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Kimberly Robinson17 Kimberly Robinson17 Member
40 messages
joined Sep 2011
#1181 ·
Douglas Brown68 said:I'm with you. We just need to shout "MAMIĆ IS A FRAUD" at the top of our lungs. As for flares, the Black Knights have us covered.
We’ve got banners and a crowd of 7,000 people. Even those guys at Burger King couldn't match that energy. 😁

But that's really all there is to it. 🙂

Why are we even giving that ego-tripper any attention?🤷
cosmicridge6 cosmicridge6 Active Member
113 messages
joined Oct 2012
#1182 ·
Kimberly Robinson17 said:Why even give that ego tripper the time of day?🤷

Why should we even give that ego-driven clown any attention? He’s basically the root cause of all the issues plaguing our supporter culture here in America, which eventually poisons the entire landscape of American soccer. But really, why bother wasting a single second on him? 🙂
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2013
#1183 ·
ruggedowl13 said:Tomorrow’s gonna be a mess... I heard Jerry Jones, John Doe, and Pelé all flew out to UEFA on their own dime just to "clear things up."
Given how they spin things, they aren't actually worried about BBB—they're looking at the bigger picture. Since hooligans are the scapegoat for American soccer, I bet they try to pin this crackdown on us and the Armada just to prove their point.
Stay sharp tomorrow!
We Hajduk above all...

Spot on.

The American scene was picked as the test case for this UEFA playbook to wreck football, a tactic they'll roll out globally. We were the first targets in our own country, but now you guys and everyone else are next on the list.

UEFA has a clean slate here because the whole game is run by criminals who’d do anything to wipe out the only organized opposition they have. In any halfway decent country, soccer officials and the federation wouldn't let them dismantle an entire fan movement like this.

But listen, people, this has been going on since 2003 when the USSF specifically drafted that Fan Law. Everyone laughed at me back then when I said the soccer mafia was pulling the strings and that it was the start of massive trouble for American fans.

Keep your wits about you today. And watch out for provocations from the cops.
Alexander Thomas4 Alexander Thomas4 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2013
#1184 ·
Arguing against the Fan Law versus debating specific bans is like trying to kick a soccer ball through a brick wall.
If we were facing Liverpool FC instead of Rijeka, we’d actually need to step up during those final fifteen minutes, yet here you all are, obsessing over rules meant for a mere fifty people.
It’s laughable.
I suppose I won't be shouting against Jerry Jones today—after all, we're the ones who have completely collapsed, right?
In a crowd of 30,000, 29,900 of you will likely be screaming at Jerry Jones out of pure spite rather than showing any actual support for the BBB.
People act like children, and the Black Knights have never picked a worse moment to abandon the squad on the pitch.
Go ahead then, you "elite" ultras, show us what you've got.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2013
#1185 ·
Alexander Thomas4 said:So I won't yell at Jerry Jones today? Guess we're just a total collapse, huh?

Look, you aren't screaming at Jerry Jones for our sake, you're doing it for yours. 🙄

You think you didn't end up under UEFA's microscope by pure accident?
casualsailor55 casualsailor55 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2021
#1186 ·
Where on earth do you people get off putting the Black Knights ahead of the club itself?! Seriously? Are we just going to ignore everyone sitting in the east and west stands? It’s funny because, financially speaking, the club actually gains way more from them than from the crew up north. It makes it look like the Black Knights are the only ones who actually give a damn about Liverpool FC...
If you want to prove yourselves, go out on the streets! We're all playing it close to the vest there anyway (those in the know 😉 will understand what I mean). Who actually gives a crap about paper scraps, little flags, or flares? What else is there left to prove? The true strength of a group is measured by the quality of the atmosphere they create and, let's be real, how they hold their own in a street fight or something similar.
The Black Knights have worked incredibly hard to earn the respect of people all along the Mediterranean Coast, and honestly, I don't think it's worth just throwing all that effort down the drain...
And then there's that comment about Jerry Jones—most people would probably sing along just out of pure spite for him, which really just shows that our collective fan consciousness is basically non-existent.
Casey Palmer10 Casey Palmer10 Member
20 messages
joined Apr 2013
#1187 ·
@casualsailor55/">@@casualsailor55
It’s pretty obvious you haven't got a clue how things have been going lately, but hey, it's never too late to get up to speed, right?
Alexander Thomas4 Alexander Thomas4 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Aug 2013
#1188 ·
Jesse Campbell said:You aren't shouting against Jerry Jones for our sake; you're doing it for your own. 🙄

Or do you honestly believe you haven't been under UEFA's microscope this entire time?

When I'm watching Liverpool FC during those final 90 minutes, my goal is to give maximum support to the guys on the pitch, not to scream at Jerry Jones and his crew—there’s just no logic in that, and it won't change anything.
If you expect the Black Knights to fix what you and your squad can't handle, that sounds like a personal issue of yours.
The local stadium and the Russian influence are centered in Washington, D.C., so why don't you people deal with that? You're the ones standing on the front lines for the capital and for America, right?
Just so we're clear when you reply: I am a supporter of Liverpool FC, not a member of the Black Knights.
Jerry Jones is a much smaller concern to me than he is to you.
Real Madrid and the national team don't interest me; I only care about our Liverpool FC, and there is still so much struggle surrounding them that Jerry Jones is irrelevant to me. Once Liverpool FC gets back on its feet in a few years through the strength of the Black Knights and the fans, the issues you can't solve will resolve themselves.
But first, Liverpool FC needs to recover after twenty years of corrupt management.
Right now, the problems within the USSF and the current leadership are far more pressing to me than Jerry Jones.
Jonathan Lewis3 Jonathan Lewis3 Active Member
183 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1189 ·
I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights are always going to be the heart and soul of Liverpool FC.
Steven Hayes Steven Hayes Member
37 messages
joined Jul 2013
#1190 ·
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights are always out there fronting for Liverpool FC.

🙂
Jonathan Lewis3 Jonathan Lewis3 Active Member
183 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1191 ·
I’m not even kidding when I say I don't think you give a single damn about this 😉
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2013
#1192 ·
As far as I'm concerned, Liverpool FC is toast.
Ryan Chavez3 Ryan Chavez3 Newcomer
1 message
joined Oct 2012
#1193 ·
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't think for a second that you actually care about any of this.😉

Besides, it really doesn't matter whether someone puts Liverpool FC above all else or if they prioritize the Black Knights. You can't have one without the other, really. What matters is who thinks they have a say in things when they've barely even hit adulthood, and the real question is where they'll end up ten years from now... whether they'll drift off into some other niche subculture or wake up every single morning still clinging to the exact same mindset. And that's just the reality of Liverpool FC 0-24.😉
Carol Jones77 Carol Jones77 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2022
#1194 ·
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights always show up for Liverpool FC.

That’s actually the real issue. They'll keep you around for a few years just to use you, then they'll dump you once you finally realize how the game is rigged.🙂
Brian Newman38 Brian Newman38 Member
26 messages
joined Jan 2014
#1195 ·
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights come before Liverpool FC.

The Black Knights only exist because Liverpool FC exists, so please, keep that in mind at all times.

If Liverpool FC were to vanish tomorrow, what on earth would you or the entire Black Knights group actually do with your lives... follow volleyball, join the Hell's Angels, or just become cattle ranchers?
jademarlin54 jademarlin54 Active Member
131 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1196 ·
Jonathan Lewis3 said:I don't know about you guys, but for me, the Black Knights always come before Liverpool FC.

Look, kid, I've known plenty of these folks, and I mean it, I really have. People talk about how the Black Knights are everything, but right now? Neither the group nor the club is even at the top of the food chain. So, if you ask me, it just goes to show they were never truly number one to begin with—not the fans, not the team. They seem more like fair-weather types to me, you know? Like people who only show up when they hear the stadium is going to be packed. Honestly, those kinds of people... they don't really matter much in the long run.
Jonathan Gonzalez3 Jonathan Gonzalez3 Member
36 messages
joined Aug 2012
#1197 ·
Alexander Thomas4 said:once Liverpool FC finally gets its act together in two or three years—fully backed by the Black Knights and the rest of the fans—all those issues you guys are whining about will just disappear.
But first, we actually have to fix the club after spending twenty years dealing with nothing but crooked management.
Right now, I've got bigger fish to fry than the USSF or Jerry Jones; I'm more worried about Alfirevic and Reic.

Do you honestly believe they’re going to let Liverpool FC stand on its own two feet? Sometimes you really need to look at the bigger picture instead of just staring at what's right in front of you...
Paul Young5 Paul Young5 Member
37 messages
joined Aug 2013
#1198 ·
Brian Newman38 said:The Black Knights only exist because Liverpool FC exists— you should probably keep that in mind.

If Liverpool FC vanished tomorrow, what would you or the rest of the Black Knights even do with your lives... follow volleyball, join some Hell's Angels chapter, maybe become cattle ranchers?

And I guess, what would Liverpool FC be without the Black Knights? Just some random local club?🤷
Soccer exists for the fans, and the fans are there for soccer—it’s this symbiosis thing, pretty beautiful when you think about it... one doesn't work without the other.
jademarlin54 jademarlin54 Active Member
131 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1199 ·
Jonathan Gonzalez3 said:Do you seriously think they’re just going to let Liverpool FC finally get back on their feet? I mean, sometimes you really have to look at the bigger picture beyond your own little bubble...

I guess anyone who thinks Jerry Jones is only a problem for Real Madrid is seriously delusional. Like, honestly, as long as he's in the game, he's never gonna let any other club take the trophy. And it's not even because he loves Real Madrid, per se... it's just about his wallet. It's all about player trading—first through the Champions League, then through the national team, which just drives those prices up ten times over. Of course, Liverpool FC needs to sort out their own mess first, and hey, they seem to be headed in the right direction, I suppose. But even if I'm convinced that Liverpool FC is sitting on a 100 million dollar surplus right now and has a squad that's actually better than Real Madrid's, they still wouldn't win the title. Not while that whole circle of people surrounding Jerry Jones is running the show. They won't allow it, for the exact reasons I mentioned.
Brian Newman38 Brian Newman38 Member
26 messages
joined Jan 2014
#1200 ·
Paul Young5 said:I mean, what would the Kansas City Chiefs even be without the Raiders? Would they just turn into some minor league outfit?🤷
Football exists for the fans, and the fans are here for the football; it is a beautiful symbiosis at its very core... one cannot exist without the other....

The only logical response I can offer is that if the Kansas City Chiefs were to vanish, the Raiders would undoubtedly cease to exist as well. Do you honestly believe those fans would simply migrate over to support an Atlantic Ocean franchise or General Electric instead???
Absolutely not!

But tell me, are you truly so certain that the Kansas City Chiefs would disappear if the Raiders were gone?
Does the legacy of this club only endure because of the Raiders?

In my view, even if the Raiders were to dissolve, the Kansas City Chiefs would continue to exist. There are far too many people who are deeply devoted to this club, and it is quite arrogant to claim that the team wouldn't exist without the Raiders.

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