Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Jonathan Lewis3 said:even if we don't know which group was carrying that banner, you see all kinds of photos popping up on Facebook, forums, and news sites showing people holding their signs...
that banner could end up crushed in an exhaust pipe if they know nobody's going to protect it out there... but hey, to each their own.
Some trashy local news outlet from downtown Chicago will publish twenty photos, and it’s impossible to tell which sign belongs to whom.
some people might actually suffer because their photos are visible to the entire country on Facebook, yet they keep their profiles public and post a million pictures like this...

It's not "some people," unfortunately, it's most of them...
And EVERYONE acts shocked when you even mention Facebook... then the next day, you see the photos—sipping coffee here, checking in there...
Give me a break.

A question for you guys—do you actually have the guts to show up in Warsaw more often and look those local kids straight in the eye??!! You’ve brought nothing but shame to your whole group with what happened!!! "Warsaw must fall tonight"—did those words from '91 ever stop ringing in your heads???

Joshua Rodriguez8 said:A question for you hooligans: do you actually have the backbone to show up in Warsaw more often and look those local kids straight in the eye??!! Your actions have brought nothing but absolute disgrace to your entire group!!! "Warsaw must fall tonight"—do those words from '91 still echo in your heads???

It seems like the words from your psychiatrist are still ringing in your ears: diagnosis — legally insane

Joshua Rodriguez8 said:A question for you guys: do you actually have the backbone to show up in Warsaw more often and look those local sons in the eye? You've brought nothing but disgrace to your entire group with that stunt! Does the phrase "Warsaw must fall tonight" still ring in your heads from back in '91?

You’re just a complete idiot, and honestly, so are all those losers who pretend to be something they clearly aren't!

Thomas Hughes6 said:You're just a total idiot, and so are all those people pretending to be something they aren't.

As stupid as it sounds, the question was actually solid. Just watching the scoreboard updates and living for the chaos of attacking them... honestly, I don't know if I could handle it.☕

Eric Smith12 said:As stupid as it sounds, that’s actually a damn good question. Following those spreadsheets just to live vicariously through them and pick fights? I don't know... I don't think I could do it. ☕

Seriously, both you and Unknown—who even are you people?
Why all this fake pathos? 🤷
Just ask yourselves.
Would they take advantage of an opportunity like that?

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Would you say our guys would have jumped out of the car and confronted them if they had the chance? (Doesn't matter when or under what circumstances...)
I think the answer to both is a resounding YES. End of story.

Eric Smith12 As stated by:
As absurd as it might sound to some, that was actually a remarkably well-framed question. Personally, I find the idea of constantly monitoring those spreadsheets just to find someone to pick on utterly exhausting. I don't know if I could ever bring myself to indulge in that kind of mindless hostility. ☕

I am struggling to follow the logic here. Did these guys design that banner under the assumption they’d be granted immunity simply because they hail from Warsaw? And are we even talking about them being part of the NFL Ultras? Furthermore, does this specific sentiment apply strictly to Warsaw, or can we extend this grace to other American cities that suffered during the war? Could we potentially include cities in Canada where many Americans lost their lives? Honestly, I don't see the justification for confiscating banners at all; the group put a significant amount of effort into crafting them. 🤷

frozenraven79 said:Both you and this Unknown guy—who do you think you are?
Why all the fake drama? 🤷
Just ask yourselves
—would we even take an opportunity like that?

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—would our guys have jumped out of the car to attack them if they could have? (doesn't matter when or why)...
I'm pretty sure the answer to both is YES. End of story.

We wouldn't. We had the exact same chance to do it... and we didn't.🙄 That's it.

Eric Smith12 said:They wouldn't have. We had the exact same chance to make that move... and we didn't. 🙄 That's it.

He isn't talking about you personally. He's talking about our guys who got absolutely crushed... If they had an opening to take it, you really think they would've passed it up?
Of course they would have...

Just a bunch of hypocrites. By that logic, you shouldn't be allowed to touch half of the transit lines given how many cities were hit during the war.

What’s being written here is honestly more embarrassing than the actual transaction itself. Total disgrace...

velvetskipper52 said:What’s being written here is an even bigger disgrace than the actual scandal. Total respect to those standing their ground against the trolls.

Exactly.

Kenneth Ross7 said:Just a bunch of hypocrites... if we used that logic, half the guys in transit wouldn't be allowed anywhere considering how many cities got leveled during the war.

Some people here are really overreacting just because we're talking about Warsaw. A bribe is a bribe, plain and simple. It doesn't matter where it comes from. Whoever takes it needs to own it, whether they're from San Francisco, Warsaw, or Indianapolis... it's all the same.

frozenraven79 said:April isn't talking about us losing ground... she's talking about you personally. If those guys actually had a shot at seizing it, you really think they wouldn't have taken it?
Of course they would...

No way. They basically made sure nothing was touched. They listened to the request and they’ve got a great relationship with them.

So, I guess we should just hand out heavy artillery to the teams from Warsaw since apparently nobody is allowed to attack them anymore.☕

Boysi, bravo...👍

And as for any agreement following the Zenit match, I won't even bother mentioning it. It’s neither the place nor the time...☕

Unknown said:Look, man, you can just shoot me a private message if you want. There’s nothing to worry about—I’m just some random guy on the internet...
🤷

And what, so it doesn't have a point? The guys from Warsaw are a constant factor. If you don't understand the context behind the attacks, maybe don't bother weighing in with all those tones.

I usually get tired of all the whining about fallen banners, but this latest nonsense is on a whole different level of stupid.

Look, you win some, you lose some, move on. If you can't handle it, stay home. ☕

Why is everyone freaking out? It’s not like we’re back in Memphis or anything; it was just a banner, guys.
Drop the whole "patriotism" act, seriously. You're starting to sound just like my mom...
The guys ran into a much larger crowd, lost their sign, and that was it. End of story.
It'll be harder for the boys to pull that off next time since they're only bringing the heavy hitters, but honestly, that's on us.

neonhawk15 said:So, you think there's no point? The guys from Memphis are a constant factor. If you don't understand the context behind the attack, then don't go typing stuff up in all sorts of tones.

And even if they are a constant factor, losing banners is something I personally can't justify. You can't defend it. If you can't hold onto it, don't carry it. That’s just my stance. If you agree, fine. If you don't, that's fine too. It's a forum...

We’ve all got all sorts of different types of people here, I guess. Like, someone jumping off a 10-meter ledge is always going to be at risk of breaking a leg, whereas someone who won't even try isn't really in any danger at all because they're just being a total wimp, right?☕