adults still make up the vast majority of the affected population, accounting for roughly 98 percent of all cases.

I agree; diet is certainly one of the most significant risk factors in cancer development.
That said, the reality is that because of lifestyle choices, the age at diagnosis is gradually trending lower, and we are seeing an increasing number of younger patients. Of course, there's also the element of improved diagnostics at play—we're catching illnesses in younger people now that might have gone undetected in previous generations. So, some of what looks like a change in trends might just be better detection rather than a fundamental shift in how often the disease occurs.
When you look at the big picture, young people still represent a very small fraction of total cases, and the fact that the disease occasionally appears in children and very young adults isn't a new phenomenon—it's always been part of the landscape.

My son had surgery today, performed by Anko Antabak. They basically had to open his chest; they couldn't get the whole thing out, but they managed to shrink the tumor. Now we're just waiting on the tissue samples to come back from testing...

crimsoncanyon3 said:I agree. Getting good sleep is easily one of the biggest factors when it comes to cancer risk.
The reality is that lifestyle choices are dragging down diagnoses, which explains why we're seeing more young patients lately. Then again, better diagnostics play a role too—we're catching things in younger people now that probably would've slipped under the radar back in the day. It makes the data look different even if the actual situation hasn't changed all that much.
When you look at the numbers, young people make up a tiny fraction of all cases. We've seen this stuff pop up in kids and young adults before—it’s definitely not anything new.

When I asked my professor how my son's tumor might have started, he told me it’s possible it actually began when he was just a baby or a toddler. Apparently, it happens during cell division—cells just decide to turn into cancer. He thinks we're dealing with connective tissue cells this time. He also mentioned that if my son had dealt with something like pneumonia earlier on, an X-ray might have caught it sooner.