Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Well, it’s all over once the chaos kicks in... The Boys decided to go after our guys, and look, I get it... That’s just how fan culture works. Though, honestly, those Memphis locals actually have a pretty solid relationship with the Boys from Memphis... I’ve personally asked them a few times about targeting us, and they always told me they weren't interested in that kind of drama—that in Memphis, everyone stays on the same page. They could have easily pointed those Boys in our direction, but they didn't. We aren't going to sit here and cry about it, but for the hundredth time, we just can't seem to stick to an agreement, much like the broken promises we saw following the Zenith game.

jademarlin54 said:We’re all different types of people. Someone jumping off a ten-foot ledge is always going to risk breaking a leg. Meanwhile, someone who stays on the ground isn't in any danger at all because they're just playing it safe.☕

That's one way to look at it. But when you lose a banner, it's not some minor mistake or a little slip-up. It's an insult to the Rangers. There is a massive difference between being reckless and being responsible to everyone who considers those Rangers a sacred part of their lives.

Kimberly Robinson17 said:It says that on paper—but when you lose a banner, it’s not just some minor mishap where things get messy; it means the Rangers got broken up. Those are two different things. There’s also the matter of responsibility toward everyone who views the Rangers as sacred.

Hold on a second—by that logic, would only groups with at least 50 regular members be allowed to carry banners? How many banners would they even have left? Just one striking flag?

They were jumped by a larger, better-prepared group. The guys stood their ground, fought, and lost the banner in the scuffle. Why should they be crucified for that? Please—banners have been dropped before, even by much stronger crews.

If timing played a role, sure, but it is what it is. Heaven forbid someone from their side gets a bright idea to seek revenge this Friday. If that actually happens, maybe we can all just meet up on the field and collectively pull a mass suicide because we’re trash and deserve nothing else.

Keith Brown80 said:Hold on just a second. So what you're saying is only groups with at least 50 regular members would be allowed to carry banners? How many flags would they even have then? Just one big striker banner? That’s ridiculous.

Just like most groups in the US.😁

Kimberly Robinson17 said:it’s all well and good on paper, but once you lose a banner, it isn’t just about some minor mishap involving a spilled drink anymore; it’s about smashing the spirit of the Rangers, and there's a massive difference between making a mistake and failing in your responsibility toward everyone who treats those Rangers like sacred ground.

Exactly. Still nothing to show for it.

The biggest disgrace facing any fan movement today is this obsession with Facebook and the internet—all that posing and taking photos after an away game, constantly snapping pictures of individuals or small groups. Who is this actually for? What’s the point of all that vanity? 🤷

And then you have people running these wide-open profiles on Facebook where the opposition and basically anyone else can see everything. Seriously, folks, is that really how we want to play it? 🤷

So please, go ahead and try to tell me that fans aren't hypocrites. 🤣

I mean, honestly, if the cops actually decide to shut a scene down, they’ll have it done in ten minutes flat.

But no, apparently if it didn't get posted on Facebook, it never even happened. 😍

boldhound8 said:Just like most groups in the US😁

And it isn't just in the US 😁

Keith Brown80 said:And it’s not just happening here in the US😁

Look, rule number one: if you aren't ready to lose, don't even show up.😁

Kimberly Robinson17 said:And what if they’re a constant? Personally, there's no excuse for losing a banner. You can't defend it, so don't carry it. That's just my take on it. If you agree, fine. If you don't, fine too. It's a forum...

So, if you're from the local chapter and you aren't made up of a cohesive "crew," what happens then? They shouldn't carry the main banner? Give me a break.

Carrying a banner is a massive responsibility, but it's also a huge gamble. I'm not sure what those guys were supposed to do. They went out with the numbers they had, and they got jumped by—as I mentioned before—a larger, armed rival group. They tried to hold their own, but... well, it happened. That's just the kind of risk you can't somehow cancel out. But you seem to be focusing on the wrong thing entirely, because that crew earned the right to carry that banner. They just had bad luck. That’s how it goes with groups whose sub-chapters handle the banners. The real issue here isn't this specific mess, which honestly happens to any group every few years once they start carrying more than just a basic flag; the real issue is that we'll probably end up with some random scrap of cloth from some idiot that nobody will care about anyway, unless someone tries to snatch it during a game at the Rose Bowl.

It's easy for me to talk about the Memphis guys. I'm certain they'll come out of this stronger. Moralizing about them after what they went through is just lying to yourself. ☕

So, you finally figured it out? Or are we going to keep chewing through more pages of this nonsense? Let's just play pretend and act like we're all on the same side this Friday, get through without making a scene, and then go right back to square one—just another group looking for another group...

Things just went south completely out of nowhere. It was basically just a mix of bad luck and the wrong timing. Honestly, I think it’s high time you guys started cracking down on the printers and the liars within your own ranks... if they claim they stopped fighting and start making excuses about weapons being pulled, they belong right in that group. You know, those lowlife bottom-feeders...
But then, of course, the first group of Rangers jumps in to congratulate them and says "respect"... honestly, the whole thing is just a total circus.

steeltrucker said:So, have you guys finally reached a conclusion? Or are we going to spend another few pages debating this? We’ll just pretend to be united on Friday, hope everything goes smoothly without any incidents, and then go right back to square one—everyone looking for their own little cliques again...

What do you mean by "fake unity"????
When the national team is out there and we're all in the stands together, we don't necessarily need to hang out or even say hi to everyone, but we can't have people acting out...
After the game, things can go back to normal... if someone can't handle that, well, honestly, they shouldn't bother showing up...

feraldrifter19 said:It was just an unplanned mess. Honestly, just bad luck and timing. I think it’s high time you guys started sanctioning the liars and shills in your own ranks... if they claim they stopped fighting or pretend there were weapons involved when there weren't, they belong in that group. Basically, those types of snakes...
But then, the first group of Rangers congratulates them and says "respect"... hehe, what a joke.

Maybe if you stopped attacking everyone in the thread, things would actually stay civil.

Huge respect to the Memphis crowd for keeping it chill and staying quiet. There, is that what everyone wanted?
As for those guys acting like they’re some kind of heroes... man, what can I even say? The absolute worst part is watching people swallow their excuses whole. Everyone knows the truth—they're just spinning tales to justify losing their pride over nothing. It's like that old saying, "I didn't just find this lying in the street." Honestly, you pick up certain mindsets whether you're out on the pavement or hanging at the stadium. Anyway, cheers to all the grown-ups out there who aren't buying into these childish fairy tales.

You’ve got a point there, honestly. I don't even know why I'm getting myself all worked up over this... my bad to everyone reading along who had to deal with my venting.

feraldrifter19 said:props to the folks in Memphis for staying loud

that says it all..SO MUCH!!

It’s transparent because they wear it; if they didn't, there wouldn't be an issue. There are really only two ways this plays out. Either they keep wearing the transparent gear to preserve that specific fan tradition—even if it means risking more heat—or they follow the lead of all those other "smart" groups around the world, including every other group here in the States, by just sticking to solid colors. That way, they won't face any more crackdowns and can finally get some sleep at night.

Charles Torres12 said:It’s over once things go south... The Boys decided to come for our guys, and fine... that's just how fan rivalry works. Though, honestly, those folks from Buffalo actually get along great with the Boys out in that Small town in the US... I’ve asked them about attacking the same group a few times, and they always said they weren't interested and that everyone stays chill together in Buffalo...... They could've easily set those Boys on us too, but whatever... Not gonna cry about it now, but this isn't the first time we've been burned by broken agreements, even after everything happened with Zenith...

What else are they gonna do besides hang out?🙂 I know a couple of people from the local news, and hearing their stories about how often they end up in unplanned brawls with the BRBs—where both sides usually have to scramble just to survive—is wild. It's one of those cities where you can't even step out at night without running into some gang member or a fanatic, and you can't trust the local judge to be anything but biased. When it comes to dealing with the real threats, I'd take any rival fan or total psycho over them any day!
Buffalo is mostly blue, but there are hardly any Boys around. Those Buffalo idiots already filled up a whole bus headed for Montpelier☕

steeltrucker said:So, have we actually reached a conclusion here? Or are we just going to spend more time flipping through pages? We play-act this fake unity on Friday, ensure everything goes off without a hitch, and then—once again—we're right back at square one, everyone looking for someone else to lead...

Could you clarify this for me, please,

so the idea is they should be fighting both at the national level and with their clubs—or should they just stop fighting altogether, regardless of whether it's for the national team or their club?😕

What’s the point of those banners anyway? What kind of ego boost does someone get from having their city's name plastered on a fence? As if being part of the Chicago Blackhawks fans wasn't enough already.
The other thing is how everyone here acts like an expert, preaching about ethics when most of them have made—and will continue to make—the exact same mistakes. It’s always something; one year it's Buffalo, then suddenly we're all out to attack people from Buffalo. Honestly, those commenters should just take a long walk off a short pier. I’m not trying to defend anyone, but this self-righteousness from certain fan groups really gets under my skin. Every single year it’s the same old story, whether it’s Buffalo, Savannah, or whatever else, and yet everyone on this forum still thinks they're some kind of moral authority.😁.

Keith Brown80 said:Could you please clarify this for me?

So, what's the move here? Should players be throwing down both at the club level and on the national team, or should they just stay out of it entirely—both for their clubs and for the national squad? 😕

He made a good point. If you give it a little thought, you'll probably see what he means.